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Indy! was right about the pitfalls of paying “volunteers” to knock on doors.
By Curt_Anderson
October 19, 2024 9:41 am
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Revealed: Trump ground game in key states flagged as potentially fake
Data suggests canvassers linked to Elon Musk’s America Pac falsely claimed to have visited homes of potential voters

Hugo Lowell
Sat 19 Oct 2024 11.30 ED
Donald Trump’s campaign may be failing to reach thousands of voters they hope to turn out in Arizona and Nevada, with roughly a quarter of door-knocks done by America Pac flagged by its canvassing app as potentially fraudulent, according to leaked data and people familiar with the matter.

The potentially fake door-knocks – when canvassers falsely claim they visited a home – could present a serious setback to Trump as he and Kamala Harris remain even in the polls with fewer than 20 days to an election that increasingly appears set to be determined by turnout.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on October 19, 2024 10:10 am

    It's a potential problem. Keep hopin. This is pretty much what the Hillary crew was counting on in 016.

    Ryan Girdusky, whom I have cited in the past and called "a poor man's Nate Silver," sees a similar potential problem.

    However, here, critical Pennsylvania, the GOPs are doing a faaaaaar better job of chasing the vote than they did in both 016 and 020.

    What they won't do is engage in the hijinks and shenanigans that Dems in Philly and some nearby counties do as a matter of course.


  2. by Donna on October 19, 2024 10:14 am

    There's a pro-Harris organization that pays door-to-door canvasers $25/hr. I spoke to one of those canvasers when he was on our street last week. He was actually doing the work he was being paid to do.

    I volunteered to phone bank, and I"ll be doing that today between noon and 3pm. Never done it before.



  3. by Curt_Anderson on October 19, 2024 10:23 am
    Donna, 👍 for your phone-bank work! My wife and I have donated a lot more to Harris than we ever have any other candidate or political cause.


  4. by Donna on October 19, 2024 10:29 am

    "What they won't do is engage in the hijinks and shenanigans that Dems in Philly and some nearby counties do as a matter of course." - Hts

    A couple of years ago, you actually discussed some of the evidence you and other MAGAs interpreted as hijinks, but it was clear that you misinterpreted your findings, which is exactly what happened when Trump and Giuliani falsely accused those two GA election workers of suspicious activity which caused them to have to go into hiding because of the death threats that ensued.

    You have nothing. The problem is that you're a moron, and the lies you spread actually hurt people who did nothing wrong.






  5. by Donna on October 19, 2024 10:31 am

    Thank you, Curt. Good on you and your wife! We also donated to the Harris and Ruben Gallego campaigns.


  6. by Indy! on October 19, 2024 11:02 am

    Thanks for the props, Curt. Not to brag, but I also nailed this one...

    "...with fewer than 20 days to an election that increasingly appears set to be determined by turnout."

    I've been saying from day 1 - turnout is the key to a D victory because all the lemmings on the right are going to vote for Trump no matter what (as we see from peebs and OD already voting for Pharaoh Fatso.)


  7. by Donna on October 19, 2024 12:53 pm

    I just took the tutorial for phone banking and decided against it. It's confusing, it's not my thing, and I'd stink at it. I'll leave the phone banking to those who sincerely like doing it.



  8. by oldedude on October 19, 2024 1:23 pm
    donna- mea culpa above. sorry about that.


  9. by Curt_Anderson on October 19, 2024 1:25 pm
    I don’t like speaking on the phone to anybody even people I know. My voice mail says “text me”. So I totally understand your decision, Donna. In person, I have no problems btw.


  10. by Donna on October 19, 2024 1:47 pm

    I really enjoy conversing in person too, Curt, but like you, I don't enjoy talking on the phone, even with people I know and love. I also don't like getting phone calls or knocks on my door from people who are trying to sell me something or sell me on something, so naturally I don't like doing that to others. Ponderer feels the same way.

    Okay, olde dude. You really need to work on that hair trigger of yours, though.



  11. by Curt_Anderson on October 19, 2024 1:53 pm
    Incidentally, polling organizations have called me recently. I ignored them. “No, I don’t want to share my opinion”


  12. by HatetheSwamp on October 19, 2024 1:57 pm

    My wife grooves on banking by phone. She goes to bed about 8ish and often begins her day before 5 a.m.. This morning she paid all our bills before 6. We get to a brick and mortar bank three or four times a year.


  13. by Indy! on October 19, 2024 2:20 pm

    I don't like talking on the phone either. Due to that, most people I know will only call when it's really necessary.

    Peebs... internet banking. Give it a shot - so much easier. Putting aside a couple bank trips with my luddite father, last time I was in a bank was like 2+ years ago. Used an ATM once in 2021. When you give up spending cash - you don't need to actually visit a bank.


  14. by Donna on October 19, 2024 2:25 pm

    I did sign up to be a poll watcher on election day, though. I'm actually looking forward to that.


  15. by Indy! on October 19, 2024 4:15 pm

    Good luck with Trump's poll patrols.


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