by oldedude on January 8, 2023 3:25 am
This is a pretty good list of the negotiated terms between FC and McCarthy. I think it lays it out well and is quoted from first-year Congressman Andrew Ogles from the Tennessee Fifth District.
I know this is not complete. There were some plays to be in committees, etc, which is what the squad did to Pelosi when they came in. The difference is there were four of them, there are 20-21 so far identified in the Freedom Caucus. This is not a right or wrong, just a difference. I understand why they wanted these, and I understand why others with seniority are not happy with it (with both the squad and FC).
My view is that I like "most" of them, but there are exceptions, so I'm not hook, line, and sinker on board.
I also wanted to quote this so I'm not putting my "opinion" in this without the everyone knowing.
So the Kabuki theater played out. Each step was as choreographed as well as Swan Lake.
"Ogles informed me that what many had guessed was true. His absence from voting in a previous round was also planned. He waited to see that all was going according to plan before stepping forward to flip his vote to McCarthy after the initial round.
For Ogles, the basis of all the negotiations was to establish the rules of the game in Congress that had been altered over the years beyond recognition. As he pointed out, the rules of a game almost always determine the winner.
He shared with me a list of some of what has been roughly negotiated to date. The devil, as always, is in the details.
-As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
-A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations (presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
-Term limits will be put up for a vote.
-Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
-The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.’”
-COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
-Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same."
by HatetheSwamp on January 8, 2023 4:03 am
COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
I think either po or Donna suggested that America is safe because nuthin the House does can become law without the cooperation of the Senate.
This is where that comfort is shattered:
NOTHING "THAT FECKLESS DEMENTIA-RIDDEN PIECE OF CRAP" AND THE DEM SENATE DOES CAN BECOME LAW WITHOUT THE COOPERATION OF THE HOUSE.
So, all you progressive SwampLovers?, you can kiss Big Brother-ism goodbye...if accomplishing it requires congressional authority. So, if President Clouseau can't do it by Executive Order? Bahahahahahahahahahaha!
by oldedude on January 8, 2023 4:52 am
This has really been an issue. He wants to get rid of Title 42 so he is not obligated to close the border in any way, but he wants to keep it open to enforce mandates.
The GOP on the other hand, wants to keep Title 42, but open the US up and running without restrictions.
To both sides, you can't have both.
I think it's prudent to screen those coming in for things like TB, emphysema, HIV, Polio, and a whole bunch of other stuff you don't see often in the US, but parents aren't getting their children immunized for anymore.
Me? I'm up on my cholera, smallpox, typhoid, typhus routines if that tells you anything. My two boys are also caught up with everything but COVID. The family here is really adamantly anti-vax, which I have a problem with. I don't care for them as much as the little people. Again, people using 45 year old information and rumours.