by oldedude on July 30, 2024 8:30 am
First we did missions there. I've actually seen both the west bank and the Gaza. Ditto on curt's post.
Settlements shouldn't be done. And has been a point of contention since the 1950's.
I asked for citations a couple of weeks ago. I'd be happy to see them. Just remember, I'm comparing them to 10/7. I believe that's only right considering the style and the targets in the attacks. The terrorists escalated the force and changed the style of their warfare. They can't be little bitches now and want to change back, saying "oh, just kidding!"
500 "palestinians" is one of the many issues with a terrorist/ guerilla war since they don't have a uniform and won't use a standard or a chain of command anyone else recognizes.
Generally speaking, a MAM (Military Age Male, read warfighter) is between ~17/18- 35). In the Middle East it's 12-30ish. In the Middle East culture, once a boy is circumcised, (~12 y/o) they are considered a "man." They can marry, enter contracts (although both of those have some caveats), and other things. In terrorist/ guerilla groups even out of the Middle East, these children are used as killers. They are taught to be a soldier.
My question is; what do the terrorists believe they are? Is mom a combatant? What about her son? It isn't what "we" consider them. It's what "they" consider them. And yes, I've seen both the women and child-soldiers pick up guns and try to attack convoys, etc. All the times I saw this was in the middle of a pretty hot firefight and was taking care of dead and wounded. Thank God. That's something I don't have to live with.
I still have a problem with the style of attack on 10/7. This specifically targeted civilians, as you've said. There was no military goal. Their job was to rape and murder civilians. If they had some higher goal than murdering women and children, I'd give them a break now and then. But that's not how Iran did this. Rest assure, Iran is the facilitator in this. Hamas just did their bidding.
I have an honest question for you. Why haven't the powers that be in the area, set in electric and water for the people in their country? I do understand when a country has a product they can sell across the border. Both Mexico and Canada have stations we share electric (mostly) back and forth. So why haven't the Palestinians created their own? To go back to what curt said. Hamas cares more about dead Jews, and less about their own people so they can create more martyrs.
good post, thanks.
by Donna on July 30, 2024 9:57 am
I'm not justifying Hamas, Curt. Good God, how many times to I have to condemn Hamas to penetrate your thick head?
I was adding some badly needed balance to your remarks that seem to suggest that all of the bad guys are in Israeli prisons. I'm glad that your Jewish friends enlightened you on that issue.
by Donna on July 30, 2024 10:01 am
"Why haven't the powers that be in the area, set in electric and water for the people in their country?" - od
They had clean water and electricity before Bibi blew Gaza to smithereens.
by Indy! on July 30, 2024 11:50 am
I missed this before...
No little boy, stay innocent as long as you can. But if you fuck with me, I will fuck with you back.
No you won't, OD - I'm too old for you. Kids are more your speed.
. I mean I don't really but you maybe should understand that you're nothing to them. They're using you as a "kind of" useful idiot. and you're just letting them do that so you can be cool. 