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The Kevin McCarthy, Speaker of the House, brouhaha: Why I love (and hate) being a Republican
By HatetheSwamp
January 3, 2023 5:26 am
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From age 18 until 10 years ago?, I was a Dem. In those days, I was what a progressive was then...and, I was, more than anything, a believer in the right of the people to rule. Back in the day, the Dems was the party where that happened, by a long shot.

Holy Cow, man! Has that changed!

In the 020s, the GOP is the home of openness and inclusion and tolerance and diversity. The Dems have become the party run by bosses, the party whose members goose step to the orders of the power brokers who sit in their metaphorical Smoke-filled Room.

So, for pb, the GOP is it.

Today the Dems are fascists. The GOPs? About all those things: openness, inclusion, tolerance, diversity...

...and chaos.

The new Congress is about to launch. The GOPs are in charge of the House and they're already paralyzed. They can't choose a leader. They're openness and acceptance and inclusion and tolerance and diversitied to death.

You progressive Swampcultists love to claim that this is a democracy. It ain't. The United States is a constitutional republic. But, the GOPs, as a party, are democrats. As Lincoln said, "of the people, by the people and for the people."

The fact is that the issue with Kevin McCarthy is too many of us hate the Swamp and McCarthy stinks of Swamp. Enough of us look at him and see Mitch McConnell, the guy who caved in the last Congress to Chuck You Schumer and to the Former Trucker on the $1.8 trillion Omnibus Bill. This had to end.

So, it's likely that the GOPs'll accomplish nuthin with their control. They'll talk. They do that well. They talk loud...often at each other. There'll be hearings. But, beyond that?, chaos! And, infighting.

pb loves the commitment to principle, the honesty...

...the democracy.

Of the people, by the people and for the people.

GOPs rock!

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  1. by Donna on January 3, 2023 6:15 am

    All democracies in today's world are republics. So when we talk about "democracy", unless we're talking about, say, ancient Greece, we're always talking about democratic republics.

    Progressive Democrats and "moderate" or "centrist" Democrats, despite their differences generally get along with each other because neither side is comprised of extremists.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 6:42 am

    Donna,

    It's you progressives on SS who use the word "democracy" to describe the US. OD and pb continually take you to task.

    I couldn't disagree with you more about Dems getting along. Dems FOLLOW along, in lockstep, with party bosses. The GOPs have no one with control over their members like Chuck You does and Nancy did. Among GOPs, the people still have power...for better and for worse.

    That's how it was, 50 years ago, among Dems, when pb first registered to vote. That Dems were taken over by party bosses is why pb's a GOP. And, happily.

    Remember the SS poster formerly known as Power to the People? Today, that's pb.


  3. by Donna on January 3, 2023 7:19 am

    Continually take us to task? LOL! We've always understood your argument. But people all over the world, including many US Republicans refer to our form of government as a democracy, meaning simply that we have free elections. If you look up the word "democracy" in the dictionary, you'll find both the original meaning and the way it's commonly used now.

    Until recent years, US Republicans had no problem using the word "democracy" to describe our form of government. Apparently some Republicans started making a fuss over that, and then other Republicans followed.

    My theory is that they stopped using the word "democracy" to describe our form of government, not because it's incorrect (it isn't; the way we use it is also correct according to Merriam-Webster) but because the word "Democrat" shares its root.

    I can remember when no Republican had a problem saying that America stands for "freedom and democracy". How would Republicans like yourself say that in a way that doesn't sound awkward? What would you replace the word "democracy" with? Freedom and what?



  4. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 7:39 am

    Donna,

    Being that I'm the bubba who left the Dems because it's run by party bosses to be a GOP for the inclusion and tolerance and openness and diversity and acceptance, oh, and freethinking, I have no problem saying that the GOP stands for freedom and democracy...

    ...and, we practice both...

    ...while y'all practice your goosestepping.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 8:03 am

    BTW, Donna et.al., I watched the first hour of FOX AND FRIENDS this morning. Scott Perry, the House GOP one district west of pb, was their guest. He's a leader of the GOPs opposed to McCarthy. Steve and Brian were on him like flies on poop. Perry's issue is pure Swamp. He won't vote for McCarthy to promote conservativism!! The HatetheSwamp crowd has had waaaaaaaaaay too much of the silly Swamp games progressives and conservatives play.

    Clearly, Fox is pure Swamp.

    We are more sick of Mitch and his conservative Swamp corruption than are you Libs! There are many of us who will settle for nothing less the deconstruction of what you progressives and conservatives love with all your hearts.

    pb's happy that the HatetheSwamp crowd is drawing a line in the sand.


  6. by Donna on January 3, 2023 8:09 am

    The Republican supposed "anti-swamp" caucus is synonymous with the Trump Cult. We all saw how successful you Trumpers were last election. Please carry on.

    What on your "anti-swamp" agenda that will actually help Americans?


  7. by Curt_Anderson on January 3, 2023 10:43 am
    HtS,
    You are doing an admirable job, and as good as anybody could hope to do in your attempt to polish a turd. The House Republicans are a dumpster fire. George Santos is a embarrassment. Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert are taking prominent roles. On the GOP side of Congress, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 11:10 am

    Donna,

    Trump supports McCarthy for Speaker. These antiSwampers ain't Trump goose-steppers.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 11:13 am

    Curt,

    You're right...from your point of view.

    Government of the people, by the people and for the people would be scary and, no doubt, repulsive for you.

    But, it's we.


  10. by Donna on January 3, 2023 11:35 am

    LOL! So far, Jefferies is beating McCarthy by 6 votes.


  11. by Donna on January 3, 2023 11:40 am

    If just one Republican had voted for Jeffries, he'd be the next SOTH. Wouldn't that have been funny?!


  12. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 11:46 am

    I thought Jeffries got 212 votes.

    I can't imagine GOPs voting for Jeffries. They'd vote for po first!


  13. by Donna on January 3, 2023 11:56 am

    I was wrong on that. Jeffries needed 6 more votes, not 1.

    Understanding the extreme nature of the anti-McCarthy contingent, I don't see McCarthy ever getting enough votes to be elected SOTH.



  14. by Curt_Anderson on January 3, 2023 1:38 pm
    The GOP now looks unprepared to govern. Bryan Kilmeade said on Fox:
    "Can anyone...you can not take this job if it's about your ego and your own personal agenda. The whole thing should be serviced for the country. And the subset is your party. Please explain to me how this helps your party. You look like idiots in front of the country."


  15. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 1:45 pm

    It seems that the two sides among the GOPs are getting increasingly animated in their bitterness toward each other. I also can't see enough of those 19 swinging to McCarthy. The antis are voting for Jordan who supports McCarthy. Scalise could, in time, appeal to both sides.

    He's an almost martyr, being shot by a bonkers Bernie supporter.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on January 3, 2023 1:48 pm

    Quoting Fox again, eh, Curt? Was that on FOX AND FRIENDS or Kilmeade's radio program?

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha heeheeheeheeheeheehee, ahhhhhhhhhhh!


  17. by Donna on January 3, 2023 3:39 pm

    The GOP definitely isn't endearing itself to American voters, particularly indies.


  18. by Donna on January 4, 2023 2:08 pm

    I've been hearing from some political observers that the reason Kevin McCarthy hasn't been voted in as SOTH is because 10% of House Republicans don't trust him. One of the examples I heard of why they don't trust him is something he said during an appearance he made on Sean Hannity 7 years ago when he talked about how he was going to be different as SOTH and then proceeded to give away the real reason they called Hillary Clinton to testify in front of the Benghazi Special Committee:

    "What you're gonna see is, a conservative speaker, that takes a conservative Congress, that puts a strategy, to fight and win. And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi Special Committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? 'Cause she's untrustable [sic]. But no one woulda known any of that had happened, had we not fought and made that happen."







  19. by Donna on January 4, 2023 2:09 pm

    Here's the link to that interview:

    youtube.com


  20. by oldedude on January 4, 2023 2:54 pm
    There were rumours this evening that talked about McCarthy actually going over to the dims and making deals. This is a career ender if he does. That means he owes the dims "favors," which makes sense they'll come to get those favors.


  21. by HatetheSwamp on January 4, 2023 3:22 pm

    OD,

    I was listening to that gay Guy Curt never heard of this afternoon. He talked with Dan Crenshaw R-TX. Crenshaw is a huuuuuuuuuge McCarthy supporter. I took two realities from the interview.

    1. Crenshaw is reeeeeeeeeeally pi$$ed at the people voting against McCarthy. Reeeeeeeeeeally! He's not alone. There's a lot of antipathy toward people who won't anoint the guy from California.

    2. He said that t'other side had better fall in line, and soon, or there will be outreach to moderate Dems (ain't that an oxymoron, eh?).

    I agree. McCarthy's politically dead if he tries it.

    Following this as closely as I am, I think it's as simple as there are 20-ish GOPs who are voting no to McCarthy. There's no one they're for. They're against McCarthy. It's like people voting for "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap." Few people were actually stoopid enuff to be for the Flatulent Fool. But, they were against Trump.

    And, the GOPs voting against McCarthy are small government/libertarians. They're in no hurry at all to get this resolved.


  22. by Curt_Anderson on January 4, 2023 3:27 pm
    Nancy Pelosi is likely experiencing schadenfreude.

    CNN) House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy joked at a Saturday night event that it "will be hard not to hit" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi with the speaker's gavel if Republicans take control of the chamber in the 2022 midterms and he becomes speaker.

    "I want you to watch Nancy Pelosi hand me that gavel. It will be hard not to hit her with it," McCarthy said in audio posted to Twitter by a Main Street Nashville reporter.


  23. by Donna on January 4, 2023 3:30 pm

    If the next presudential election were held today, I think Biden would win fairly handily.


  24. by HatetheSwamp on January 5, 2023 3:16 am

    I disagree. Do you know that, according to RCP and all the polls it tracks, including all the wacked Dem polls, the last poll in which "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" had positive approval was taken more than a year ago!!!!!? Not a single plus poll in 022!

    Run Joe, run!!!!!
    realclearpolitics.com


  25. by Donna on January 5, 2023 6:53 am

    After doing a little research, it looks like you're right, Hts. Every article I've seen discusses recent polling which shows that if the election were held now, DeSantis would likely beat Biden. Polling also shows that DeSantis would probably beat Trump for the GOP nomination, but polling also shows that Biden would likely beat Trump if he were to win the nomination.

    newsweek.com


  26. by HatetheSwamp on January 5, 2023 7:04 am

    Donna,

    There will be numerous news cycles between now and then and the Biden Crime Family hearings will have happened. How they come out will have a lot to do with the 024 election outcome. Based on what Musk's releasing in dribbles, it appears that House GOPs will have a lot of material to work with.


  27. by Donna on January 5, 2023 7:47 am

    I'm glad they'll be doing that. It'll yet be another thing that'll be certain to turn off most Americans.


  28. by oldedude on January 5, 2023 8:14 am
    You mean like the relentless persecution of Trump without any results?


  29. by Ponderer on January 5, 2023 8:33 am

    "You mean like the relentless persecution of Trump without any results?" -olde dude

    od, you're so impatient!

    The indictments, trials, convictions, and sentencing are coming. Very likely early this year. So don't worry!

    Donald Trump will be justifiably sentenced to prison time for some of his multitude of felonious crimes. And the vast majority of the country will be quite overjoyed about it. Most Americans have been strongly turned of by his career criminality and are hoping for him to be made to face justice.


  30. by HatetheSwamp on January 5, 2023 8:40 am

    The indictments, trials, convictions, and sentencing are coming. Very likely early this year. So don't worry!

    "Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow
    You're always a day away," eh?


  31. by Ponderer on January 5, 2023 8:47 am

    No. It was never "a day away". It was never going to happen quickly. No one has ever expected it to.


  32. by Ponderer on January 5, 2023 8:48 am

    ...But the day will come, Bill.


  33. by Donna on January 5, 2023 9:21 am

    No, od. Adding to what my wife said, most political commentators have credited the Jan6 hearings for being part of the reason the so called Red Wave turned out to be a Pink Ripple.



  34. by Ponderer on January 5, 2023 9:52 am

    od, Donna was talking about the people who were turned off by all the asinine Republican MAGA Cult Trumpist clowns their party was offering them.

    Had they not been turned off by nonsensical, deranged candidates, the GOP may well have seen the big wave they otherwise logically expected, and this multi-day circus wouldn't have turned the House into a Big Top.


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