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At Turning Point: Trump Jr. Hilariously Reminds Voters of Father's Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein
By Curt_Anderson
June 17, 2024 10:44 pm
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Speaking to the right-wing Turning Point Action this week, Donald Trump Jr. brought up the late convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s associates in an attempt to demonstrate a MAGA conspiracy theory about a supposed judicial system bias against his father.

“How is it that my father could be convicted of 34 [felonies],” the former president’s son asked, “but no one on [Jeffrey] Epstein's list has even been brought to light?”

Trump Jr.'s comment was an interesting choice given his father’s long and documented close personal relationship with Epstein. However, even as social media users alluded to the relationship, Trump Jr. he doubled down on X, claiming “You know who’s not on the Epstein list? My father… That’s a fact.”

MeidasTouch pointed out on X that Donald Trump was on Epstein’s flight logs at least seven times.


Trump and Epstein had an alleged friendship and the real estate mogul previously flew on his jets, according to flight logs. Trump was among the names in documents unsealed in the settled case released in January.

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Comments on "At Turning Point: Trump Jr. Hilariously Reminds Voters of Father's Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on June 18, 2024 3:20 am

    I know you watch Fox News, Curt, but I'm honestly stunned that you watched Turning Point Action.

    Ahhhh. You watched it on Fox Nation,... the premium service true Fox devotées actually pay for!


  2. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 8:34 am
    I find it interesting that even after the release of trumpster being "on the list" that absolutely ZERO has been done. I would think that IF it sorta, kinda, maybe have some reality in it, the good little germans like curt would have already brought charges. I mean, all they need is one. Just one person to lie testify in court, but they can't find someone that would do that.

    This is pretty much the same gaslighting the cracker limousine liberals do constantly. Creating a LIE that other naive liberals are too stupid to question. So either curt is one of the perpetrator's of the lie, or he's a true belieber. My bet is that it's the latter.

    I'm calling bullshit on curt.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2024 9:38 am
    OD, we in the public wouldn’t know if absolutely ZERO has been done. The victims of the sexual abuse will often settle the matter civilly or outside of court in which case the rich perpetrators pay the victims to make up somewhat for their crimes. Of course there are a lot of nondisclosure agreements, so we will probably never know.


  4. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 11:13 am
    So you're saying there's no case then. If no one is willing to testify, my statement remains.



  5. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 11:42 am

    The FBI is cockblocking anyone who tries to do something because Epstein was obviously their boy. The FBI has a long history of spying on Americans, using blackmail to keep famous/influential people in line and they are the ones who busted Lolita Island and confiscated everything from Epstein's lair. Read between the lines and it's all there.


  6. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2024 11:45 am
    OD,
    First, I have no idea what I said that you are calling bullshit on. Do you doubt that Don Jr. bragged that his father is not on the "Epstein list"? Do you doubt that Trump and Epstein were friends? Do you doubt that Trump flew to Epstein's island? I provide links to all that. If you think, I accused Trump of anything, I didn't. If you want to draw your own conclusions about birds of a feather, I won't disagree.

    As I said, we in the public wouldn't know about any out-of-court settlements. The participants do testify. If they are caught in a lie, there are negative repercussions which could upend the agreement between alleged sexual abusers and the victims. A judge could sentence the liar to prison and/or a fine as it's considered contempt of court.


  7. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 3:34 pm

    Bigger question for OD... Why is he defending a convicted felon and accused pedophile? And by that I mean Donald Trump - a guy he claims he won't be voting for come November.


  8. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 7:53 pm
    Show where trumpster is a pedophile. I think you've got your stories crossed with pedojoe.


  9. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 8:02 pm

    I need to show a Trumper? Fox didn't cover Trump's own comment about watching the Teen Miss America girls getting dressed?


  10. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2024 8:14 pm
    OD,
    I am reluctant to disabuse you of your misconceptions about Donald Trump‘s morality. Perhaps you could Google a quote, keyword or a name from the paragraphs below and discover on your own what kind of man, one who was found liable for sexual assault in court, Donald Trump is. While you’re at it Google Donald Trump‘s interview with Howard Stern when he joked about walking into pageant dressing rooms.

    Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

    "I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’ " said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

    Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before."


  11. by Indy! on June 18, 2024 9:18 pm

    He saw it all on Epstein's Lolita Island.

    Trump has at least 16 women who have accused him of sexual assault. Some have claimed when it got down to the legal action - they started receiving threats of personal harm if they testified against him.


  12. by oldedude on June 18, 2024 9:32 pm
    I think the fact that you attack trumpster and allow pedojoe to skate on his complete lack of morals is sickening. Your acceptance of the rape trees is another issue, but not meaningless in your protection sexual offenders is at best questionable for you. I have more than a few questions regarding your "moral integrity." You have always protected the ones you will always protect, telling me your thoughts towards violent sexual assaults are less than your dogma regarding the left. pedojoe boob-grazed a woman on live TV. and you "excused" him when she did not. And you'll do it again. Then you talk about boebert being "sickening." Not that it wasn't wrong, but you have a double standard that supports the aggression and male violence patterns of rape. All this IF they are part of your agreed party. With the political enemies, you'll use "no one knows if they ever did this" as an accusation of guilt. Or a rumour you can't prove happened. When you can actually watch something happen and protect the perp of girls. I will say again this is sickening. There are some things in our society that tries to ensure "safety" for the weakest of us. You don't believe in that IF their political party agrees with you. My morals are different. Raping another human being absolutely overshadows my "political" views. So my morals overshadow my political views. Yours does not.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2024 9:54 pm
    The only living person adjudicated liable for sexual assault mentioned in this thread is Donald Trump. We aren't giving him a pass, but you seem to be. It is pathetic that nearly half the country will probably vote for a multiple-time indicted, convicted felon and sexual assaulter.


  14. by oldedude on June 19, 2024 6:39 am
    My question is; what about billy cliton? (convicted of sex assault and a guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.) and hill? They were mentioned, and were NOT given a pass from G. Maxwell in a sworn proffer and Virginia Guiffre. That makes a difference. Guiffre was an Epstein accuser and had ZERO reason to not tell the truth. There were no proffer's for her, as the accuser and witness to the Epstein business she testified freely under oath.

    In recently unsealed court documents involving dead child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, a woman named Virginia Giuffre, who publicly accused Epstein of sex trafficking, said that she once saw former Democratic President Bill Clinton on Epstein's island with "two young girls" from New York.

    In the questioning by lawyer Jack Scarola, Guiffre was asked, "Do you have any recollection of Jeffrey Epstein's specifically telling you that 'Bill Clinton owes me favors?'"

    "Yes, I do," Guiffre answered. "It was a laugh though. He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey what's Bill Clinton doing here [on Epstein's island] kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said well he owes me favors."

    "He never told me what favors they were," Guiffre continued. "I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious. It was just a joke... He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets."

    Epstein had multiple ties to Clinton, and Clinton—along with many other big name celebrities—was a repeated passenger on Epstein's private Boeing 727 plane which was nicknamed the "Lolita Express" due to the frequent delivery of apparently underage women to the island of Little Saint James, a reference to the 1955 Vladimir Nabokov novel about a 36-year-old literature professor who sexually engages a 12-year-old girl.

    In 2002, Epstein hosted Clinton—as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—on a 2002 tour of Africa associated with the Clinton Foundation. Epstein called Clinton "the world's greatest politician." In a 2002 New York magazine article in which President Donald Trump mentioned Epstein's predilection for girls "on the younger side," Clinton praised Epstein.


    Again, Maxwell has given trumpster a pass on wrongdoing. The reason she's so important to this is that she collects the money. She has knowledge of the type and gender preference of everyone on that aircraft. If anyone would know and be able to speak on innocence it would be her.

    And of course, it wasn't just Maxwell who knew about trumpster. One of the four women who say they were “groomed” for sex by Ghislaine Maxwell testified Wednesday that the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein took her to meet Donald Trump when she was just 14.

    Testifying at Maxwell’s trial in New York City, the woman, who is being identified by the pseudonym Jane, said on cross-examination that she met the future president in the 1990s at Mar-a-Lago, his resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

    Jane didn’t allege any improper behavior by Trump and didn’t go into further detail about why she was at the resort.


    You would think that if there were any improprieties by trumpster, this would be the time to do that. Again, "Jane" is a victim, and her testimony is worth a lot. Also, if she were to be bought off, or was a gold digger, this would be the perfect target of opportunity. But it didn't happen. Also, just a refresher. An NDA for an illegal act is called Coercion or blackmail and IF that would have happened, I would welcome the charges against anyone, including trumpster. We would have full agreement on that. And I would be wishing for a sentence to the depths of the worst federal prison for him. I haven't said it for awhile, but if that were true, I would be happy to have him shanked, brought back to life, repeat. And repeat. And someday, he couldn't be saved. Oh well. But it didn't happen.

    In questioning the investigation into trumpster on the Epstein angle. I'm just going to say there were enough victims/ witnesses that if trumpster were a perp, the story would hace come out. Like your conspiracy theory (if there's a lot of people, we would know about the act).

    Given court evidence, I'm truly questioning your integrity.
    newsweek.com
    nbcnews.com


  15. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2024 6:40 am

    "We aren't giving him a pass..."

    What you mean, "We," white man?


  16. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2024 8:11 am
    “ My question is; what about billy cliton? (convicted of sex assault and a guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.) and hill?”. —OD

    It is difficult to converse with a person who just makes things up. Trump was the guy a jury and a judge deemed liable for sexual assault.

    My point in bringing this topic up was not to besmirch Donald Trump, but to share a laugh about Donald Trump Jr. who brings up a topic I’m sure his father wished he hadn’t. His remarks served as a reminder that Epstein and Trump were buddies, and there are the photos to prove it. Suffice to say Junior did not clear his remarks with the campaign communications director before he said them.


  17. by oldedude on June 19, 2024 8:47 am
    It is difficult to converse with a person who just makes things up.

    Just to clear up immediately, the clitons did, in fact invite
    When Chelsea Clinton wed Marc Mezvinsky back in 2010, it was a star-studded affair. However, one guest was certainly more infamous than famous. We're talking about Ghislaine Maxwell — yes, the Ghislaine Maxwell currently serving 20 years in prison for sexually grooming underage girls.

    Maxwell didn't exactly hide the fact that she was at the former first daughter's nuptials. Far from it, in fact. In one snap of Bill Clinton walking Chelsea down the aisle, her appearance is unmistakable as she grins at the bride-to-be. Why is her being there and not afraid to show it relevant? As it turns out, according to court documents, she'd managed to skip out on a deposition that was part of Virginia Giuffre's (then Virginia Roberts) case against Jeffrey Epstein. She'd done that by telling the court she needed to leave the U.S. (and possibly never return) to be with her sick mother.

    Miraculously, Maxwell's mother recovered not long after, and despite telling the court she might never return to America, the socialite was spotted in an aisle seat at Chelsea's Rhinebeck, New York wedding. The flagrant disregard for her would-be deposition would raise red flags in itself. However, there was more element that seemed a bit shady. According to Daily Mail, largely as a result of Maxwell's no-show at the deposition, Giuffre's case ended up being settled out of court. Just to put the timing into perspective, Chelsea's wedding took place just two weeks after the settlement was finalized.


    And here are the cliton's history.
    Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States (1993–2001), has been publicly accused of sexual assault and/or sexual misconduct by several women: Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of raping her in 1978; Leslie Millwee[1] accused Clinton of sexually assaulting her in 1980; Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her; and Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without her consent in 1993. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, during Clinton's first term as president, while Willey's and Broaddrick's accusations became public in 1999, toward the end of Clinton's second term. Millwee made her accusations in 2016.

    Clinton has denied all four accusations and responded by casting doubt on the credibility of the accusers. In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases in 2017 and the many other such cases that emerged in the aftermath, the allegations against Clinton received renewed attention.


    Monica Lewinsky
    Then President Clinton began an affair with the 22-year-old White House intern in 1995. The two had numerous sexual encounters in the White House, including some in a private office connected to the Oval Office. Lewinsky’s friend, Linda Tripp, recorded several hours of phone conversations in which Lewinsky went into detail about the affair, including the fact that she kept a blue dress that had Clinton’s DNA on it.

    When news of the affair broke in January 1998, Clinton denied the allegations for several months until eventually admitting that he had an inappropriate relationship with Lewinsky in August of 1998. The affair ultimately led to Clinton’s impeachment in the House of Representatives on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice, making him only the second president to be impeached. Clinton was then acquitted after an impeachment trial in the Senate and remained in office.



    en.wikipedia.org
    lawandcrime.com


  18. by Indy! on June 19, 2024 11:26 am

    Is Bill Clinton in the race now? 🤔


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