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Our insane president's harebrained tariff scheme is ILLEGAL
By Donna
February 2, 2025 7:48 am
Category: Crime
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Blatantly.
If it's still implemented somehow, when MAGAs themselves see inflation skyrocket, they're going to be the first ones who call for Trump's head, because they already tend to be economically disadvantaged, and they're the ones who will feel personally betrayed by him.
I think Trump thinks that if he can break Canada economically, he can conquer it and make it the US's 51st state. I really think that's the plan. He's trying to out-Putin Putin.
If course this is NOT who we are.
On top of that, our un-elected shadow insane president, Elon Musk, has taken over the US Treasury payment system and now has access to all of our personal Social Security and Medicare info. Isn't that wonderful?
We are at war... with Trump and his gangsters. Literally EVERYTHING should be on the table now, before it's too late and he sends us into another Great Depression. We still have time now to pull the trigger.
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Comments on "Our insane president's harebrained tariff scheme is ILLEGAL":
by Indy! on February 2, 2025 10:23 am
While I would love to believe the MAGAts find their balls wherever they may be hiding in that crepe paper-thin skin that someone keeps all that blubber of theirs together - I would not bet on it. We have our own test cases right here on the board... Brown Shorts still won't even admit he voted for the orange skidmark and OD is afraid to show his face because his guns are useless on this board.
And btw, while we're on the issue of tariffs - remind me who it was that claimed multiple times we were "stupid" because "we didn't understand" the orange ass monkey was "only using tariffs as a bargaining chip" and he was never actually going to apply them. Oh wait... that was the same pussy who's afraid to make an appearance on the board these days.
by Indy! on February 2, 2025 10:24 am
*somehow
by Curt_Anderson on February 2, 2025 10:33 am Not that I would expect to get a coherent answer from any Trump voter, but can anybody explain why Trump put only a 10% tariff on global rival China while putting a 25% tariff on our friends and neighbors Mexico in Canada? My understanding is that China is the originating source of fentanyl.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 10:40 am
Donna,
Do you notice the twinkle in Ben's eyes? Talk about glee!
pb hates tariffs but he loooooooves seeing TDS in action.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 10:58 am
Guys,
I'm a libertarian-ish GOP. By definition, I'm opposed to tariffs.
But, Canada is saying that they'll buy Canadian. If Canada buys Canadian and the US buys US, who do you suppose comes out ahead?
IMO this tariffs thing is lose/lose. Ben and Donna are crazy if they think that a tariff war between Canada and the US is a fair fight.
by Curt_Anderson on February 2, 2025 11:04 am Now Trump seems to be changing his rationale for tariffs. It's not about migrants or fentanyl, it's about America supposedly being ripped off. We are also getting an admission that there will be pain and price for Americans to pay.
Trump vowed Sunday to move ahead with steep new tariffs on U.S. allies and trading partners, saying the nation has been ripped off and is “not going to be the ‘Stupid Country’ any longer,” while Canada and Mexico prepared financial countermeasures.
“WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!)” Trump posted on Truth Social. “BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID.”
by Indy! on February 2, 2025 11:06 am
Good lord for your wife's sake, I hope you're pretending to be this stupid.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 11:10 am
"Now Trump seems to be changing his rationale for tariffs. It's not about migrants or fentanyl, it's about America supposedly being ripped off."
Do tell, Curt.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 11:12 am
Indy,
No, and bless her heart. This is my natural level of stoopid.
by Donna on February 2, 2025 11:19 am
You might be right, Indy. I'm trying my best to be optimistic, though. If MAGAs themselves push back against Trump, it would have the biggest impact. That's why I'm trying to be optimistic.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 11:24 am
...can anybody explain why Trump put only a 10% tariff on global rival China while putting a 25% tariff on our friends and neighbors Mexico in Canada?
Curt,
You watch Fox more than ole pb but what I heard is that these are 10% in addition to the tariffs the US currently imposes on China. You could ask Indy's dad.
by Donna on February 2, 2025 11:31 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tariffs the US have on China are on targeted products, which is the smart way to impose tariffs, not the stupid, self-defeating, inflationary blanket 10% tariff that our insane president says he's going to impose on China.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 11:42 am
Donna,
I've heard and read such inflammatory reporting on the tariffs that I have no idea what's true.
H€ck, even Ben's rant was fairly middle-of-the-road.
by Ponderer on February 2, 2025 11:49 am
Doesn't Hate seem near downright proud of his willful stupidity?
As if finding out how tariffs work would require a PhD in something and he's not gonna waste his time in months of research to learn for himself the complex mechanizations of the very concept of tariffs.
Because he is tremendously and unabashedly stupid.
by Donna on February 2, 2025 12:02 pm
It took me 2 minutes to find the following article which explains that Trump's previous set of tariffs on China were on targeted types of products, which is the correct way to do tariffs. In fact, as the article explains, not only did Biden keep those tariffs in place, he placed new tariffs on additional types of products that we're importing from China.
nytimes.com
by Ponderer on February 2, 2025 12:08 pm
As coincidence would have it, I've just recently completed months of research looking into finding an answer for Hate, regarding where he could discover the complex meaning of what a tariff is and how it works. I charitably present him with a link to the very knowledge he seeks... google.com
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 1:17 pm
"It took me 2 minutes to find the following article which explains that Trump's previous set of tariffs on China were on targeted types of products, which is the correct way to do tariffs."
So far, the reporting on the impending tariffs that I've found is biased. It's practically preaching.
And, Trump hasn't imposed them yet. I'll believe them when I see them.
Re: "As coincidence would have it, I've just recently completed months of research looking into finding an answer for Hate, regarding where he could discover the complex meaning of what a tariff is and how it works."
As you know, po, pb's monumentally stoopid.
by meagain on February 2, 2025 2:02 pm "As you know, po, pb's monumentally stoopid."
It is encouraging that you are recognising that in yourself. It may give you a sense of purpose. As Socrates said, " An unexamined life is not worth living."
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 2:09 pm
Socrates, meagain? How old are you?
by meagain on February 2, 2025 2:21 pm Socrates, meagain? How old are you
That explains a lot about you. When the precepts of Socrates are forgotten, you are in a very bad place.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 2:23 pm
Currently, I'm in South Carolina.
by Indy! on February 2, 2025 3:24 pm
The other problem with MAGAts turning on the Homeless Hairdo is he has nothing to lose. He can't be re-elected (wtihout a Constitutional Amendment) and he doesn't care if he destroys the last remnants of the Republican party.
by HatetheSwamp on February 2, 2025 3:48 pm
"The other problem with MAGAts..."
Yesterday someone explained to me what MAGAt means. Someone on Fox.
by Indy! on February 2, 2025 5:34 pm
You actually needed an explanation?
by HatetheSwamp on February 3, 2025 6:35 am
I don't delve in hate speech.
by meagain on February 3, 2025 7:08 am In South Carolina. Don't stay too long.
O when you come in summer time,
To South Carlinar's sultry clime,
If in de shade you chance to lie,
You'll soon find out de blue tail fly,
An scratch 'im wid a brier too.
All the scratching might wake you up so that you become woke.
by Indy! on February 3, 2025 6:36 pm
by HatetheSwamp on February 3, 2025 6:35 am
I don't delve in hate speech.
You just traffic in it. It's your stock in trade, Brown Shorts.
by oldedude on February 3, 2025 8:59 pm curt- put only a 10% tariff on global rival China while putting a 25% tariff on our friends and neighbors Mexico in Canada? My understanding is that China is the originating source of fentanyl. Mexico (mainly) is a pipeline, not a producer of fentanyl and cocaine. So you have to show that (which I think you can).
a couple of issues here. First, because of your love of the status quo, China is already "tariffed" over the 25%. You need to check your stats. Second. How do you tariff a non-registered product (fentanyl?). They still claim they have nothing to do with the fentanyl trade. Of course, you're free to prove it to the UN.
So. we're in a conundrum. We can't tariff a product that doesn't exist. Just like the Colombians. If they would be nice enough to claim it on the GDP, then maybe.
Again. you complete lack of knowledge of international and global trade is astounding. I mean, your domestic knowledge is bad enough, this hits the upper rails.
by oldedude on February 3, 2025 9:05 pmI don't delve in hate speech.
You just traffic in it. It's your stock in trade, Brown Shorts.
like I've said numerous times, you ONLY deal with hate speech. You hate everyone. You just did it there. If you can't see it, you need to stop being a troll.
by Indy! on February 3, 2025 9:12 pm
Yes, and you're a charming, well-mannered gentleman when you accuse board members of having sex with children. 🙄
by oldedude on February 3, 2025 9:16 pm Donna- show me it's "illegal" You didn't show anything before.
princess. That was not understandable. Get out from under mommies' Nickers (the cow leaking 15 bulls' sperm) before you pretend to say anything useful.
by Donna on February 4, 2025 7:10 am
Tariff rates are set by Congress, od. So was USAID. If Donald or his not-so-shadowy shadow president Elon want to impose tariffs or get rid of a federal agency, they have to work with Congress.
This is basic civics, od.
by Ponderer on February 4, 2025 8:13 am
You know... Even though he has both houses of congress, the presidency, and the Supreme Court, Trump is still such a wanton criminal at heart that he is still driven to go about things illegally even when he doesn't have to.
I really believe at this point that he wants to beat Hitler's 54-day government takeover record.
by HatetheSwamp on February 4, 2025 8:18 am
Donna, po: With each of your posts, a third of me wants to weep for you. The rest?...
... I'm laughing my @$$ off!
by HatetheSwamp on February 4, 2025 8:19 am
"In South Carolina. Don't stay too long."
Baha. We leave in early April.
by oldedude on February 4, 2025 8:21 am Obviously, you don't know the history, nor the workarounds with USAID. You need to do just a little research. My point is that you don't know any part of the picture. You're taking the "word" of someone that lies for a living, telling you all about his justifications, reasons, and lies about what he does so he doesn't get fired, nor does he get busted and arrested for illegal activity. And like he said. Neither of you know if Musk has the clearance. State Dept doesn't take care of that. DOJ does. So he wouldn't be told what Musks clearance is. So it's a simple scattered castles issue. Learn about that first.
FYI. All the whining and bitching you had about musk looking at all your "personal info" (which isn't to the government.) If ANYONE has the ability to abuse the system, it's USAID. I'm shocked you would support such an agency in the US government, given the vast knowledge you have about the subject.
There are no tracers outside the agency for "lookups" in their agency. So someone wants to look at your Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid records and see what your health records look like, there's no record of them doing so. And they can do the same on your wife. OR they can get your x or fakebook posts from both of you for subversive activity. There's nothing you can do about that. And they don't have to disclose where they got the information in court or anything else.
With my clearance, they already have all the information on me they need. I'm kind of an open book to DoD and State. Can't hide anything from them.
by Ponderer on February 4, 2025 9:32 am
"Neither of you know if Musk has the clearance." -olde dude
Oh! And you do...?
We know that he hasn't gotten clearance by any legal means that one would acquire. You're free to post anything that shows that Musk has a lick of legal authorization to make off with classified government information.
The president can't simply invent a "department" and then sic some non-vetted, non-approved, non-authorized vandal to just barge into government offices demanding to be handed classified data that he has absolutely no legal right to getting.
If someone commits a crime, it doesn't become legal just because a bunch of other people helped him commit the crime.
by Indy! on February 4, 2025 9:35 am
OD's "clearance" is the short distance between his mouth and Leon Muskkk's nuts.
by Donna on February 4, 2025 10:02 am
Even Donald Chump's press secretary couldn't answer whether or not Musk was vetted or has security clearance.
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by HatetheSwamp on February 4, 2025 10:17 am
I don't know which is more entertaining, deranged TrumpHate, or deranged Muskhate.
But, enuff already! I'm too old to have this much fun every day for four straight years!
by Donna on February 4, 2025 10:28 am
This was published on 12/16/24:
Elon Musk will not receive highest-level government security clearance – reports
The SpaceX head has been advised to not seek the same over his drug use and contacts with foreign nationals
"...Musk currently holds a “top-secret” clearance that took years to obtain after he discussed use of marijuana on a 2018 podcast with Joe Rogan, according to the outlet. But that may not be enough to have access to information about US government payloads in his rockets.
Typically, candidates undergoing federal security screenings by the department of defense may not receive clearance if the agency expresses concerns about drug or alcohol use, criminal conduct, psychological conditions, sexual behavior or allegiance to the US.
According to the Journal, Musk’s lawyers outlined scenarios in which he might inadvertently disclose secrets to foreign officials with whom he regularly speaks, including the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, with whom he is reported to have been in regular contact since 2022.
Musk’s use of another semi-legal drug, ketamine, in pursuit of what friends call “pure creativity”, along with reports of LSD, ecstasy and magic mushrooms, could also be an issue...
As it stands, Musk is not entitled to enter SpaceX facilities where such classified work is done and discussed, and is denied access to classified elements of payloads. The company recently signed a $1.8bn classified contract with the national reconnaissance office, the agency that operates spy satellites, among other, pre-existing government contracts."
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This article doesn't address whether or not Musk and his little army of hackers hold the proper security level to access private Social Security and Medicare info or national security secrets at USAID unless President Chump granted them those clearances. Can Chump do that, though?
theguardian.com
by oldedude on February 4, 2025 10:30 amEven Donald Chump's press secretary couldn't answer whether or not Musk was vetted or has security clearance.
Why would she have that information? Because you, donna, DEMAND IT?!
I'M GUMBY DAMMIT! I DEMAND TO KNOW!
Yeah... The "world*" is "listening".....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is of course, the world that revolves around you. It's small, insignificant, shallow, and worthless.
by Indy! on February 4, 2025 10:50 am
My, my... how fast the board's super "American" folds and let's cop killers off the hook and allows Vladimir Putin and China at peek at our most sensitive information courtesy of an Afrikkkaner billionaire with not a care in the world for America or Americans. As I've always said - you are a fucking fraud, OD. Your orange master says it's going to be okay - you just bend over and take it without even the courtesy of a little lube. 😂
Donna's post:
Comical...
Tulsi Gabbard’s bid for national director of intelligence has gained a key supporter, in the form of “serial disappointer” Maine Senator Susan Collins, flipping an essential Republican holdout on one of Donald Trump’s most dangerous nominees.
"Serial disappointer" 😂 When? Where? Collins is as red as they come. Just like Brown Shorts and the board cop killer.
"essential Republican holdout" 😂 When? Where? Collins tows the GOP line just like every other MAGAt out there.
“After extensive consideration of her nomination, I will support Tulsi Gabbard to be the Director of National Intelligence,” Collins said.
Yes, of course Susan. You'll support the orange ass monkey when he hands the keys of the Capital to Vlad and gladly put your head into his guillotine if it makes the Homeless Hairdo happy.
Every Red is a MAGAt. Every MAGAt will do ANYTHING for their orange master. That certainly includes the two board Brown Shorts.
by Donna on February 4, 2025 10:55 am
I didn't post what you're saying I posted.
Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are among the only few MAGA Party lawmakers who occasionally side with the Dems.
by HatetheSwamp on February 4, 2025 11:05 am
And, both are enigmatic pbGOPs.
by Indy! on February 4, 2025 12:10 pm
Neither one EVER sides with the Ds UNLESS the Rs already have enough votes to pass whatever onerous legislation they dreamed up after watching the Aussie Fairy Tale Factory. You are so easily duped by the swamp - no wonder you are mired up to your eyeballs in it, Brown Shorts.
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