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I won't be a bit surprised if Trump wins in this Supreme Court case
By Ponderer
February 8, 2024 10:18 am
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Just watched, well listened to the whole thing. I have to say that this is the first time I've seen A-Team performance out of a Trump attorney. He got his money's worth. If he pays him.

I've been saying all along that the real issue about all this is that he can't "hold" the office of president. Even if he's on every ballot and wins the election. He is disqualified from holding the office of president because of his having engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the the Constitution that he swore to defend, and/or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

"I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God"

That is the oath that he swore.

14th, S3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

He swore that oath to which section 3 of the 14th refers and he clearly broke in many many ways involving the Trump Insurrection.


For example, there are those among us who will argue that Donald Trump did not violate his oath by sitting on his tiny orange hands as he watched the Capitol being attacked live on TV by the very people he moments before had riled up and sent there.

The very physical seat of our Constitution that he swore to preserve, protect, and defend was under literal and violent attack, and he was the sitting president of the United States, with a fully operable telephone...

...But some among us want us to believe that doing absolutely nothing should be considered as him legitimately acting to the best of his (or any sitting president's) broad and powerful presidential abilities to stop an insurrection against our Constitution and seat of government and democracy from happening before his treasonous eyes... That he was not giving aid and comfort to the enemies of our Constitution, who were in the act of attacking it, by his deafening silence and absolute and total inaction in stopping them... And then finally telling them to go home and that he loved them. He of course didn't mean them to infer any comfort was being given to them by his proclamation of love for them. Of course.



There are those among us who want us all to believe them, and not the evidence our own eyes.



Anyway, Trump will probably appear on the Colorado ballot. And as I said, it's not the real issue anyways.

The Supremes hearing his immunity case is the playoff game I'm really gonna be watching. Trump's clock is going to be surgically sterile by the end of that one.



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Comments on "I won't be a bit surprised if Trump wins in this Supreme Court case":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on February 8, 2024 10:34 am

    Trump will lose on immunity. But, when?


  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 8, 2024 10:51 am

    MSNBC. "At least 7-2." Sour grapes but hopeful about wins in future lawfare skirmishes.

    View Video


  3. by islander on February 8, 2024 12:00 pm

    I doubt Colorado can win this case as much as I might like (emotionally) to see Trump disqualified. Even though Trump is in fact not qualified to be president either morally or ethically, in this unique situation, I don’t think he can be legally disqualified from the ballot because of that. Under existing law due the way it's worded. A great deal of semantics and too much ambiguity is involved.

    Intellectually as opposed to emotionally I think he would be soundly defeated in the general election and that would be far more devastating to him personally than if Colorado wins.

    If Colorado wins it will open up a whole can of worms and we will never see an end to Trump. We will have another 2020 and Trump can, off course, claim that the ‘other side’ fraudulently kept him off the ballot.

    I still have enough faith in the American people to believe that in a fair and honest election Trump will be defeated yet a second time if he runs again.

    And then too his ability to run again will depend on his not being convicted of a felony before the election, so either way it would be a win win for the American people and our country.



  4. by HatetheSwamp on February 8, 2024 1:52 pm

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh, isle. Did you catch the NBC Poll. "Democratic pollster Jeff Horwitt of Hart Research Associates, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff and his team at Public Opinion Strategies, says these findings reveal “a presidency in peril.” And, that's before this week's gaffes and, now, the Special Counsel report.

    Listen, buddy. I watch those MAGA rallies and I see the interviews of people in the crowd and, clearly, some of them are crazed. But, isle, that insanity can't touch yours.
    nbcnews.com


  5. by islander on February 8, 2024 2:35 pm

    Despite your severe MPD, "Mad Poll Disorder" I still have enough faith in the American people to believe that in a fair and honest election Trump will be defeated yet a second time if he runs again.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on February 8, 2024 2:46 pm

    isle,

    I hope Trump will be defeated, too. The difference between us is that I hope the Doddering Old Fool will be defeated too. Both will be a disaster. No doubt, to me anyway.


  7. by Ponderer on February 9, 2024 7:03 am

    "Despite your severe MPD, "Mad Poll Disorder" I still have enough faith in the American people to believe that in a fair and honest election Trump will be defeated yet a second time if he runs again." -Isle

    I do too, Isle. And I think he's going to be beaten even worse this time than the last.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on February 9, 2024 7:50 am

    Well, po... if the Dem smoke-filled room keeps Joe on the ticket, I agree. They'll diddle mail-in ballots and do ballot harvesting and ballot curing and Joe will win.

    The question is, do the Dem power brokers trust "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" to be da man until 029. Doubtful.

    "God save the Queen, man!" -Joe Biden, 023


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