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MAGA has a bill that would disenfranchise someone you know: The SAVE Act
By Donna
February 20, 2025 3:56 pm
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An important message from Indivisible:

If we’re going to come out of the next four years with our democracy somewhat intact, we’ve got to do everything within our power to ensure fair elections in 2026. Which is why we absolutely, positively must stop the voter suppression bill known as the SAVE Act from becoming law.

Many, many of you have written us about the SAVE Act already. It’s popping up in the news and all over social media because it is, put simply, the biggest threat to voting rights we’ve seen in a generation. So we wanted to reach out to talk about our strategy for blocking this bill -- and ask some of you to make a call or send an email to help. 

What is the SAVE Act? 

The SAVE Act is an attempt at mass disenfranchisement disguised as an election integrity bill. It would require every voter to show proof of citizenship bearing their current name when registering to vote -- which might not seem like a big deal, unless you spend two seconds thinking about the ramifications. 

Overnight, it’d essentially end online and mail-in voter registration. Proof of citizenship doesn’t mean a simple driver’s license. It means a birth certificate or a passport – documents that tens of millions of citizens simply don’t have access to. Married people who’ve changed their names wouldn’t be able to register using their original birth certificates – effectively disenfranchising millions of women. The burdensome requirements would disproportionately impact younger voters (how many college students do you know who have a birth certificate stashed in their dorm rooms?), voters of color, low-income voters, and elder voters. Arizona and Kansas tried similar legislation and tens of thousands of eligible voters were disenfranchised. 

And what’s the justification for unleashing all that chaos? Republicans would tell you this bill is desperately needed to stop non-citizens from voting in national elections -- a nonexistent problem invented by Donald Trump to prop up his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. It’s something that pretty much never happens, is already illegal, and that states have plenty of safeguards in place to prevent it already. So to repeat: This is not an election integrity bill. It’s a voter suppression bill.


Here’s how we stop it.

Let’s start with the good news: We absolutely, 100% can stop this bill from becoming law, even with Democrats being in the minority in the House and Senate. 

The dynamics here are pretty simple: Republicans are fully united around this bill. Most Dems are staunchly opposed, but some are still reeling from the election and think supporting extreme immigration-adjacent legislation will make them look big and tough. We saw it a few weeks ago with the passage of the Laken Riley Act. We need to put a lot of pressure on these specific Dems to ensure they vote no -- especially in the Senate, where Republicans need Democratic votes to overcome the filibuster. 

House Strategy 

The SAVE Act could get a vote in the House as early as next week. And short of a miracle, it’s going to pass. Yep, we’re not going to dance around it. It’s likely going to pass the House. There are many cases where the Republicans’ miniscule majority and internal infighting/chaos mean that there’s a path to killing a Republican bill by peeling off a few Republican votes. But this is a signature MAGA campaign issue, and we expect every Republican to vote for it. Which means even if every Dem votes no, it’ll advance to the Senate. 

And yet, we’re still going to ask some of you to call your Democratic representatives on this one. And the reason is, as ludicrous as it sounds, when bills pass the House with some Democratic support, wobbly Democratic senators become more likely to support them too. We need Dems in the House to vote no to ensure that Democratic senators don’t capitulate. 

So, if you are represented by: Shomari Figures, Josh Harder, Jared Moskowitz, April McClain Delaney, Kristen McDonald Rivet, Jared Golden, Donald Davis, Tom Suozzi, John Mannion, Susie Lee, Marcy Kaptur, Vicente Gonzalez, Henry Cuellar or Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, please call today and urge them to vote no. And then share the page with friends in your district!

Senate Strategy
 

If we do what we need to, this bill is going to die in the Senate. 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster, and Republicans only have 53 seats. That means they need seven Dems to help them get this across the finish line.

Could there possibly be seven Democrats willing to vote for this horrible bill? We hope not -- but only a few weeks ago, twelve Dems voted for the Laken Riley Act -- one of the cruelest anti-immigrant bills in years (and constitutionally dubious, to boot). 

So, if you are represented by one of those twelve senators -- Catherine Cortez Masto, John Fetterman, Ruben Gallego, Maggie Hassan, Mark Kelly, John Ossoff, Gary Peters, Jacky Rosen, Jeanne Shaheen, Elissa Slotkin, Mark Warner, or Raphael Warnock -- please call them today and urge them to vote no. And then urge friends in your state to call as well!

Don’t have a Member of Congress on either list?

Between President Trump, Chancellor Musk, and the heinous legislation Republicans are introducing every day, there’s a LOT to be talking to your elected officials about right now. We don’t want to pile on by asking you to make calls or sending emails that aren’t urgently needed. 

That said, there’s no harm in calling. It’s good for Republicans to know constituents are paying attention to the harm this bill would do. It’s good for Dems taking the right position on this bill to get a thank you call.

And if you have friends who are represented by one of our House or Senate targets above, please share our call and email pages with them and urge them to contact those members. 

Together, we're going to save our elections from the SAVE Act. 

In solidarity,
Indivisible Team

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Comments on "MAGA has a bill that would disenfranchise someone you know: The SAVE Act":

  1. by Indy! on February 20, 2025 6:35 pm

    The critical flaw in Indivisible is they are still depending on the complicit Democrats. If we are to get to the chase, the Ds would be happy as clams to never be in the majority again. The Rs are passing the bill they really want passed - more tax cuts for the wealthy. Beyond that, what legislation do the Ds want? Meager social engineering crap that matters not a whit to anyone they know? Please. They're not even allowed to say the words "medicare for all" anymore.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2025 2:30 am

    1. It is extremely unlikely that the bill will pass, though it would impair Dem attempts to engage in shenanigans.

    2. The state of your paranoia is becoming so extreme that ole pb worries for you. He's starting to have difficulty laughing at you.


  3. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 8:27 am
    1. You realize of course, the things you mentions are "one-time" issues for most people and are part and parcel of the of getting a driver's license or State ID card.

    2. Without a state-issued ID card, it's illegal to open a bank account, wire money, fly, buy a car, generally rent an apartment, buy a house (or any other major LEGAL financial transaction).

    3. In addition to the above, it is ILLEGAL to collect, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

    4.If you change your name, (usually in a marriage or divorce), you have orders from the courts. Those are considered legal and binding documents.

    5. I know ONE (count'em, ONE) person in my life it would have affected if this were done more than two years ago. The worst of all scenario. Getting Federal and State agencies, AND the courts to talk to each other.

    My daughter in law is Russian by birth. She was married. She uses three names (Russian maiden name, first married name, name now).

    She had to consolidate information from Immigration (Homeland Security) to IRS, to State Dept, the court system, and the State of FL. None of these people talk to each other, and yet it was done within 6 weeks. One problem she had, but immigration found her a person, was that much of the paperwork was in Russian. So to find a terp was much harder than finding someone to speak Spanish in FL (where Spanish is a legal language). Yes, she had to physically show up to places so they could legally ensure SHE was the person she said she was. BFD. Once that is done, the only assholes were the Russians. That took them 6 months, and only affected her Russian Passport, which the US doesn't really care about...

    So for there to be a bunch of whining, bitching, making excuses from people that can't buy a clue about how to do this, I'm not buying any of it.

    "Much Ado About Nothing" from someone that doesn't have to raise a finger.

    Part II coming up.


  4. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 8:45 am
    partie deux of "Much Ado about Nothing Saga."

    IF you come from a state that has the last two issues of the state ID's/ Driver's licenses.

    Five years ago, I was a resident of VA, with a VA driver's license, etc.
    I moved to CO. I walked into the DMV, they ran my information in front of me. I donated a fingerprint; they printed the license, and I was gone. My voter registration was done, I can drive with a local license.

    As a bonus, I had a concealed carry permit issued in CO (after several other things, like full fingerprints, certification from VA regarding course in CCW, etc). I have no problems with the amount of background any state does for a CCW, so to me, it's nothing

    I moved to FL.
    During COVID. I got an appointment. I walked in, had my license from CO. I walked out in about a half hour being able to vote, donate organs, and drive with a local license which is part of the Reciprocity laws with 90% of the states.

    I had to go to a different office for the CCW in FL. Again, that's something I'm willing to do.

    Getting a license in Germany as a member of the NATO military. Go to the German state government. Wait in line. Get told my paperwork was the old paperwork was not valid any more. Wait for the Germans to go to lunch. Come back. Get in the same line, but behind a multitude of Germans. Basically it took me over a week of waiting in line to get the license. And it is illegal for me to vote in Germany. Or have a German passport, and all those other things someone looking for citizenship (if they are) are getting.


  5. by Indy! on February 21, 2025 9:08 am

    What you're not considering, OD is people like you - with no jobs - have plenty of time to go do these things.


  6. by Donna on February 21, 2025 10:17 am

    The SAVE Act is another piece of Republican legislation that seeks to fix a non-existent problem, like the stupid anti-Sharia Law laws that were passed after 9/11. If it passes, millions of American citizens who should be allowed to vote won't be allowed to because they weren't able to prove their citizenship. How many women who changed their nanes when they got married do you think are going to be able to locate all the court papers that were filed years or decades ago that they didn't think they'd ever need again?

    I'm glad that I changed all of my legal papers, including my birth certuficate, after SRS. I keep them all handy and in a safe place.







  7. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2025 10:44 am

    Yeah. It's virtually identical to your "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" Jim Eagle" Georgia voting law. The number of voters has increased rapidly since the law came into effect.

    Chill, man!


  8. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 11:18 am
    The SAVE Act is another piece of Republican legislation that seeks to fix a non-existent problem, like the stupid anti-Sharia Law laws that were passed after 9/11. If it passes, millions of American citizens who should be allowed to vote won't be allowed to because they weren't able to prove their citizenship.
    BULLSHIT. If you've been married, there are several things that will happen. FIRST. If a woman gets married, one of the first things she'll do is to change her name. If you don't want to change your name. No problem. If you get divorced, if you don't keep those records, then you're too STUPID to exist in a modern society. AND the GOVERNMENT HAS THESE RECORDS THROUGH DMV, BANKING, THE COURTS (yes, there are such things as copies of court documents). I can't believe how incredibly dumb your reasoning is. You honestly believe that 1. Woman can't figure out they need to keep copies.. There are no such things as electronic records. Especially if they ARE ALREADY CITIZENS, the voting information is done WITH THEIR FIRST FUCKING DRIVER'S LICENSE. I can't believe you are too clueless about knowing how your own life exists.

    ARE YOU A VOTER IN AZ? How did that happen? Think about that. SERIOUSLY ARE YOU THE ONLY PERSON MOVING FROM STATE TO STATE? ARE YOU REALLY THAT CLUELESS?

    AGAIN, your willingness to change what is said into what you (and your wife) want to CHANGE AND LIE ABOUT is phenominal.


  9. by Indy! on February 21, 2025 11:22 am

    Basically a new poll tax. The more Republicans change - the more racist they become.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2025 11:22 am

    OD,

    Donna's ilk think them d@ng darkness are too stoopid to be capable of doing what an average whitey can do in his sleep. So condescending... and convenient.


  11. by Donna on February 21, 2025 11:38 am

    No married woman should have to go through that!

    Your problem, od, is that you've bought into the ridiculous conspiracy theory that non-citizens vote.


  12. by Donna on February 21, 2025 11:49 am

    od, you asked how I was able to register to vote in AZ. I only needed my driver's license #. However, if I didn't have a driver's license, I would have been required to show them my birth certificate.


    azsos.gov


  13. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 12:46 pm
    Why wouldn't you have a Driver's Licence or ID? (not to pick a fight, sorry).
    Once you realize "why" you need a driver's license, it becomes really clear how important it is to have one. And also to keep your last one in case you lose your present ID.

    Do you have a bank account? You'd have one. Did you have a phone? You'd have one. Do you two have a car? You'd have one. BY LAW, all of these industries require (unless you have a burner phone). EVERY Financial institution (real estate, banking, + Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ALL insurances, Pawn shops, etcetcetc, require state or federal ID to do business with them. Do you collect welfare. That's been my point.

    If you have a job, you need and ID get that job, and the ID verifications can also do Background checks while giving the employer your picture ID, employee's SOC, last jobs, and sometimes criminal history and/or pending charges (generally an extra charge for different information).

    I will say the EZCheck from the feds is not used as much as it should. That is one of trumpsters things. That ALL workers need to be run through the program. Again, for agricultural folks, nail salons. restaurants, that's a maybe/maybe not.

    Again, even the woman that said it was too big of a deal to get an ID, finally got one and she spent less than 30 min at DMV.

    Hoped that helped? I used to teach financial crimes to classes nationally. We'd cover this. It became really hard to explain why a "valid" person would not have one.

    That's also a reason USBP is attempting to print and swab everyone coming through the border, which many countries are doing now. It's just good management. AND, once the immigrant is in country, it's easier for them to get an ID, since the feds already have the picture and have vetted them.


  14. by Donna on February 21, 2025 12:53 pm

    if I didn't have a driver's license - or if I didn't have an ID card.

    I've been doing a lot of reading about the SAVE Act, and there are some things in it that apparently you don't know about, olde dude. From the link below:

    Under this bill, most Americans would not be able to register to vote using their driver’s license alone, because even licenses that meet Real ID requirements do not indicate citizenship. Only a document called an
    “Enhanced Drivers License” indicates citizenship, and these are available in just five states.


    Similarly, most Tribal citizens would be unable to register using their Tribal ID alone. The SAVE Act would require Tribal ID to show the holder’s place of birth as the U.S., but most Tribal IDs do not list a place of birth. Even if the ID listed this information, any Tribal citizen born outside the U.S. could not use their Tribal ID. The SAVE Act would further burden citizens born in U.S. territories. It would allow applicants to use a photo ID that does not indicate citizenship if they also provide a certified birth certificate issued by a Tribal, state, or local government. However, the bill excludes birth certificates from American territories. Members of the U.S. military could not even use their military ID to register to vote, unless it is accompanied by their military service record and that record shows they were born in the U.S. Members of the military born overseas, including while their parents were serving abroad, could not use this type of ID.

    According to a recent study, over 9% of voting age citizens (21.3 million people) cannot readily access documentary proof of citizenship.


    campaignlegal.org


  15. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2025 1:00 pm

    Under this bill, most Americans would not be able to register to vote using their driver’s license alone, because even licenses that meet Real ID requirements do not indicate citizenship. Only a document called an
    “Enhanced Drivers License” indicates citizenship, and these are available in just five states.


    Heck, Donna,

    I needed to go to the ER a few days ago and I needed multiple forms of ID there. It was not a problem.

    Them darkies you're patronizing are as inept as you SwampDems are trying to convince yourselves they are.


  16. by Indy! on February 21, 2025 1:03 pm

    Young people are moving away from automobiles. One of my nieces is 25 and she has never driven a car. She has no desire to drive or own a car so she has no driver's license.


  17. by Donna on February 21, 2025 1:24 pm

    And probably many young Americans don't have bank accounts.

    Snopes does a good job explaining the SAVE Act and discussing controversies surrounding it.

    Btw, the state of Kansas enacted something similar to the SAVE Act in 2011.

    "The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in 2020 that the 2011 Kansas law violated not only federal law, but the 14th Amendment, which addresses citizenship rights and equal protection under the law. The Supreme Court refused to hear the case. That case's plaintiffs included five American citizens who were denied voter registration because they couldn't produce the right documents. One plaintiff was "born on a decommissioned Air Force base" and had difficulty finding his birth certificate; another "credibly testified" that paying for a new birth certificate would "impact whether she could pay rent."

    Kansas' law "grew into one of the biggest political fiascos in the state in recent memory," The Associated Press wrote. Kansas Secretary of State Steve Schwab, the state's top election official who championed the law as a legislator, "now says states and the federal government shouldn't touch it," according to the AP.

    Court documents say more than 31,000 Kansans were denied voter registration because they couldn't provide documentary proof of citizenship — representing 12.4% of new voter registrations between Jan. 1, 2013 and Dec. 11, 2015.


    snopes.com


  18. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 2:35 pm
    Young people are moving away from automobiles. One of my nieces is 25 and she has never driven a car. She has no desire to drive or own a car so she has no driver's license.

    (Read #13 since you didn't the first time) Unless she's illegal and wanted, she can get a (usually) Free or very low cost ID card.

    So you're saying she's 25, never had a job, doesn't have a bank account, doesn't pay taxes, doesn't go to school.

    So she lives without a legit income, with only enough money to put in her pockets. Doesn't have an apartment (or she's still living at home), doesn't have a legit phone from a legit phone company (at 25? WTF).

    So basically, she's living on the streets and alleys begging for food and whatever else she can get. She in San Francisco? and she sounds a lot like her uncle ernie.


  19. by Indy! on February 21, 2025 4:18 pm

    I see why you got so many things wrong about me now, Odorous. Because you read something (or more likely someone reads it to you), you don't understand it, your meds kick in and that drug addled excuse for a "brain" of yours just makes up a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with anything.

    Serious question, queenie... are you in the late stages of Alzheimer's or dementia? Because if you are - at least then you'd have an excuse for being so incredibly idiotic. 🤔


  20. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 4:36 pm
    I was just wondering if she was one of your victims.


  21. by oldedude on February 21, 2025 11:31 pm
    Donna.
    sincerely back to the thread. I have tried to 'splain the truth as I've seen it, working in that genre. Understand that I'm just trying to open up your reality. If there is more, thats fine For your "unknowingly" part of this problem.


  22. by Ponderer on February 22, 2025 5:48 am

    Court documents say more than 31,000 Kansans were denied voter registration because they couldn't provide documentary proof of citizenship — representing 12.4% of new voter registrations between Jan. 1, 2013 and Dec. 11, 2015.


    It had to be those dastardly Democrats! They're responsible for this, I tell ya whut!



  23. by oldedude on February 22, 2025 8:18 am
    So are those immigrants without citizenship? or illegal immigrants? Since you provide ZERO EFFEN CONTEXT to who they are, I'm going to "assume" they have ZERO STATUS TO VOTE IN THE US.

    I understand that you want everyone that "says" they want to vote in the US to vote. So you "want" me to vote in FL, CO, AZ, CA, and any other state I want to vote in. If I vote 200 times, that's okay in your book. Especially if it's for trumpster and DOGE. and you want me to vote in red states to turn the tide of the state. That's fair also, right?


  24. by Indy! on February 22, 2025 9:12 am

    So you are in the late stages of dementia. There are almost no examples of people voting multiple times and the few that DO exist are always MAGAts trying to get your favorite cop killer buddy (s)elected.


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