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Walz outperforms Vance in new favorability poll
By Curt_Anderson
September 5, 2024 12:28 pm
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Basically, Vance is as unlikeable as Walz is likeable.

(The Hill)Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D), the Democratic nominee for vice president, is seen more favorably than his Republican counterpart, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, according to a poll released Thursday.

The Suffolk University/USA Today survey found 48 percent of likely voters say they see Walz in a positive light. In contrast, 37 percent of the same group said they see Vance in a positive light.

The voters in the poll also said they see Vance more unfavorably than Walz. Nearly half, 49 percent, said they see Vance in a negative light, while 36 percent said they see Walz in a negative light.

Check out Vance's awkward reason why he's the sort of guy Wisconsinites would like to have a beer with him. Apparently Vance has the same savoir faire in bar as he does in a doughnut shop.


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Comments on "Walz outperforms Vance in new favorability poll":

  1. by Ponderer on September 5, 2024 12:35 pm

    The flaming bullshit coming out of this man's mouth...!!! What gibberish! What maniacal ridiculousness!





  2. by HatetheSwamp on September 5, 2024 12:38 pm

    po,

    Here's a thought. Hunter's team realizes that the Orange Turd is a lock to win in November and they want to get this settled so the "dithering and diminished" Doddering Old Fool can commute/pardon before Inauguration Day.

    Whadaya think?


  3. by Curt_Anderson on September 5, 2024 12:41 pm
    Vance talks like the SNL Coneheads. "Heh, heh, I guess, I guess they'd like to drink beer with me because I actually do like to drink beer."

    At least he didn't refer to it as "large quantities of the amber-colored fermented beverage".



  4. by HatetheSwamp on September 5, 2024 12:45 pm

    Curt,

    We know that you're our ace Fox viewer. You're also a devoted viewer of JD's speeches, interviews, rallies and Townhalls?

    We're unworthy. We're unworthy. We're unworthy. We're unworthy. We're unworthy.

    Keehee ha, ahhhhhhhhhhh.


  5. by Indy! on September 5, 2024 1:32 pm

    Donald Trump likes normal people, aka...


    https://youtu.be/Vpdt7omPoa0?si=lmCB75b_NHdh62hj


  6. by Indy! on September 5, 2024 1:32 pm

    Good lord, I totally forgot how the videos work here. Sorry.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on September 5, 2024 1:59 pm
    J.D. Vance thinks the high cost of daycare can be solved with one easy trick: Just ask your family for help!

    At a Turning Point Action event in Mesa, Arizona, Wednesday, conservative pundit Charlie Kirk asked the Republican vice presidential nominee how to lower the cost of childcare. Vance’s answer seemed more than a little tone-deaf.

    “One of the ways that you might be able to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who are paying so much for daycare is, maybe grandma and grandpa wants to help out a little bit more. Or maybe there’s an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit more,” Vance said. “If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all of the resources that we’re spending on daycare.”

    For the record, Trump gave an even worse answer to that question in NY City today:
    After his speech, Mr. Trump took four questions from members of the Economic Club. Reshma Saujani, the founder of Girls Who Code, asked Mr. Trump what legislation he might prioritize to address rising child care costs.

    In a jumbled answer, Mr. Trump said he would commit to legislation but did not offer any specifics, insisting that his other economic policies, including tariffs, would “take care” of child care. “As much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in,” Mr. Trump said.
    newrepublic.com
    nytimes.com


  8. by Ponderer on September 5, 2024 3:30 pm

    “One of the ways that you might be able to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who are paying so much for daycare is, maybe grandma and grandpa wants to help out a little bit more. Or maybe there’s an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit more,” Vance said. “If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all of the resources that we’re spending on daycare.” -JD Vance

    “As much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in,” -Donald Trump


    The flaming bullshit coming out of these men's mouths...!!! What gibberish! What maniacal ridiculousness! The utter, blithering pig-ignorance of average people's lives. The total lack of any discernable shred of basic human empathy, caring, or understanding. The cavalier dismissal of suffering and anguish of their fellow citizens. The pathetically circumscribed, narrow-minded and bigoted understanding of anything that doesn't directly affect them.

    It's like they aren't even really human anymore... They're some sort of boardroom, focus group amalgamation of what might appeal to the stupidest of American humanity made out of random blogger nonsense. Dear God in Heaven above. What disgusting excuses for human beings.





  9. by Indy! on September 5, 2024 3:52 pm

    “If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all of the resources that we’re spending on daycare.” -JD Vance

    Translation: He'd also like to cut whatever help people are getting now from the gov't.


  10. by Donna on September 6, 2024 7:39 am

    Trump and JD Vance will do exactly zero to help working class Americans if elected, because they're sociopaths, as are most of their followers.


  11. by meagain on September 6, 2024 8:03 am
    Interesting that childcare may be on the table. We now have a $10 per day programme in Canada, and we are having teething difficulties in the rollout. Some Conservative provinces are moving very slowly to advance it but the chief difficulties will be finding enough qualified staff and paying the increased wages that they are now going to get. Increases from shamefully low levels for their education. Quebec has had one for years but will now be part of the National Plan.

    There will be huge economic benefits as possibly hundreds of thousands of young women will be freed to seek employment and a lot of families that are now paying high fees will have greater disposable income to bolster consumer spending.


  12. by Ponderer on September 6, 2024 8:09 am

    This blithering blabbering idiocy coming from these MAGA Hat Clowns is absolutely indefensible.

    That's why Hate and olde dude can't do it.



    O, tho they are driven and obligated to try.


  13. by HatetheSwamp on September 6, 2024 8:22 am

    meagain... and t'other wokes on SS:

    Re: "Interesting that childcare may be on the table. We now have a $10 per day programme in Canada, and we are having teething difficulties in the rollout. Some Conservative provinces are moving very slowly to advance it..."

    Is there any question to which the answer is not Big Brother!!!!!?


  14. by oldedude on September 6, 2024 8:54 am
    The flaming bullshit coming out of these men's mouths...!!! What gibberish! What maniacal ridiculousness! The utter, blithering pig-ignorance of average people's lives. The total lack of any discernable shred of basic human empathy, caring, or understanding. The cavalier dismissal of suffering and anguish of their fellow citizens. The pathetically circumscribed, narrow-minded and bigoted understanding of anything that doesn't directly affect them.

    Interesting. We moved to FL to take care of grandkids. I'm not saying that everyone should though. So you're point that not all grandparents are willing or able to do this is taken. My point is the "maniacal ridiculousness! The utter, blithering pig-ignorance of average people's lives. The total lack of any discernable shred of basic human empathy, caring, or understanding. The cavalier dismissal of suffering and anguish of their fellow citizens. The pathetically circumscribed, narrow-minded and bigoted understanding of anything that doesn't directly affect them."

    I believe your statement to be maniacal ridiculousness and has a total lack of any discernable shred of basic human empathy, caring, or understanding.

    I realize you don't have grandkids (at least neither of you have said anything about them). But I guess my statement is, "who the fuck are you to make that decision for me?"

    We consider us average folks.
    We CHOSE to do this.
    We CHOSE to be a central part of my grandchildren's lives.
    We CHOSE to help raise them with my ethics that I think make a good human being.
    Honesty, integrity, and values in a positive manner. We refuse to talk about hating anyone. When they get a little older, they'll learn there are bad people. They need to know that.

    For those that don't know, at three years old, what is expected of my grandson now, is what we were learning in kindergarten. What they are learning in kindergarten is stuff we learned in third grade. That's the expectation now. These children are also bilingual. so there's that.

    There is no way we are bitter about what he said. If you chose not to do this, fine. The infrastructure of the other grandkids is wonderful and all the grandparents work together and support each other. If you have grandkids and chose to be "holiday grandparents" that's on you. You see them once a year, send them a "present" they don't want for their birthdays, that's fine.


  15. by Donna on September 6, 2024 9:00 am

    "I believe your statement to be maniacal ridiculousness and has a total lack of any discernable shred of basic human empathy, caring, or understanding." - od

    WTF? Sheri isn't attacking you or grandparents - she's attacking JD Vance's tone deafness to working class families who are struggling financially.




  16. by oldedude on September 6, 2024 11:34 am
    Donna- My question to you is, I only responded to her as we were addressed. What is the difference if I say that? or she says it?

    On that note. On to a response to you.
    Except The number of Americans who live in multigenerational family households is about four times larger than it was in the 1970s, while the number in other types of homes grew by far less. The share of the U.S. population living in multigenerational homes more than doubled over the past five decades.

    Multigenerational living is growing in part because groups that account for most recent overall population growth in the U.S., including foreign-born, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans, are more likely to live with multiple generations under one roof. Multigenerational living also is rising among non-Hispanic White Americans, who accounted for a higher share of the multigenerational household population growth from 2000 to 2021 (28%) than of total population growth (9%).


    You'll see the most restrictive part of multigenerational family households (MFH) is the tight living conditions. In our situation, we opted for a different house/land. They have their space, we have ours. If we were going to live on the same "property" we would live in an "asian" or "Middle Eastern" style family compound. It makes sense. We both live in a connected housing unit with our own living area. AND there is also a communal kitchen, and for FL, an outdoor smoker and grill, pool, etc.

    They both have jobs. "Preschool" for two kids in FL (not one of your higher income/cost areas) would be $500/week for both kids. That's $2,000/month. An hourly worker would be hard pressed to make that much money, so it's more efficient NOT to work and keep the kids. And then you cut your income in half and can't buy food.

    The girl (18 mo), has a "nanny" two days a week, and we have her 3-4, depending on what is going on at their property.

    The older boy (3 1/2) is at preschool five days a week. This was done to get them socialized and working with teachers' and other kids. We can pick him up on days when mom has business calls, etc. Dad works in another county and it's a 45-60 minute drive each way.

    Again, things we didn't know about "kindergarten" are not only knowing your numbers, but "counting the square yellow pieces." So the kids have to know both shapes and colors to separate them, and then count them, a multi-stage math word problem. Sounding out simple words.

  17. Mothers who had strong coparenting relationships with grandparents (mostly grandmothers) tended to feel more effective in their role as a parent, and, in turn, their children tended to be more socially competent six months later.

  18. The researchers explain that grandparents, with their rich parenting experience, can provide support, role modeling, and encouragement when they collaborate in raising children, which could influence how competent mothers feel in their parenting role.

  19. When mothers are feeling more confident, they can approach parenting with more positivity and persistence, which can boost their children’s social development.

  20. It's an economically strategic plan that allows them to contribute to retirement plans, build healthy emergency funds and save for a down payment for their own homes.


    pewresearch.org
    greatergood.berkeley.edu
    npr.org


  21. by Indy! on September 6, 2024 11:38 am

    Are you asking for sympathy because you moved to the same city as your grandkids, OD? Because you know that doesn't count as a "multigenerational home" no matter how bad you want it to. 😂


  22. by oldedude on September 6, 2024 11:47 am
    NOT doing anything of the sort. So again, you just can't get away from being an 8 year old psychotic liar that tears the wings off of birds and burns kittens.


  23. by Indy! on September 6, 2024 2:08 pm

    We've heard enough about your sick childhood, OD. If you want us to feel sorry for you - you need to take that first step towards not feeling sorry for yourself all the time and trying to project your own bitterness onto others.


  24. by Donna on September 8, 2024 9:19 am

    od, your response to Ponderer was non sequitur.



  25. by Donna on September 8, 2024 9:26 am

    And I don't understand what the rest of your post has to do with anything she said.

    If Sheri and I had grandchildren, unless they lived within driving distance of where we live, we wouldn't be able to help them or their parents. I would guess that there are literally millions of American families in the same situation.



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