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Jan 6th Hearings #3

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June 16, 2022 10:24 am
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Are you watching. I'm trying but I'm not sure I can stick with it.



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  1. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 12:08 pm
    Today's hearing is making the point that Eastman's interpretation of the the Electoral Count Act of 1887 is not only legally wrong and historically wrong, it defies commonsense. Greg Jacobs, Pence's attorney, even got Eastman to admit his legal theory didn't hold water. Otherwise past vice presidents would always "count" the votes so that they would elect themselves or political allies as president. Obviously Al Gore or Nixon in 1960 would have awarded themselves the presidency if that were a viable and constitutional option.




  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 12:20 pm

    Right, Curt. Do you think the Committee gets it that no one, apart from Trump and, perhaps a half dozen in the whole country, believe what Trump tried is valid?

    Do you think that the Committee knows that Joe's election was confirmed by Congress on the intended day, and that he has been inaugurated and mundanely, without incident?

    I tried watching. I found it painful.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 12:25 pm
    I don't think that even Trump believed it was a constitutional and legitimate option. Trump doesn't care about such niceties as legalities.


  4. by islander on June 16, 2022 1:35 pm
    I watched the entire hearing just as I did the first two. It was somewhat painful to try and listen to Judge Michael Luttig but well worth the time it took to hear what this brilliant was wise man had to say, especially his remarks at the end

    "Retired Judge J. Michael Luttig testified under oath before the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack on Thursday that the former president, Donald Trump, and his MAGA supporters are a “clear and present danger to American democracy.”

    Luttig, a highly-respected conservative attorney and a former federal judge on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, advised then-Vice President Mike Pence that the John Eastman scheme to overturn the 2020 presidential election was illegal.

    “I have written, as you said, Chairman Thompson, that today – almost two years after that fateful day in January of 2021 – that still, Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy.”

    “That’s not because of what happened on January 6. Is because to this very day, the former president, his allies and supporters, pledge that in the presidential election of 2024 if the former president or his anointed successor as the Republican Party presidential candidate were to lose that election that they would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election, but succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020.”

    Luttig goes on to say, “I would have never have spoken those words ever in my life except that that’s what the former president and his allies are telling us.”




  5. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 2:57 pm

    The Supreme Court would have not let Trump get away with his 020 malarkey. Heck! They didn't even take his legitimate challenges to fraud-laced ballot counts.

    We have three branches of government...or we will until you Blue MAGA Swampcultists kill off all the judges you don't like.


  6. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 3:23 pm
    Perhaps the greatest damage to democracy that Donald Trump has accomplished is that he's managed to bamboozle a significant portion of the population into thinking there is a good reason to doubt the legitimacy of the past election and future elections.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 3:34 pm

    No, Curt. The convicted vote fraud Dems in Arizona and the Delaware County, Pennsylvania whistle-blower, et.al. convinced us.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 4:01 pm
    HtS,
    All of that has been fact checked and debunked repeatedly. Btw, even without Arizona and Pennsylvania, Biden wins. If the PA and AZ vote recounts and "forensic audits" had gone your way, Trump still loses. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own math.

    If Trump had not been attempting to hold onto power and making money fooling the gullible with his election fraud claims, you wouldn't have doubted the election results. Nor would there be Republicans running for office now on an election fraud platform.
    factcheck.org
    usatoday.com
    factcheck.org
    factcheck.org


  9. by islander on June 16, 2022 4:06 pm

    Hate the Swamp wrote; "We have three branches of government...or we will until you Blue MAGA Swampcultists kill off all the judges you don't like"

    Are you upset because the distinguished (R) Judge Luttig accurately called you out (you being a Trump enabler) as a "“clear and present danger to American democracy” (I know that you even object to the word democracy), or do you dislike that he is what I call a genuine conservative Republican, what Republicans used to be, or that he is as you call them, a Rhino Maga Swampcultist?


  10. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 4:18 pm

    It's Rino.

    "Republican in name only."


  11. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 4:31 pm

    Curt,

    Common sense told me from the beginning that "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" could only win through shenanigans.

    Have you noticed how much better the Doddering Old Fool did in purple states with Dem governors, like Pennsylvania and Michigan and got skunked in Ohio and Florida.
    spectator.org


  12. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 4:36 pm
    And Biden won in Arizona and Georgia where they have Republican governors. What's your point?


  13. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2022 4:40 pm

    As we know, Dems have been convicted for 020 election fraud in Arizona. Georgia? A paper thin margin in a purple state. Perhaps a legitimate win for the Flatulent Fool. Perhaps.

    Face it. "That feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" victory will always be tainted and doubted by many of us.


  14. by islander on June 16, 2022 4:47 pm

    "Common sense told me from the beginning that "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" could only win through shenanigans."

    Well that's your problem...The one thing you make obvious here is that you are severely lacking in common sense.

    It might help if you payed more attention to what's being revealed in these hearings...but then I don't really know if a person can increase their innate common sense.


  15. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2022 4:58 pm
    It amuses me that HtS pretends to be oblivious to Trump's crimes. HtS can only lob ageist ad hominems at Biden. Biden is fundamentally decent and moral while Trump is indecent and amoral. HtS must hate that.


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