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What to expect from Jim Biden's testimony before the House Oversight Committee...
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February 21, 2024 8:24 am
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...before Curt splains that there's nuthin here.

At 9:20 there's a concise summary of the circumstantial evidence that the Doddering Old Fool is a crook.

Waiting for your "final word," there, Curt...



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  1. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 9:21 am
    HtS,
    Oh, brother! I am astounded… but not surprised… by what you think is evidence.

    Jim Jordan has a pathetically weak case. Point by point: Hunter Biden has an Ivy League education and a US law degree. That’s pretty impressive in an old Soviet bloc country. He also has a famous name which he capitalized on. It is amusing how you MAGA cultist are suddenly offended and outraged by nepotism. As for Jordan’s final lame point, Google “Viktor Shokin fact check”.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 9:24 am

    Thanks. You are nuthin if not predictable.

    It's circumstantial evidence.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 9:29 am
    No, it’s not. It is not any type of evidence.


  4. by oldedude on February 21, 2024 9:53 am
    It is amusing how you MAGA cultist are suddenly offended and outraged by nepotism.

    Mainly because nepotism in the federal government is ILLEGAL. As I've said before and cited the OPM standards. The point is, pedojoe should have recused himself before his brother got the $1.5BILLION dollar contract.

    HillStone International won a coveted government contract in part because the company has “the little brother of the vice president as a partner,” as David Richter, president of HillStone’s parent company explained to investors in a recent meeting reported on by Fox Business today.

    “Since November 2010, James Biden has been the executive vice president of Hill International’s housing subsidiary despite little if any documented work history in residential construction,” Fox explains. “And if the company’s projections are accurate, both Hill and Biden are on the verge of a huge payday, beneficiaries, some analysts believe, of James Biden’s connections to the Obama Administration through his older brother.”

    washingtonexaminer.com


  5. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 9:56 am

    Y'know, Curt, as far back in my life as I can remember, it's been my instinct to attempt to achieve objectivity and to be fair and to treat people who think differently and are different than I am equitably.

    Does that impulse never enter your mind?

    Of course, it's evidence.


  6. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 10:11 am
    “Mainly because nepotism in the federal government is ILLEGAL.” —OD

    Lol! Tell that to Ivanka and Jared. Trump’s daughter-in-law is now an RNC chair…because of what qualification?

    HtS, your attempts at objectivity is a miserable, laughable failure.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 10:34 am

    Lol! Tell that to Ivanka and Jared.

    Splain how Trump being more evil Stalin justifies Joe's crimes? I still don't get that.

    Curt,

    RNC chair ain't a government position.

    HtS, your attempts at objectivity is a miserable, laughable failure.

    I don't think so. I'm, for instance, still open minded about whether or not "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" should be impeached. Even though I'm a GOP, I opposed the impeachment of Mayorkas. Actually, I think my record is rather impressive.

    And, honestly, buddy, since you never try, I don't think that you're qualified to judge someone else's attempts to achieve objectivity.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 10:49 am
    What is there to ‘splain? Even if nepotism in the federal government were illegal, Burisma is not an agency of the federal government.

    Your inability to refer to President Biden by name exposes your total lack of objectivity.


  9. by Indy! on February 21, 2024 11:07 am

    As usual, OD is having trouble with the big words. Military "training" obviously doesn't cover nepotism.

    nep·o·tism
    /ˈnepəˌtiz(ə)m/
    noun
    noun: nepotism

    the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs.


    When a brother or a son is given a job BY ANOTHER COMPANY - it is not nepotism. Sorry. And btw? I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if Biden were somehow convicted of something in these witch hunts because it might lead to some real criminals like the ones on the Supreme Court ALSO being busted for their fraud, bribery, rape and other crimes they've committed.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 11:11 am

    My inability to refer to the Flatulent Fool as President Biden reveals your lack of a sense of humor... and...

    Your inability to refer to President Biden by name exposes your total lack of objectivity.

    I've only claimed to possess the instinct to attempt to achieve objectivity, not to be objective. I'm human.

    Like all of us, I bring preferences and prejudices with me to every moment of my life. I am rare here, especially, in being open about that with others and transparent about it with myself. You seem militantly to canonize your preferences and prejudices. My take on people who do that is that never challenge themselves... and rarely grow.




  11. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 11:17 am
    HtS,
    Even if your pathological inability to refer to Biden by name was an attempt at humor, that "joke" was no longer funny after the umpteenth time.

    Btw, for your sake, I hope you didn't have high hopes about Jim Biden's testimony.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 11:34 am

    As far as Jim is concerned, back in the day, when President Biden (bahahahahahahahahahaha haha) still had a functioning brain, my sense is that the Crime Family did all it needed to do to avoid trouble.

    In fact, the only way they got in any trouble at all is because Hunter dropped off his laptop and, in his coke-haze, forgot about it. Otherwise, they're free and clear.

    If the Oversight Committee nails Jimbo at all, it'll be because of emails he sent, or illicit documents that are on the laptop.

    I'll keep my mind open. You?, you just do your usual thing. Baha.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 11:50 am
    So what would/could the committee “nail” Jim Biden on? Doing business overseas? Name dropping?


  14. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 12:08 pm

    Receiving bribes?

    My guess is that it's far less likely that Joe will be legitimately impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors as President than that he'll be found guilty of committing very serious crimes as Veep or in the time between 017 and 021.

    You've poopooed those personal checks purporting to be loan repayments but I've not seen convincing documentation for the loans Joe made that Jim and Hunter claim to be repaying.

    And, I get it. The stories the Family's telling satisfy you. Good for you. But, trust ol pb. If Trump wins in 024, my guess is that his DOJ ain't gunna wink and nod as easily as do you... and other Biden sycophants.


  15. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 12:18 pm
    A bribe? How? A bribe is money to induce some illegal activity. Jim Biden is not an elected or appointed government official.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 12:26 pm

    Bribe?

    Yeah and you know nuthin about that because HuffPo and Rachel don't bring that up. Trump and his DOJ won't rely on Rachel, if he wins.

    You're the former clerk for Chief Justice John Jay, not I. I don't know what crimes Jim might be charged with but bribery may, in the end, describe what Joe's done.

    Yet, still, Robert Hur's assessment that Joe's unconvictable because he's too frail and deranged may save him... even from Trump's Attorney General.


  17. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 1:05 pm
    HuffPost and Rachel don’t suggest Jim Biden might be guilty of accepting bribes because it would be an inane suggestion. It is an inane suggestion not because Jim Biden is necessarily beyond reproach, but because he is not a government official.

    There may be evidence, although I’m not aware of any, that James Biden acted as an unregistered lobbyist which could be illegal. But if he “lobbied” his brother from 2017 to 2021 when he was out of office, that is not lobbying. When Joe Biden was vice president he was not in a decision making role. As John Nance Garner said, the vice presidency was “not worth a bucket of warm piss”.

    To make a case for bribery there is an essential component necessary. The House Republicans would need to come up with some instance that Joe Biden caused there to be a policy that was contrary to our national interest. Spoiler alert: causing the firing of Viktor Shokin WAS in our national interest as well as the interest of much of the free world. See citations below.
    google.com


  18. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 2:11 pm
    We can safely conclude that there was no earth shaking testimony or inculpatory evidence revealed during the Jim Biden deposition. Otherwise James Comer or Jim Jordan would breathlessly have made statements to the assembled news media.
    abcnews.go.com


  19. by Ponderer on February 21, 2024 2:34 pm

    Wait... Nepotism is what now...?"


  20. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 2:46 pm

    HuffPost and Rachel don’t suggest Jim Biden might be guilty of accepting bribes because it would be an inane suggestion. It is an inane suggestion not because Jim Biden is necessarily beyond reproach, but because he is not a government official.

    As I've said, you're the expert on the law here, save for po. There's a lot to the story of Joe's alleged misdeeds that you refuse to know anything about. BTW, people who are not government officials can be bribed and the people who pay them are guilty of the crime.

    President Biden, baha baha, is under an impeachment inquiry for receiving bribes after he left office for acts he performed whole Veep. As I've said, it may be more likely that he'll be indicted for crimes rather than being impeached.

    There may be evidence, although I’m not aware of any,...

    Baha. I'm beginning to think that Unaware is your middle name.

    To make a case for bribery there is an essential component necessary. The House Republicans would need to come up with some instance that Joe Biden caused there to be a policy that was contrary to our national interest.


    And, you're telling me that you are UNAWARE that that's among the misdeeds that are the focus of GOP inquiries!!!!!?


  21. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 2:50 pm

    We can safely conclude that there was no earth shaking testimony or inculpatory evidence revealed during the Jim Biden deposition. Otherwise James Comer or Jim Jordan would breathlessly have made statements to the assembled news media.

    You know what happens when you assume, eh?

    But, yeah, right. Jim said he did nuthin wrong. That settles it, baha baha ha!


  22. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 3:09 pm
    "BTW, people who are not government officials can be bribed and the people who pay them are guilty of the crime." --HtS

    No, they cannot. Give me an example of a non-governmental official ever being found guilty of being "bribed". I'll even accept a fictitious example from a book, movie or TV show as your example. Knowing in advance that you will come up with nothing, this is why you can forget about Joe Biden being "bribed" while he was a private citizen between 2017 and 2021.

    Bribery is the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official, or other person, in charge of a public or legal duty. With regard to governmental operations, essentially, bribery is "Corrupt solicitation, acceptance, or transfer of value in exchange for official action."

    Bribery is defined generally as corrupt solicitation, acceptance, or transfer of value in exchange for official action.


    I am AWARE that you can cite exactly zero examples of evidence that Joe Biden accepted money to cause governmental policy that was contrary to America's interests.
    en.wikipedia.org
    law.cornell.edu


  23. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2024 3:51 pm

    Did you ever hear of betting scandals in which sports referees or umpires are bribed?, or one of, say, Don King's fighters takes a dive?

    Did you ever wonder why the Dallas Cowboys always get the calls?

    C'mon man. Gimme a break!
    netflix.com


  24. by Curt_Anderson on February 21, 2024 4:03 pm
    OK, I’ll give you that one. A referee or an umpire could be bribed in their capacity as a sports official. Although since sports betting is government controlled, they are acting as government officials in a "public or legal duty". So bribery is a crime limited to officials, including government officials, sports officials, maybe even officials in a religious capacity. But that does not explain your notion that James Biden might have accepted a bribe. He didn't take "a dive".


  25. by HatetheSwamp on February 22, 2024 6:48 am

    Where did pb suggest that JIM Biden was bribed?


  26. by Curt_Anderson on February 22, 2024 7:37 am
    #14. You wrote “receiving bribes”.


  27. by HatetheSwamp on February 22, 2024 8:05 am

    Touché. I'd have done better to say, receiving the bribe money.

    They were bribing the Flatulent Fool and Jim shared in the largesse. I stand corrected... sorta.


  28. by oldedude on February 22, 2024 11:51 am
    curt- What is there to ‘splain? Even if nepotism in the federal government were illegal, Burisma is not an agency of the federal government.
    OMFG🙄🤣 In the case of pedojim. pedojoe used his influence (by being the contract signatory and approval authority of this billions of $ contract) and hiring his brother. That is a crime unless pedojoe recuses himself from the action in order to show the act were free of nepotism. pedojoe is on the defense here. he actually has to show there was no nepotism in this contract.* Even obomber questioned his actions at the time.



    *using trumpster as an example. To have the contract to house diplomats at trumpster tower, the corporation had to show they are the same price, and have the same features as hotels in the area. In his case, thee property must show things like food safety and security features, vetted personnel, wing security for each one of the diplomats and their teams staying at the hotel, counter surveillance access, bullet proof windows, etc.


  29. by oldedude on February 22, 2024 12:00 pm
    curt #6-Lol! Tell that to Ivanka and Jared. Trump’s daughter-in-law is now an RNC chair…because of what qualification?
    Like I've said numerous times, charge him, put him in jail. It's that simple. Instead of kvetching, please say something useful.

    induh #9- When a brother or a son is given a job BY ANOTHER COMPANY - it is not nepotism. Sorry. And btw? I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if Biden were somehow convicted of something in these witch hunts because it might lead to some real criminals like the ones on the Supreme Court ALSO being busted for their fraud, bribery, rape and other crimes they've committed.
    read #28.


  30. by Curt_Anderson on February 22, 2024 12:24 pm
    OD,
    I will admit that I cannot follow your reasoning and explanation as to how Joe Biden's son or brother being paid by Burisma is nepotism, but I won't press you on the issue. Can we all finally agree that Joe Biden causing Viktor Shokin to be fired was at the behest of the Obama administration? Congress agreed he should go too: "...efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Services report. --Curt


    It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians.

    As European and American diplomats pressed Ukraine to clean up its corruption, they focused on Shokin's leadership of the Prosecutor General's Office, which he took over in February 2015.

    Mike Carpenter, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the then-vice president, told USA TODAY that Shokin "never went after any corrupt individuals at all" and "never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption."



    But the U.S. was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin.

    In February 2016, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40 billion unless Ukraine undertook “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption after the country’s economic minister and his team resigned to protest government corruption. That same month, a “reform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Services report.

    Shokin served as prosecutor general under Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine who fled to Russia after he was removed from power in 2014 and was later found guilty of treason. Shokin remained in power after Yanukovych’s ouster, but he failed “to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption,” according to testimony John E. Herbst, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under President George W. Bush, gave in March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

    “By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office,” Herbst testified. “U.S. Vice President Joe Biden spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv; but Mr. Shokin remained in place.”

    usatoday.com
    factcheck.org


  31. by HatetheSwamp on February 22, 2024 12:29 pm

    It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians.

    When you look up "credulous" in the dictionary. That little sketch? It's Curt.


  32. by oldedude on February 22, 2024 2:55 pm
    I will admit that I cannot follow your reasoning and explanation as to how Joe Biden's son or brother being paid by Burisma is nepotism, but I won't press you on the issue. Can we all finally agree that Joe Biden causing Viktor Shokin to be fired was at the behest of the Obama administration? Congress agreed he should go too: "...efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Services report. --Curt

    First. YOU said that, and maybe it was with Lead. I never brought up Burisma lately. I did mention james because that's so clear cut that an 8 year old should get it.

    Burisma is more of influence peddling, racketeering, and bribery. pedojoe gets pedojr to work for a third party company that you can use to get politicians to listen to you, for an unreasonable amount of money. You (the Godfather) protect them. They toss you directly or indirectly) money. or goods and services (cars, diamonds, hookers, whatever). The russians are also in on a deal. You the same for them as you expect from the Ukrainians. Their "president" wants you to move money for a dirty oligarch. You simply don't put her on the sanction list. Your person gets money, they pay you from 10-35% (whatever is agreed on).

    Shokin did mention about looking a Burisma. The Ukrainians' were worried about him, because they couldn't really control him.


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