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pbGOP Lisa Murkowski on a rampage
By HatetheSwamp
June 14, 2024 7:08 am
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She's p!$$ed. Rightly so. If Trump wins, this a substantial reason. And, Murkowski is as anti-MAGA as any GOP drawing breath.


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  1. by oldedude on June 14, 2024 7:26 am
    Wow. And that's something other states are going to support also, since pedojoe cut those great paying jobs with benefits and just let the equipment rust.

  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 14, 2024 7:36 am

    She makes the point that it's only red states that are targeted. "Of the people, by the people and for the people." NOT.

    If there's any hope that Pennsylvania will vote against "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" it's that there are oil and natural gas jobs here.

    It's the economy, stupid, eh?

  3. by Indy! on June 14, 2024 12:45 pm

    Oil is the past. Time to move on. Coal workers had to deal with it - so do other fossil fuel workers. What a shame - a lot of us have been put out of business by progress.

  4. by Curt_Anderson on June 14, 2024 12:48 pm
    Let's bring back fossil-free whale oil, the renewable fuel! And bring back the good paying whaling industry jobs.

  5. by Indy! on June 14, 2024 12:51 pm

    Funny I don't remember PB and OD crying over the millions of newspaper people who have been put out of work or the unfortunate people who were manufacturing fax machines. 🤔

  6. by oldedude on June 14, 2024 9:19 pm
    you two are complete losers in this. Forcing this issue is nothing but stupid and premature. I think they should be available, but neither of you give a shit about anyone that actually has a job they need to get to.

    I guess it's just that you can't feel complete without making others feel worse than you do. If you have a dollar more, it makes you feel like a winner. When in fact, you're too insecure with yourself to actually have any sort of empathy in your life.

  7. by Indy! on June 15, 2024 10:56 am

    I have empathy for people who have earned it. That's why I have none for you, Old Dud.

  8. by Indy! on June 15, 2024 10:57 am

    However the "jobs" part is funny. The old dude living off my hard earned tax dollars is acting like we're the welfare queens in this conversation. 😂

  9. by oldedude on June 15, 2024 11:03 am
    "We're"? No. YOU yes are the welfare queen.

    I worked for the government (like any other company) for 40+ years. I retired (thrice). I'm in the process of their version of "workers' Comp." What the fuck is so hard to see about that?

    Your sole source of income in being the pass-around pack at parties because you have nothing else that is worth any money.

  10. by Indy! on June 15, 2024 1:34 pm

    That's funny. OD thinks he "worked" for the government. That's what they all think until they get a reel job.

  11. by oldedude on June 16, 2024 6:41 pm
    Let's bring back fossil-free whale oil, the renewable fuel! And bring back the good paying whaling industry jobs.

    Curt- through your bullshit, there is nothing but stupidity. If you (and the other limo, white liberal stupidasfucknotwillingtonegotiate Libbings) would actually look at what is going on in the US.

    1. EVs are NOT selling. Period end of story. Enterprise tried to put them in their fleet and it was an epic failure.
    2. states are REFUSING THE CA EV MANDATES for great reason.
    3. With $7.5 Billion In Federal Funds it has Yielded Only 8 EV Charging Stations But the delays in federally funded chargers are caused by “wanting to get it right,” a federal official says. The timing is important, because the slow pace of federal charging build-out has become a political issue.
    Now. I will say they are correct. It does take time to get it "right." My question is "Why in the fuck didn't they get it right to start with?" This is, I think the answer to EVs. They need to get it right to sell it to the people. I mean, why should I pay more for a POS that blows up with a lithium battery? It doesn't make sense if the car I have works better and is more reliable.

  12. by oldedude on June 16, 2024 6:45 pm
    Again, she makes the point that in an internal memo, "She makes the point that it's only red states that are targeted." You can be a little bitch about clean energy, but when you specifically target your political advisory, you just violated the constitution. Of course the left doesn't care, so there's that.

  13. by Indy! on June 17, 2024 10:42 am

    EV's are not selling? That's kinda funny considering I have some in my building which has no EV station. I see Teslas on the road all the time. The apartments they built around the corner put in their own EV station which they're actually making money from by "charging" other people in the neighborhood (of condos and apartments) to charge up their vehicles. No, sorry - what is happening here is yet another example of OD not understanding how people with an agenda use PERCENTAGES to slant a story in their favor. EV sales are still growing - but at a slower pace. Why? Because there are a LOT MORE of them out there now. Again - Indy's simple example...

    You sell 1 EV in 2010 - and 2 in 2011 -
    You increased sales 100% even though the difference is 1 EV.

    You sell 100,000 in 2020 - and "only" 110,000 in 2021 -
    Sales "only" increased 10% even though the difference is 9,999 EVs.

    Tesla - the big dog - took a hit on sales because they exploded in the last few years - so yeah, sales are off a bit. However...

    From the article below (note the article date - Thursday April 11, 2024 - very recent)

    Though the overall year-over-year growth was minimal in Q1, nine manufacturers recorded more than 50% year-over-year growth in EV sales – BMW, Cadillac, Ford, Hyundai, Kia, Lexus, Mercedes, Rivian and Vinfast.

  14. by oldedude on June 17, 2024 12:48 pm
    Despite what you think you are seeing, here are the numbers. I rest my case as usual. You could have just googled it.
    EVs are not selling well in the US[1][2][3] Sixty-six percent of US car dealers don’t have any EVs to sell, and 45% said they wouldn’t sell them no matter what1. EVs will still only account for less than 8% of total new-vehicle sales in 2023[2]. Affordability remains the top reason consumers aren’t buying EV[2]. In March, 21% of new-vehicle shoppers said they were “very unlikely” to consider an EV[3].

    Electrifying the car market may be getting more difficult, with the share of Americans who say they’re “very unlikely” to consider an EV for their next vehicle purchase growing in each of the first three months of the year, according to a new report.

    In March, 21% of new-vehicle shoppers said they were “very unlikely” to consider an EV, up from 18.9% in February and 17.8% in January, consumer analytics firm JD Power said in a monthly EV report. In contrast, the percentage of car shoppers who say they are “very likely” to consider an EV was 26.9% in March, largely flat this year.

    Persistent worries about charging infrastructure and vehicle pricing’s dampening enthusiasm, the report said. EV’s market share of all new-vehicle sales dropped to 7.3% in March, down from a record high of 8.5% in February but up from 2.6% in February 2020.

  15. by Indy! on June 17, 2024 1:56 pm

    Nothing but percentages - you really need to stay away from them until you understand them, OD...

    "66% of US car dealers don't have any EVs to sell..."

    What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. We need more info...

    "...45% said they wouldn’t sell them no matter what."

    Okay now we're getting somewhere - 45% of the car dealers will NEVER sell EVs, so we can just take them out of the equation..

    66 - 45 = 19%

    So 19% of US dealers don't have EVs to sell and they are the only ones that matter since the others aren't selling them no matter what. Why do the 19% NOT have EVs to sell? Because they don't like them and don't want to sell them? No - common sense says those are the 45% who will never sell them. So what's up? Are the 19% just out of stock because they SOLD ALL THEIR EVs? We don't know.

    So again - you got fooled by the %s - we'll give you a pass until someone explains it to you again. I've tried 3 or 4 times already and your brain is obviously either on vacation or not up to the task. 😌

  16. by oldedude on June 17, 2024 4:02 pm
    It's really interesting that you stated earlier on this site the "ONLY" thing you could believe is "percentages." I think that's stupid, because if the numbers are wrong, the percentages will be off, but you can live in your own little world. I do think that for comparisons, percentages are the best way to go.

    Because of the "money saved" (which was actually a bait and switch by pedojoe), most dealerships purchased at least some to have on stock. Epic Fail.

    It's written there. The 19% couldn't sell them. They got rid of them by other means. The 66% of the car dealerships shipped them to loser places like miami, LA, etc. CO refuses to follow CA standards because EVs don't have the capability to do what they need to do six months out of the year. And they're a die/hard sheeple state.

    Hertz CEO out following electric car ‘horror show’

    Trouble and turmoil continue at rental car company Hertz.

    The company, which announced in January it was selling 20,000 of the electric vehicles in its fleet, or about a third of the EVs it owned, is now replacing the CEO who helped build up that fleet, giving it the company’s fifth boss in just four years.

    The company announced that Stephen Scherr, who came to the company two years ago after nearly 30 years at Goldman Sachs, is stepping down at the end of this month. He’ll be replaced by Gil West, former chief operating officer of Delta Air Lines and General Motors’ Cruise unit.

    Trouble and turmoil continue at rental car company Hertz.

    Lee County-based Hertz, while not totally exiting from renting electric vehicles, plans to sell off a large portion of its electronic vehicle fleet and use proceeds to buy gas-powered cars.

    Bottom line
    Key takeaway: Estero-based Hertz is selling off one-third of its electronic vehicle fleet and will use some of the proceeds to buy gas-powered vehicles.

    Core challenge: The company says EVs make up a large number of lower margin rentals and have higher damage expenses.

    What’s next: Hertz will still have EVs in its fleets and intends to work with manufacturers to make parts and labor on the units more affordable.

  17. by Indy! on June 17, 2024 4:12 pm

    OD, have you considered that EVs might not be the best vehicles for a rental car company? People renting cars might have never driven an EV and don't want to spend an hour of their vacation time learning how and where to charge them up. But EVs are still here to stay - why you care? I have no idea. But we are gradually shifting to a majority of electric vehicles on the road. Probably won't happen in your lifetime because you're old and all that vitriol you have for EVs has to be eating away at your innards - but your grandkids? Yeah - they'll be cruising in an electric vehicle. And if Trump tells you people get electrocuted driving EVs in the rain? You believe it and tell all your friends - especially your mechanic and the guys down at your local car dealership.

  18. by oldedude on June 17, 2024 8:47 pm
    Yes. and by the complete crap we are being fed by the limousine liberals and the self righteous thumpers such as yourself, there are issues. Why do you think I posted a rebuttal? my point is that you'll NEVER quit attacking. even in a list of facts. So any fight now, is just a showing of your refusal to understand the issue. If people don't want them for their lender vehicles? Why the fuck would they like them (right now) for their own vehicles?

  19. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 11:57 am

    There are "issues" with every product on every retailer's shelves. No one has ever said EVs are the perfect answer to anything.

  20. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 11:59 am
    I missed your question - sorry...

    Why would people want them now? Because they don't want to pay high gas prices or pollute the environment? The better question is why do you or Fox care? Well Fox cares because they are paid to promote an agenda and pimping the oil barons is part of that agenda. But you? Why do you care what kind of car someone is driving? I don't.

  21. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 1:39 pm
    I don't care what car you drive. Or what store you go to, or what movies you watch. I have been actively advocating and working for the environment since I was 16, and we were wilderness hiking, climbing, and winter/glacier climbing. I spend vacations actually doing things for the good of the environment (shark tagging, picking up ocean waste, etc). Again, you took me completely out of context when you lost the argument.

    What I care about is that we're not technologically ready to go full on EV. First. The grid can't take it. And where do we get the electricity for the grid? Coal-fired plants? Very few of the power plants produce more electricity than they produce emissions. I believe we need to get that moving before we make all these things mandatory. LPG would be a great resource to start cleaning things up. pedojoe ended producing something we were net positive on. That to me is stupid. And it ended a lot of high paying jobs with great benefits for families. That is a boom for the nation as a whole while we figure out the CA brownouts and the grid.

  22. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 3:16 pm

    How did I take you out of context? You're pissed about EVs - you didn't say anything about the environment until I brought it up. You didn't say anything about the power grid either. So again - you just jump to whatever "conclusion" you think is going to help you. And if you REALLY want to help the wilderness and glaciers? Stay out of and off them.

    So far as the grid (CA brownouts, etc...) - this is just the new stalling tactic by the oil companies. Remember how long they claimed EVs weren't practical because the batteries didn't last long enough? It's the same script the cigarette companies used to keep their noxious products on the shelf (I bet you defended them too) - extend the debate with nonsense that doesn't matter. If the grids are a problem - maybe update them since they needed that before EVs were even a thing? Maybe throw in a little protection around them since that's the soft underbelly of this country and likely the first place whoever wants to fuck with us will attack first. Meanwhile, nobody has made EVs "mandatory" - you can still waste your money on a diesel Ford truck if you feel you need it in case the world comes to an end.

  23. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 7:44 pm
    Again, you evaded what I said. As I said. I'm not pissed off about anything but you evading all logic and acting like a 10 year old.

    EV's, although a good idea, are not useful for consumer because of their technology. Sorry I was so far above your reach. I also think they'll be in common use in my lifetime. I don't have an issue with that.

    I have an issue (like I've said many, many times) with how pedojoe has handled the whole thing, like I said above.

    I don't believe the government has the right to "Mandate" EVs being the only vehicle we can buy by a certain year. If it happens by consumer preferences, fine. But pedojoe has spent BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on this and it's been a failure. He's squashed good paying, full-time jobs people were trusting to have for a few years (construction goes from job to job, so everything is finite) and there needs to be new construction to replace the old jobs every few years. These can be updated with the new technology.

    So, when you get off your crack high... this is much simpler than you make it out to be. And it's nothing I haven't said numerous times before.

  24. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 7:52 pm
    Back to the original point. The government YOU SUPPORT targets their political rivals to fuck over only because they're political rivals. This is a fascist/ dictatorial move by third world shitholes like pedojoe wants (as well as being anti-Constitutional). And it was stated in an EPA INTERNAL MEMO. So who are the fascists now? pedojoe is the lead horses arse for this. It's why AK can't get their approvals after TEN YEARS. It's why the Dakotas had the pipeline taken from them.

    If you believe these are okay, then YOU are the fascist. Simply put. I know curt doesn't see anything wrong with it, but I accept that he's a good little german that will only respond when his media tells him to.

  25. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 8:05 pm

    Which "government that I support" are you talking about? France again? 😂

    ANd you're the one who went off point with glaciers and all your ALLEGED good environmental works that we never once heard about in the past - only now that you needed another escape hatch.

  26. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 9:34 pm
    I've talked about my environmental stuff several times. Buy a clue.

    The point is that you don't support any western government. And you continue to support Hamas and your other butties.

  27. by Indy! on June 19, 2024 11:49 am

    The point is you - as always - have absolutely nothing to back that up. And I will state right here and now that I fully support the Swedish government.

  28. by oldedude on June 19, 2024 1:59 pm
    One out of 70 ain't bad.

  29. by Indy! on June 19, 2024 2:16 pm

    You want the whole list? Let me know how much is in it for me - then we'll talk.

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