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There are interesting ramifications to today's SCOTUS decision.
By Curt_Anderson
March 4, 2024 1:33 pm
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The result could well be that a single candidate would be declared ineligible in some States, but not others, based on the same conduct (and perhaps even the same factual record).

The “patchwork” that would likely result from state enforcement would “sever the direct link that the Framers found so critical between the National Government and the people of the United States” as a whole. --US Supreme Court


Our presidential elections never have been decided by a popular vote. We have an electoral college system. For example, if nobody in Colorado voted for Donald Trump or if 49% of the voters voted for Trump, Colorado would still have ten electoral votes for Biden either way. If Trump were excluded from a few blue state ballots (or if Biden was excluded in retaliation from red state ballots), it matters not. The swing states decide the election.

Independent and third party candidates have to meet differing state requirements for ballot access (which has nothing to do with the 14th Amendment). The Supreme Court said in their ruling today that it is no longer solely the decisions of the states. Now the US Congress is the arbiter as to which candidates are allowed on the ballots of the states.

The question remains will Congress, depending on which party is in control, include or exclude certain potential spoiler candidates? For that matter, what of the candidates running under the Democratic Party or GOP banners? What would a Jim Jordan or James Comer decide?

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  1. by Indy! on March 4, 2024 1:38 pm

    Or a Hillary Clinton? Does Obama get on the ticket in 2008 if it was left up to the Hillary crowd? Judging by what she did to Bernie in '16, I'd say no.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2024 1:50 pm

    Interesting hypothetical, Curt.

    Re:"For example, if nobody in Colorado voted for Donald Trump or if 49% of the voters voted for Trump, Colorado would still have ten electoral votes for Biden either way."

    No. Not necessarily. Ask isle how it works in Maine. How the Electoral College votes are distributed is up to the states.


    This is a Republic whose Constitution lists Congress in Article 1.

    Ultimately, Congress is the most equal of the three branches. First and foremost, it's "We the people" who reign.

    The Founders didn't account for parties...AND, the Swamp is corrupt and dysfunctional.


  3. by oldedude on March 4, 2024 8:15 pm
    We have an electoral college system. For example, if nobody in Colorado voted for Donald Trump or if 49% of the voters voted for Trump, Colorado would still have ten electoral votes for Biden either way.

    Actually, that's not how Colorado's electoral college is different. If 50.1% of the national votes for trumpster, ALL votes in the states are obligated to trumpster. So it doesn't really matter how CO votes. It's the "national vote" that matters. And people wonder why I moved out.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2024 9:32 pm
    OD,
    In 48 states, including Colorado, state laws mandate that the winner of the plurality of the statewide popular vote receive all of that state's electoral votes. So it doesn't matter if a candidate loses in a close vote or by a landslide. A loss is a loss.

    The two exceptions, Maine and Nebraska, choose one elector per congressional district and 2 electors for the ticket with the highest statewide vote.
    en.wikipedia.org


  5. by oldedude on March 5, 2024 5:08 am
    Again, what you're refusing to read is that regardless of the vote in CO, all their votes go to who won the "NATIONAL" votes. That's different than who won the "state's" votes.

    So if Coloradoans vote pedojoe, but trumpster wins the national vote (but say, loses the electoral college vote) all the Colorado votes go to trumpster. That could turn the election while Coloradoans did not vote for trumpster, and pedojoe won the electoral college their votes would still go to trumpster. It's a stupid idea.


  6. by islander on March 5, 2024 6:58 am

    "Under current Colorado law, each presidential elector must vote for the presidential and vice presidential candidates who received the highest number of votes in Colorado's General Election.
    sos.state.co.us


  7. by Indy! on March 5, 2024 8:16 am

    If the Ds were smart (they're not), they would not be working to prevent Trump from getting the nod and instead looking at their own internal issues and candidate and trying to come up with something their dwindling legions might actually get behind. Looking back at history, the presidential elections the Ds won were the ones where they put forth new ideas and candidates who lied convincingly enough to fool their lemmings constituents into voting for them. (See: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama). Whenever they played the "we're better than the Rs" game or cheated their quality candidates (See: Bernie 2016) - they lost (See: Bush 41, Bush 43, Trump). It's the old adage - you can't piss on someone and call it rain.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on March 5, 2024 9:49 am

    Looking back at history, the presidential elections the Ds won were the ones where they put forth new ideas...

    Bingo.

    This time all Joe's got is, "I ain't Trump." Like them or not, the GOPs have the ideas this time."


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