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I rescinded Godwin’s Law here long ago because of statements like this:
By Curt_Anderson
October 7, 2024 11:08 am
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Former President Donald Trump used increasingly harsh rhetoric to attack immigrants, suggesting on Monday during an interview that immigrants commit horrendous crimes because “it’s in their genes.”

“How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,” he told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.

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  1. by Ponderer on October 7, 2024 11:10 am

    Despicable.

  2. by HatetheSwamp on October 7, 2024 11:27 am

    And this is a substantial reason that I HatetheSwamp.

    That gay Guy Curt never heard of is introducing today's show on X thusly:

    SURPRISED? Kamala Harris' weekend media blitz was LOADED with word salads, shallow answers, and flat-out lies.

    I'm convinced that KK's and TT's lies are far more outrageous than Trump's. Hence Trump's ten point jump on Polymarket since last Tuesday.

    I won't vote for OrangeTurdBad or the Dingbat!...

    ... and, neither should you.

  3. by Curt_Anderson on October 7, 2024 11:37 am
    Ok, HtS, give us one example of a "flat out lie" she uttered during her weekend media blitz. But I assume you are lying and there are no such examples.

    As for word salads and shallow answers, they are in the ear of the beholder. For dogs, cats and retarded people practically everything said is a "word salad". When a politician doesn't give a shallow answer they are accused of issuing word salads.


  4. by Indy! on October 7, 2024 11:43 am

    Trump has divided America into two groups - smart people and MAGAts living off smart people.

  5. by HatetheSwamp on October 7, 2024 11:54 am

    "Ok, HtS, give us one example of a "flat out lie" she uttered during her weekend media blitz."

    You're kidding. Right?

    You'll have to take it up with your gay gut. But, she rarely says anything true about Trump...

    ... and I don't think TT knows how to be honest or tell the truth and if you don't know that, you're so much in prison to the preferences and prejudices that you bring with you to every moment of your life, you are in solitary.

  6. by Curt_Anderson on October 7, 2024 12:01 pm
    HtS,
    You cannot cite a single lie. That's no surprise. Just as I predicted. Apparently Harris's media blitz this weekend wasn't "loaded" with lies after all.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on October 7, 2024 12:28 pm

    Curt,

    Of course I can. But, I quoted that gay Guy you never heard of. I missed the first part of his monolog, but he's ripping her to shreds.

    But, me?, off the top?

    Kammy's saying that Trump supports a nationwide ban on abortion. LIE.

    The Dingbat says that GOPs rejected "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" belated border bill because Trump told them to. EFFINlie.

    But, look up the gay Guy podcast for today. It'll drop at 3:00 your time. If you can handle the truth. Keehee ha, ahhhhhhhhhhh.

  8. by Curt_Anderson on October 7, 2024 12:54 pm
    On the issue of abortion, it's not a lie to judge Trump on what he has done rather than on his latest promises. He DID support nationwide abortion bans.

    As president, Trump supported legislation that included a federal 20-week ban on abortion, with some exceptions.

    March 19, 2024: Trump more recently had flirted with supporting a federal abortion ban at 15 weeks.

    During a recent radio appearance, Trump said – without evidence – that “people are agreeing on 15, and I’m thinking in terms of that, and it’ll come out to something that’s very reasonable.”

    CNN reported last week that several Trump confidants, including former adviser Kellyanne Conway and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, lobbied the former president to support a federal abortion ban.


    As for the border bill which was written by Sen. Lankford (R-OK), it's not a lie to say that Trump told his minions in Congress to kill it because he needed immigration a campaign cudgel.

    (CNN)Republicans on Capitol Hill are grappling with the reality that most in the GOP are loathe to do anything that is seen as potentially undermining the former president. And the prospects of a deal being scuttled before it has even been finalized has sparked tensions and confusion in the Senate GOP as they try to figure out if, and how, to proceed – even as McConnell made clear during party lunches Thursday that he remains firmly behind the effort to strike a deal, according to attendees.

    “I think the border is a very important issue for Donald Trump. And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it is … really appalling,” said GOP Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, who has been an outspoken critic of Trump.

    He added, “But the reality is that, that we have a crisis at the border, the American people are suffering as a result of what’s happening at the border. And someone running for president not to try and get the problem solved. as opposed to saying, ‘hey, save that problem. Don’t solve it. Let me take credit for solving it later.’”
    cnn.com
    cbsnews.com
    cnn.com

  9. by HatetheSwamp on October 7, 2024 1:08 pm

    Oy, Curt. Is it possible for you not to ba a Good German?

    Trump has been crystal clear throughout the entire campaign that his position on regulating abortion is that it should be left to the states... that he takes credit for Justices he appointed to the Supreme Court overturning Roe. And, that, personally, he believes in exceptions for rape and the life of the mother. To suggest otherwise is an EFFINlie.

    And, on "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" border bill, it would have iffy at best that the bill would have achieved cloture in the Senate. And, even if it had, HouseGOPs would not have passed it. It was always dead in the water in the House.

    I think that moderate and independent common sense voters know that KK's been lying about these things, among many others.

  10. by Curt_Anderson on October 7, 2024 1:32 pm
    Trump has not been crystal clear on his abortion views. He's been all over the place. Regarding the current Florida abortion measure, he said "you need more time than six weeks, I’ve disagreed with that right from the early primaries when I heard about it." A day or so later he changed his mind on it.

    He has held at least 15 views, often contradictory, on abortion.
    bbc.com
    cnn.com
    cbsnews.com

  11. by Indy! on October 7, 2024 1:36 pm

    Peebs is just repeating whatever Fox said. They change their positions all the time and pretend like the latest one is the one they've always supported. So Trump is sayng 15 weeks today? That's what he's "always" said according to the Fox clones.

  12. by Donna on October 15, 2024 4:56 pm

    "Even Godwin Law’s namesake, Mike Godwin, wrote in a Post op-ed last year that he agrees the Hitler analogy is not just apt but necessary. He cited Trump’s authoritarian instincts for consolidating state power in a single leader; dehumanizing political enemies as “vermin”; and claiming that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country,” an infamous Hitler talking point.

    “Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions need to underscore the resemblance before we enter the twilight of American democracy,” Godwin wrote in December.

    And in fact, neither Godwin nor I is anywhere close to being the first to compare Trump with 20th-century fascists. Both of us were beaten out by Vance himself, who in 2016 referred to Trump as “America’s Hitler.”



    washingtonpost.com

  13. by Curt_Anderson on October 15, 2024 5:25 pm
    Donna,
    In the WaPo article you cited the writer, Catherine Rampell, wrote about previously not wanting to violate Godwin's law, "after all, equating a political figure with fascists sounds absurd. It’s just so over the top."

    That reminds me of how I explained in my in-person conversations what topics and questions that I included in my Presidential Candidate Selector. I said I looked for topics where the candidates disagreed. I used to say, just to pick an absurd example, "I don't include a question about slavery, because no modern politician favors slavery".

    Then Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson (R-NC) says "slavery is not bad". Also the Republican-led Florida education board approved social studies books last year that "teach" in their new Black history curriculum that "slaves developed skills" that could be used for "personal benefit".



  14. by Indy! on October 15, 2024 6:24 pm
    I missed the part about Hugh Hewitt. Who knew that guy was still alive?

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