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It's Groundhog Day for the GOP
By Donna
December 1, 2022 5:52 am
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In 2012, the Republicans had everything going for them heading into the election — just as they did in 2022 — until the candidates who won primaries started talking, and it all went south.

Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock referred to a women getting pregnant during a rape as something “God intended.” Mourdock lost the election to Joe Donnelly, a red-to-blue pickup for the Democrats. In Missouri, Republican candidate Todd Akin claimed that it’s very rare for women who are the victims of “legitimate rape” to become pregnant. Claire McCaskill, the Democratic incumbent senator, sailed to a second term. In Ohio, the tea party celebrated its primary victory with Republican candidate Josh Mandel, only to watch him fall to Democrat Sherrod Brown.

It doesn’t take much to figure out what went wrong for Republicans in 2012: They nominated far-right candidates who alienated themselves from the largest constituency of voters in America — women — and were unable to make inroads with minorities and younger voters.

And yet, the RNC, puzzled by the outcome, commissioned a report that was based on 52,000 contacts made. The conclusion: “The GOP today is a tale of two parties. One of them, the gubernatorial wing, is growing and successful. The other, the federal wing, is increasingly marginalizing itself, and unless changes are made, it will be increasingly difficult for Republicans to win another presidential election in the near future. ... Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the Party represents, and many minorities wrongfully think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country...”

At this point, failure after defeat is a pattern. All evidence points to the Republicans having no interest in breaking the cycle. In the aftermath of their midterm underperformance, they have declared their intention to launch a series of witch hunts targeting Biden’s family and allies, returned to using the border as a scare tactic and are now busy trying to navigate a response to Donald Trump having dinner with a white nationalist and an antisemite. And of course, fighting among themselves over who will lead them in the House.

Does any of this sound like a political party that is taking failure seriously?

Trump wasn’t the cause of this rot in the GOP; it was there years before he came down that escalator to announce his candidacy for president, and it’s still there two years after he lost. The difference now is that racism, misogyny and conspiracy theories are accepted as part of the agenda. You can see it in virtually every soundbite, every tweet, every policy.

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 10:15 am

    I'll speak from Pennsylvania’s experience in 022. Dems spend m-m-m-m-m-m-millions on ads in the GOP gubernatorial primary to support the campaign of Doug Mastriano, whom Dems assumed they could bear in the primary, giving Mastriano an advantage over other GOP candidates. And, Mastriano won the primary...and lost in November. It's hard to entirely blame GOPs for Mastriano.

    BTW, check the numbers. GOPs won big in 022, not just as big as anticipated. But, big!

  2. by Curt_Anderson on December 1, 2022 10:32 am
    The Democrats helped Todd Akin the primary. See:

    How I Helped Todd Akin Win — So I Could Beat Him Later
    By SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL August 11, 2015

    That's not the first and only time it's happened.

    The bottom line is that Republican primary voters willingly voted for extremist crackpots. That's on the GOP. It's the Republicans' fault for normalizing candidates like Blake Masters, Kari Lake, Herschel Walker, Kristina Karamo, Don Bolduc, Tudor Dixon, Doug Mastriano, Sarah Palin, Joe Kent, J.R. Majewski, David Perdue, Janice McGeachin, Mo Brooks, Madison Cawthorn and Lauren Bobert. Of course it all started with the GOP embracing Donald Trump. At a minimum political candidates should have an acceptance of reality and a minimum of personality defects.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 10:44 am

    The bottom line is that Republican primary voters willingly voted for extremist crackpots.

    C'mon man, have some sense. In Pennsylvania, the GOP field was crowded. Mastriano was a legitimate candidate. He received less than 50% of the vote but he won. pb knew what was going on. He wouldn't have voted for Mastriano in the primary no matter what...

    ...but the ads were ingenious.

  4. by Curt_Anderson on December 1, 2022 10:57 am
    The GOP could have thrown money at a sane primary candidate. Maybe somebody who wasn't an insurrectionist who prayed that Donald Trump would seize power on January 6th. As I said, somethings should disqualify candidates.

    I remember that Lyndon LaRouche was shown the door by the DNC. I forgot who the head of the Democratic Party was then, maybe Howard Dean, but he said, "we are a big tent party, but not that big a tent".

  5. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 11:15 am


    This is the difference between GOPs and Dems, at least in Pennsylvania. There's definitely something of fascism among the Dems. The state Dem party endorsed its candidates before the primary campaigns. Fetterman was challenged weakly for the Senate. Josh Shapiro had no serious opposition for governor.

    But, for better and for worse, the GOP is the party of independence and openness and tolerance and diversity and inclusion. It's the people, not the smoke filled room, that rules among GOPs. If the state party had chosen its faves, few GOPs would have cared. Being the party of the people puts the party at risk, but this is America. Tammany Hall and Jim Crow and "vote early vote often" could never have happened in the GOP and its antecedents.

    All that smoke filled room, corrupt stuff is in the Dem DNA.

  6. by Curt_Anderson on December 1, 2022 11:26 am
    The phrase "smoke-filled room" was first used in reference to a Republican Party nomination process about 100 years ago.

    There really aren't any smoke-filled rooms anymore in politics. It's not just because of indoor smoking ordinances. Unlike the old days, now practically every state has some sort of primary in which ordinary voters decide who gets their party's nomination.

    You like to mention that nearly half of voters believe that the last election was rigged. Of course that's the lie the Republican politicians (starting with Trump) tell the party faithful. So it's no wonder the GOP nominates liars and crackpots.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 11:38 am

    Fact: The Pennsylvania Dem party "endorsed" candidates. As OD would say, the sheeple followed in line.

    For the gazillion time. pb doesn't believe that the election was rigged. Like nearly half of likely voters, he believes that there was significant fraud among Dem shenanigans in 020.

  8. by Curt_Anderson on December 1, 2022 11:56 am
    "For the gazillion time. pb doesn't believe that the election was rigged. Like nearly half of likely voters, he believes that there was significant fraud among Dem shenanigans in 020."

    You will have to unpack your distinction between believing that the election was rigged versus fraud affected the election.

    "Voter fraud, electoral fraud or vote rigging are intentional, illegal actions aimed at changing or influencing or forcing the results of an election"

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