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J6 investigative committee recommends that Trump be charged with four crimes.
By Curt_Anderson
December 19, 2022 12:05 pm
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This is the first time Congress recommended that a former president be charged with crimes. It's also the first time Congress needed to.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol voted Monday to send to Justice Department prosecutors a recommendation that former president Donald Trump be charged with four crimes: inciting or assisting an insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, conspiracy to defraud the United States and conspiracy to make a false statement.

No matter what the DOJ does the committee's recommendations matter. It matters to history. It matters to future presidents and politicians who might consider committing similar crimes as did Trump and his cohorts.

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  1. by Ponderer on December 19, 2022 1:53 pm

    Those four are an excellent start for the DOJ, Curt. They will likely have dozens of other felony charges to add yet themselves in time.

    I'm fairly confident that the DOJ will do its sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution by eventually dumping a truckload of indictments, convictions, and years-long sentences on that traitor's fat head.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on December 19, 2022 2:15 pm
    Not to mention a load of indictments that will land on his co-conspirators. The J6 committee referred to them as "John Eastman and others".

    Also state bar associations will be looking at the evidence that the committee will be making public and deciding if the election denying lawyers advising Trump deserve to keep their law licenses.

    Apart from January 6th riots, there is the mishandling and theft of classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago and the charges coming out of the grand jury in Georgia.


  3. by oldedude on December 19, 2022 9:07 pm
    They haven't been able to show this in a kangaroo court. What do you expect now? I want facts to back up your assertions.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on December 19, 2022 9:26 pm
    "I want facts to back up your assertions." ---OD

    No you don't.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2022 3:56 am

    Yes he does!

    Curt, considering the Stalinesque nature of the J6 Committee hearings and investigation, I don't think anything developed by the Committee can be trusted to be fact.

    My guess is that OD understands that perfectly.


  6. by oldedude on December 20, 2022 7:45 am
    Yes, actually I would like to see what J6 committee has articulatable facts to back up their claims. Or, on the other hand they have nothing but their "feelings" to go to court with. If you can't, just say so and we'll move on. I haven't heard anything that I would even think of taking to court, but I'm open to being wrong and I may have missed something.

    Make sure that if you talk about delays, etc, there is caselaw to compare with. These don't have to be precise, just so and so was jailed for the same offense, and that it was illegal.


  7. by Donna on December 20, 2022 9:15 am

    The timeline of events on 1/6/21 are damning enough to indict Trump & Co.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on December 20, 2022 10:21 am
    There is enough evidence to charge Trump on four things:

    Obstruction of an official proceeding; “You need to fight like hell to save our country!”
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States; “All you need to find is 11,780 votes”
    Conspiracy to make a false statement; and “ I was ready to win the election and frankly I did win”
    Conspiracy to defraud the U.S. by assisting, aiding or comforting those involved in an insurrection. after three hours of rioting, Trump makes an announcement. “… go home. We love you.”

    I paraphrased from memory but you can find the exact quotes online.


  9. by oldedude on December 20, 2022 1:45 pm
    That's undisputedly, the worst go-to for an actual crime I've ever seen, or heard of. The first one you can take back to almost every underdog politician in the US. You need to charge every dim mouthpiece in the 2022 elections of the same crime. Same pretty much with the second one. WTFO?

    The third one dillusional, but "illegal?" If that's your standard, pedojoe, cliton, cliton, and every other politician that's been elected is guilty. Show me how this is different than 15 deaths of Marines in Kabul. Or knowingly allowing Marines and their families drink poisoned water for decades? Or there's nothing wrong with the border, or I didn't have sex with that woman," or "“With all due respect, the fact is, we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or because of guys out for a walk one night who decide to kill some Americans, what difference at this point does it make?" More from hill... On a visit to war-torn Bosnia in 1996, she claimed she and her entourage landed under sniper fire and had to run “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base” — although videos of her arrival show her waltzing serenely across the tarmac, waving to the crowd.

    She blamed the 2012 attack on American diplomatic and intelligence-gathering installations in Benghazi on “a disgusting video” when she knew almost from the first moment that it was a jihadist assault that took the lives of four Americans, including the ambassador to Libya.

    The fourth one? That's just whaked out. Again, where are your predicate acts. Who did he give aid and comfort to in saying that? How was that aid and comfort given? If your interpretation of the law is true, You, donna, pondy, indy, and isle are guilty of conspiring to do treasonous acts by answering questions on this site that support acts of violence, or illegal activity.


  10. by Donna on December 20, 2022 2:18 pm

    Hillary Clinton answered questions for 11 hours. Didn't take the fifth once. And the bipartisan committee led by Republicans didn't find her guilty of anything.


  11. by Ponderer on December 20, 2022 2:58 pm

    "I want facts to back up your assertions." -od

    You say that. But do you though?

    Have you even watched more than eight seconds of any of the hearings, od? If you wanted to see facts, they have been quite public in presenting the facts and evidence that they collected that spells it all out very clearly. I'm sure even you could understand it for what it is if you simply chose to ever expose yourself to any of it.


  12. by Ponderer on December 20, 2022 3:01 pm

    I'm going to prognosticate that there will end up being at least 20 more recommendations for criminal proceedings for many of his accomplices who pleaded the Fifth during these hearings.



  13. by oldedude on December 20, 2022 3:23 pm
    I did, and I didn't see admissible facts that could be used in court. You may "feel" you're justified. but when it comes to court, there has to be an equivalency to it. He lied. duh. pedojoe lies too. and I spent two paragraphs that apparently didn't read on cliton. He "rallied" supporters. The same way politicians have done since the job and leadership were invented.

    Again, what Curt put out there, if used in the way he wanted to, thousands of politicians should be arrested for the same thing. Again, if this were pedojoe with the same information, I would say the same thing. And I'd probably be called the same things you're going to call me. So I'm just prepared for that.


  14. by oldedude on December 20, 2022 3:26 pm
    "Hillary Clinton answered questions for 11 hours. Didn't take the fifth once. And the bipartisan committee led by Republicans didn't find her guilty of anything."

    Actually, as my post illustrated, she may have spent 11 hours, but didn't answer anything worthwhile. Did she lie per se? I think she was on the line, but most of it was diversion and talking about whatever she wanted until the person's time ran out.


  15. by Ponderer on December 20, 2022 4:05 pm

    "I did, and I didn't see admissible facts that could be used in court." -od

    Wow.

    Is your blindness entirely wilful or is it honestly congenital?

    There are many tons of actionable facts and evidence that was presented. Trump provided much of it himself on live network television well before the hearings even started.


  16. by Ponderer on December 20, 2022 4:08 pm

    "Actually, as my post illustrated, she may have spent 11 hours, but didn't answer anything worthwhile." -od

    What do you think was keeping the GOP investigators and committee members from asking her anything worthwhile?


  17. by oldedude on December 20, 2022 6:08 pm
    They did ask her very point questions. She didn't answer them.


  18. by Ponderer on December 21, 2022 8:22 am

    "They did ask her very point questions. She didn't answer them." -od



    In a pig's eye she didn't.



    And so then how many times did they charge her for contempt for refusing to answer questions under oath if she didn't answer them?

    You and the GOP simply did not like the truthful answers she gave. The truth was unfortunately of no use to you or them, so you want to pretend that she didn't answer at all.

    Classic.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on December 21, 2022 8:39 am

    So, OD, do you still support and defend Trump in the many felonies he committed which po singlehandedly invested, prosecuted, adjudicated and passed judgment on?

    Hmmmm. Shame on (effin) you!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!


  20. by oldedude on December 29, 2022 8:37 pm
    "There are many tons of actionable facts and evidence that was presented. Trump provided much of it himself on live network television well before the hearings even started."

    "Actionable" is very different than ADMISSIBLE. Had you actually known anything about how to proceed with a case, you would have known. Is it state? or is it a federal charge? It all makes a difference. I'm sorry, yes. You would think it's a play on words. It isn't. Legally, they're two entirely different things.


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