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Prosecution eviscerates a main defense argument.
By Curt_Anderson
May 28, 2024 6:15 pm
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Defense argues that Michael Cohen's call to Trump was too short to have discussed Stormy Daniels hush money
Todd Blanche is now mocking Michael Cohen’s testimony about the evening of Oct. 24, 2016. This was testimony on which the defense lawyers felt they had scored a key point, because they found evidence that Cohen had talked to Keith Schiller, Trump's bodyguard, about a 14-year-old who was pranking him. Cohen later testified that he had talked to both Schiller and Trump during the call [phone records show it lasted 96 seconds].

But the defense clearly thinks it has a winning argument here. “It was a lie,” Blanche yells of Cohen’s testimony that he talked to Trump about the hush-money payment that night. He follows up by calling it “perjury,” emphasizing each syllable in the word.

Prosecution theatrically illustrates that there was plenty of time to discuss the Stormy Daniels hush money
Steinglass just started a timer and pretended to have the exact same conversation, adding plenty of asides and silences as he played the role of Cohen, talking first to Schiller and then to Trump.

The call felt as if it lasted a long time. But when Steinglass stopped the timer, it had only been about 49 seconds, significantly less time than the call in question. The point he was seeking to illustrate was simple: That Cohen could have easily talked to both men, just like he testified.

This was a real piece of showmanship — clever and useful at the same time. Moments like these show Steinglass’s experience, as a longtime trial lawyer who can lean into the innate theatricality of the role.


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Comments on "Prosecution eviscerates a main defense argument.":

  1. by Indy! on May 28, 2024 9:06 pm

    If it does not fit in a 96 second phone call - you might have to acquit.

    🤔

    Not as catchy as Johnny Cochran's version.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on May 29, 2024 3:48 am

    Rotflol. Baha baha baha, ha.

    Some on Fox reported that Andrew Giuliani, who was in the courtroom, was watching the jury and observed at least seven jurors who appeared to be unreceptive to the prosecutor during closing arguments.

    More convincingly, pb's Legal Goober #1 says that when he was in court, the jurors' body language suggested to him that this is the type of jury that could hang. (See link)

    View Video


  3. by Curt_Anderson on May 29, 2024 9:19 am
    Jonathan Turley said last night that any chance of aquittal has “vanished”. This morning Trump said Mother Theresa couldn’t beat these charges.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on May 29, 2024 9:32 am

    Link?

    But, no conservative I know ever dreamed of an acquittal... not with this judge.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on May 29, 2024 9:37 am

    Curt,

    I follow Turley on X. He tweets a lot. Here's the closest thing I've found to your claim.

    "...So four can find a state election violation, four can find a federal election violations and four can find tax violations and it will still be treated as a unanimous verdict."

    Unabashed unfairness.

    Trump still hasn't been charged with a single crime. EFFINamazing@


  6. by Indy! on May 29, 2024 10:03 am

    Federal campaign finance violation is the charge according to a google search.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on May 29, 2024 10:08 am
    HtS,
    Sean Hannity interviewed Turley after the closing arguments. It was on the FOX News website. That's when he said acquittal chances had "vanished". Trump made his dour comments this morning.

    Not just about this case, I have heard lawyers say often that juries are inscrutable. So I don't put much stock in reading their body language, etc.

    Incidentally Judge Merchan instructed the jury that Cohen is considered "an accomplice" and under NY law, jurors cannot solely rely on his testimony. In other words, they have to look at other evidence and apply their commonsense.


  8. by Ponderer on May 29, 2024 3:55 pm

    Right, Curt. And there's tons of other prosecution evidence and testimonies that corroborate the truth of what Cohen testified to anyways. The fact that they want to see the transcripts of Pecker and Cohen's testimonies, likely to compare them and reacquaint themselves to, is a good sign for the prosecution I think. They both, and others, said the same things so it's all corroborated.

    But the jurors could entirely ignore every word out of Cohen's mouth and still have gobs of evidence and corroborating testimonies to find Trump guilty on at least several counts against him.

    As I feel confident that they will. It's kind of difficult to imagine that anyone who has paid even the least amount of attention to the facts of this case and these proceedings, let alone as much attention as the jurors have been paying, could construct even a rational comparison to a reasonable doubt about Trump's guilt in the crimes he is on trial for.



  9. by HatetheSwamp on May 29, 2024 4:31 pm

    po,

    Right, Curt. And there's tons of other prosecution evidence and testimonies that corroborate the truth of what Cohen testified to anyways.

    Give us just three for instances.

    As I feel confident that they will. It's kind of difficult to imagine that anyone who has paid even the least amount of attention to the facts of this case and these proceedings, let alone as much attention as the jurors have been paying, could construct even a rational comparison to a reasonable doubt about Trump's guilt in the crimes he is on trial for.

    I've pointed out many times in the past, all of us bring our preferences and prejudices to every moment of our lives. Curt, the SS authority on Fox News, can tell you. There's been a ripple within right-wing media today that one of the jurors regularly established eye contact with Trump's team in court and, as we all know, it only takes one.

    From just about the beginning of the trial, it occurred to me that an enterprising juror could make an EFFINfortune by hanging the jury. Imagine the book deal! TV specials. The payment for movie rights to "My Trump Trial Story." Do you honestly think that is beyond the realm of possibility?

    And, there's this: This Lawfare deal has been political solid gold for "the Orange Turd."

    Did you happen to check the Doddering Old Fool's 538 approval rating today!!!!!?

    I'm seeing this as a win/win for Trump.

    projects.fivethirtyeight.com


  10. by oldedude on May 29, 2024 6:22 pm
    I'm still waiting for the law he broke.


  11. by oldedude on May 29, 2024 6:33 pm
    Federal campaign finance violation is the charge according to a google search.

    A state doesn't have the right to charge a strictly federal crime. AND the Federal Election Commission (FEC) looked at it and would not charge. What else ya got?


    FEC drops investigation into Trump hush money payments


    The Federal Elections Commission (FEC) has closed its investigation into whether former President Trump illegally made hush money payments to women prior to the 2016 election.

    The FEC voted 4-1 to close the inquiry after failing to find that Trump or his campaign “knowingly and willfully” violated campaign finance law when his former attorney Michael Cohen paid $130,000 to porn star Stormy Daniels to keep her from disclosing an alleged affair.

    Cohen was convicted in 2018 of lying to Congress, tax evasion and other charges relating to the payments to Daniels and other women. He served three years in prison.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on May 30, 2024 6:15 am

    Turley: "More likely a hung jury."

    This is tough for ole pb. pb's "fourth Goober," po, thinks a conviction is a done deal.


    View Video


  13. by Ponderer on May 30, 2024 11:38 am

    A landslide I'm tellin' ya.


  14. by HatetheSwamp on May 30, 2024 11:55 am

    po,

    Let me start off with two words: I support Biden. I support Biden.

    I sure hope you're right. I'm with Joe. I'm "ready to choose freedom over democracy."

    Asufutimaehaehfutbw!

    But, I'm less confident than I was before this trial started.

    Can you help me out!!!!!?

    View Video


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