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Has anybody here watched both the RNC and DNC conventions?

By Curt_Anderson
August 20, 2024 10:32 pm
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I didn't watch a minute of the RNC convention. So I asked two friends who did for their impressions. One said it was "dark, negative and machoism". Another said the highlight was Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt, he sarcastically quipped, "a Churchillian moment".

I've been watching the DNC convention. They are pumped up and having fun, imho. It's also unabashedly patriotic.

Both Michelle and Barack Obama were great. There were other good speakers. I would be surprised if the GOP had any orators of their caliber.

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by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 3:03 am

I've watched some of both. The GOPs, early on, featured everyday people. Ole pb's "mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps" who run PTAs and own the local Subway franchise. The Dems? Mostly elites. And, on Monday night, that old guy shouting, GET OFF MY LAWN! That was fun.

And, Hulk Hogan put on a fun show.

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 4:20 am
I did watch ramblin' joe this time around. cliton makes me sick so I didn't. The rest I can catch up on BBC. I think the conservative stations are live there, unlike MSNBC who wasn't at the RNC and taped it from NYC with a backdrop to "appear" to be there.

And instead of a "night of just more elitist prigs" the GOP had a theme each night to talk about the platform. There was some continuity about it. It wasn't so thrown together. One night were the victims of the border. Parents whose children were murdered by "Tren de Aragua." How do we know it's that gang? Because two of the three brothers (all members in a Venezuelan prison) were released to go to the US. They murdered a 22-year-old nursing student out on her morning run at the University of Georgia, Laken (NOT "Lincoln" joe) Riley.

On a different night were the parents of some of those murdered on kammy's plan to leave "on the wheels of aircraft" from Afghanistan. This international footage was seen in Russia for almost a month after the US left a couple hundred thousand American citizens and those we promised to take with us. Proving how stupid the US is, and incapable pedojoe and kammy are at resolving any global issue at all. What's funny, is the dims don't see anything wrong with what they did. (meaning the Marines deserved to die, and pedojoe checking his watch was a good thing to do).

by Ponderer on August 21, 2024 7:20 am

"I've watched some of both. The GOPs, early on, featured everyday people. Ole pb's "mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps" who run PTAs and own the local Subway franchise. The Dems? Mostly elites." -Hate

You didn't watch much of any of the Democratic convention if that's what you walked away with.

Oh wait! I get it... >i>You're lying!

Now what you said makes sense.

Curt, we've watched a lot of the Dem convention so far. All of the speakers were great. Especially Hillary and the Obamas. And Doug Emhoff acquitted himself well. I can't wait to watch him be the First Gentleman. And you are so right about the incredible energy. Never seen it's like in a political convention before.

Only caught the highlights of the Trump Party convention. I tried watching parts live a few times, but I could only take so much asininity and lying on a constant basis before getting nauseated. Watching people try to convince themselves and those around them that they are happy about supporting a multiply convicted felon and adjudicated rapist for president was just too sad to keep watching.

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 7:30 am

po,

C'mon man. Gimme a break!

we've watched a lot of the Dem convention so far. All of the speakers were great. Especially Hillary and the Obamas. And Doug Emhoff acquitted himself well.

I said that the Dems have elites speaking. You just agreed!!!!! Bahahahahahahahahahaha ha.

Where are those mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps who merely want to raise their kids without government intrusion? They were all over the stage with the GOPs.

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 7:43 am
The libs don't give a shit about 1. the Constitution, 2. The bill of Rights. 3. anyone else's rights except for their own.

by Ponderer on August 21, 2024 7:50 am

"I said that the Dems have elites speaking." -Hate

Oh I see. You don't understand how political conventions work.

They were not the only speakers at the convention. There were several hours of speakers who have spoken so far before the main speakers speak each day. I particularly was moved by the stories from average American women who spoke and described the horrors that Trump's anti-abortion policies needlessly put them through and nearly killed them.

So no one who spoke at the Trump Party convention could be considered an "elite"? Is that your claim?

Bill, I'm sure that you're not saying that the final speakers each night of the Trump Party convention were someone's nanna or dada or peepoo who no one had ever heard of before. I didn't watch more than a few minutes of the Trump Party convention live, but I feel confident in warranting that it wasn't the case.

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 7:51 am
There is a very practical reason why the Republicans would not have many �elites� at their convention. Anybody with any stature does not support or want to be associated with Donald Trump. Were you expecting Mike Pence, George W. Bush, or any of Trump�s past cabinet members to support him? Good luck with that.

by Donna on August 21, 2024 7:51 am

I think it's funny that you, o.d., like to call Joe Biden "pedojoe", but you're going to vote for a convicted sexual predator... for the third time.

by Donna on August 21, 2024 7:54 am

Former Trump White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told NBC News, "I never thought I�d be speaking at a Democratic convention. But after seeing firsthand who Donald Trump really is, and the threat he poses to our country, I feel very strongly about speaking out."

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 7:59 am

po,

American women who spoke and described the horrors that Trump's anti-abortion policies needlessly put them through and nearly killed them.

What Trump anti-abortion policies are they? I follow pretty closely. I don't know of any.

I did see ON FOX a brief snippet of a young woman lying that Trump denies an exception for abortion in the case of rape. Did you see that speech!!!!!?

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 8:03 am

Re: Anybody with any stature does not support or want to be associated with Donald Trump. Were you expecting Mike Pence, George W. Bush, or any of Trump�s past cabinet members to support him? Good luck with that.

Wow, Curt. Stature!!!!!?

I don't think, in your case, elitist, is the adjective that fits.

Snob?

Yeah. Right. That fits. Keehee ha!

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 8:17 am
Non-elite Hadley Duvall, from Kentucky, told how she was raped by her stepfather and became pregnant at age 12. Duvall was part of a panel of speakers from Republican states who had personal experiences of the impact of abortion bans.

She noted Donald Trump's previous remarks calling abortion bans 'a beautiful thing', to which she responded: 'What is so beautiful about a child having to carry her parent's child?'

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 8:24 am

Yeah, Curt. That's the clip I saw on FOX. You were probably watching, too, bahaha.

Re: "She noted Donald Trump's previous remarks calling abortion bans 'a beautiful thing', to which she responded: 'What is so beautiful about a child having to carry her parent's child?'"

I'd love, as po'd say, to EFFINsee see that Trump video.

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 8:36 am
HtS,
See link.
thehill.com

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 9:22 am

No, Curt.

A video of Trump saying it's beautiful to force a child to have to carry her parent's child.

I hope you know better, Curt.

*****

And, very seriously, Curt, and y'all:

What Trump is saying in Curt's quote from The Hill, i.e., "Former President Trump on Wednesday said it was �a beautiful thing to watch� as individual states passed patchwork abortion laws,..."

...is that our constitutional republic, in action, is a beautiful thing to watch. As it says in the Preamble of the Constitution, "of the people, by the people and for the people," baby!

Trump, personally, favors an exception for abortion when the pregnancy is the result of rape... and, of incest, too. And, he's in.$#!t with social conservatives over that.

In Curt's link, Trump is celebrating that our republic still operates.

Do you not understand that? Or, are you opposed to our republic?

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 9:40 am
HtS,
Show me where in the laws of Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri or South Dakota that abortion is permitted in cases of rape or incest. Those states ban abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest.

Stephanie Grisham, the former Trump aide who spoke last night at the DNC convention, said in an interview yesterday that she "knows" of Republican women who are not telling their husbands that they will vote Kamala Harris. I suspect abortion rights is an important issue with them. I suspect they are not telling pollsters either.

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 9:52 am

Show me where in the laws of Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri or South Dakota that abortion is permitted in cases of rape or incest. Those states ban abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest.

It's not there.

That's why Trump is in $#!t with lots of the GOP.

I try not to think you don't understand this, but: The GOP is the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, diversity, tolerance and freedom.

Dems are the party of sheeple... and of Big Brother.

Do you only understand lockstepping?

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 10:05 am
HtS,
So in your thinking states with intrusive laws which ban abortion with no exceptions even for rape and incest are NOT Big Brother. But any proposals to eliminate such draconian laws ARE Big Brother.

By the way, some states with restrictive abortion bans make exceptions for the life of the mother. How is a doctor supposed to know if the mother will/would have died? After all, they face losing their medical license, a trial and even prison if they cannot prove it later.

You probably would have thought it OK if some states were slave states if that what's those states decided.

by Indy! on August 21, 2024 10:18 am

If you want to know which convention was the more uplifting for voters just read post #2 in this thread. Sounds like the Rs were reading off a police blotter the while time. Hasn't anyone told Fox that crime is way down (again)?

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 10:19 am

Re: So in your thinking states with intrusive laws which ban abortion with no exceptions even for rape and incest are NOT Big Brother. But any proposals to eliminate such draconian laws ARE Big Brother.

If the ban is by bureaucratic or judicial decree, it is absolutely, Big Brother. If the people chose it, it ain't. And, if those restrictions are repealed by the functioning of the republic, that's as it should be.

I understand that individual liberty and government of the people by the people and for the people makes you uncomfortable.

BUT pb, BUT pb, RIGHTS AREN'T ABSOLUTE. Those were the days, eh!!!!!?

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 10:40 am
curt- So in your thinking states with intrusive laws which ban abortion with no exceptions even for rape and incest are NOT Big Brother. But any proposals to eliminate such draconian laws ARE Big Brother.
Okay.... First🙄 You're correct.. Nothing you mentioned is "big brother." What IS Big Brother is the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKING THE LAW. And you say you're a "libertarian?" That's some serious BS.

While I agree with you on that point, you fail to mention the response from the dims to the tight rules (ala Florida 6 weeks) is "unrestricted abortions." Indy and I had this conversation earlier. The state is having a referendum on the Nov ballot. NO restrictions to abortions. HTF is that a negotiation? That is one of the biggest issues is the LIE they are telling the voters. "it's just a minor change and keeps everything except for the time limit. Obviously that's what the dims want, especially for FL. CA? not such a big deal. FL? it is.

by Indy! on August 21, 2024 10:47 am

That is NOT what is on the ballot. The restrictionS are clearly spelled out in the Amendment...

The following language would be added to the state constitution: "Except as provided in Article X, Section 22, no law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient�s health, as determined by the patient�s healthcare provider."[1]

Turn off Fox - rejoin reality.

PS: That is also how you SOURCE information... the pertinent quote is right there for you to read and I have ONE verifiable source if you want to read further.
ballotpedia.org

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 10:56 am
Hasn't anyone told Fox that crime is way down (again)?
I still think it's "cute" how you, a small-minded boy, mock the families of people who were raped and murdered. It shows your true "colors." I guess you got used to it in your line of "work" (do you want the examples, or not?) Well done! Welldone.

If you want to know which convention was the more uplifting for voters just read post #2 in this thread.
The first two days weren't meant to be "uplifting" WTF is there to be "uplifted" about? You know jack and shit about marketing. Those first to days were to give the country a (actually just line out the reasons [plural and multiple]) why kammie and KK should be held responsible for everything that was done. She supported pedojoe throughout the tenure. People are dying needlessly and on their watch and neither one cares (well, that goes for the vast majority of dims, so...)

She was the "border czar" for fuckssake! SHE OF ALL PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION should have been down there, doing what she needed to do to. That's what she was getting paid for. Instead, she volunteered to pick up cigarette butts because it was "easier."

by Indy! on August 21, 2024 11:01 am

So we're this far into the crime discussion and you've still had no one explain to you what it means when crime is "up" or "down"?

Not working so far. Maybe you losers can hold another convention and claim the first one never happened? 🤔

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 11:18 am
You need to talk to real people. The victims that you don't give a rat's ass about.

The 55% of Americans who worry �a great deal� about inflation is just slightly above the percentages concerned about five other domestic issues that are troubling to majorities of Americans. These are crime and violence (53%), hunger and homelessness (52%), the economy (52%), the availability and affordability of healthcare (51%), and federal spending and the budget deficit (51%).

Another four issues are highly concerning to less than half but at least four in 10 Americans: illegal immigration (48%), drug use (45%), the Social Security system (43%) and the possibility of future terrorist attacks in the U.S. (43%).

So it looks like you're out of touch princess.

In 2024, several key issues are at the forefront for Americans:

Economy:
Inflation remains a significant concern, with many Americans feeling the pinch of rising prices1. The economy is the top issue for voters, with 60% citing it as their primary concern

Healthcare:
The affordability and accessibility of healthcare continue to be major issues, with 57% of Americans viewing it as a very big problem.

Immigration:
Immigration policies and border security are also critical topics, with 51% of Americans considering illegal immigration a very big problem.

Gun Violence and Crime:
Concerns about gun violence and violent crime are prevalent, with nearly half of Americans identifying these as significant issues.

Federal Budget Deficit:
The federal budget deficit is another major concern, with 53% of Americans viewing it as a very big problem.
news.gallup.com
bing.com

by Indy! on August 21, 2024 11:47 am

So no one has explained it to you. Okay - one more try...

Facts are facts - they DO reflect the actual crime rate.

Polls are opinions - they do NOT reflect the actual crime rate.

by Ponderer on August 21, 2024 1:02 pm

"What Trump anti-abortion policies are they?" -Hate

Simply put, any and all anti-abortion policies enacted by states since Donald Trump's Supreme Whores did away with Roe v Wade.

I don't giveashit that he didn't sign any anti-abortion policies or author any anti-abortion policies. He intentionally picked Supreme Court judges who he was sure would repeal Roe v Wade as soon as they got the chance. And that's exactly what they did.

Donald Trump is personally responsible for every anti-abortion policy that has been enacted since his fuckingwhores did away with Roe v Wade. It doesn't matter if it was state legislatures who enacted them. They are his policies. He is stuck with them and they are yet another in a long line of albatrosses hung around his fat orange neck.

Bill, I know how desperate you are to support and defend your Salacious Savior. I know that no argument is too stupid for you to not try to use it to help him. I know that you don't like that Trump is personally responsible for the state of reproductive rights in this country today and you will now try tofuck words around so that you can pretend that he isn't responsible for any of them at all. But that would just be you lying your MAGA Hat Ass off as you are wont to do. Because they are his.

The current state policies that states are using to deny women reproductive rights and the desperate medical treatments that they need to save their lives are all 100% the responsibility of and directly attributable to Donald J. Trump. Just deal with it already.

by HatetheSwamp on August 21, 2024 1:44 pm

Re: Simply put, any and all anti-abortion policies enacted by states since Donald Trump's Supreme Whores did away with Roe v Wade.

po,

In recent days, I've come to realize that the political differences I have with Donna and Curt and you are not about the progressive/moderate thing.

In fact, Donna and I have posted back and forth in the past about what the best abortion regulations should be... and we agree. Something similar to the laws of most European nations are the best thing. So there.

No.

What we disagree about is the liberty that the Bill of Rights guarantees to American citizens... liberty from the intrusion of the Federal government into our lives.

When the Dobbs decision was pending, ole pb expected that the Court might very well shoot down Roe. He was, as you'd say, EFFINthrilled with what it actually did. The Court determined that abortion must be "regulated by the people and their elected representatives"... because ours is a nation rule by a Constitution written in the name of WE THE PEOPLE.

And, I love that. You, apparently, hate it.

Personally, I could not possibly be more pro-life. But, I think America has about as good a design for its government as humanity has ever devised.

For us, it's not for the High Court to regulate abortion. We are, as Lincoln suggested, "a nation of the people, by the people and for the people." And, the Tenth Amendment gives to the people and the states the prerogative to settle among ourselves sensitive issues such as abortion.

I think that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have it as right as humans ever have.

I'm sorry for you that you don't agree.

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 2:06 pm
So I was right, HtS, you do think slavery is a states� rights issue.

In 1857, Supreme Court ruled that Dred Scott was still a slave (and therefore not a U.S. citizen), and did not have the right to sue for his freedom. It also ruled that at the time the Constitution was written, slaves were considered property. The Constitution did not give the federal government the power to take away an owner�s property. Under the Tenth Amendment, the Court said, the power to free slaves was reserved for the states.

I believe there are inalienable rights that should not be voted away by neighboring bigots and cranks.

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 2:21 pm
So you believe in the omniscience of Big Brother.

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 2:34 pm
No, OD, I am a progressive. I believe in America progressing and constantly improving because we don�t always get it right the first time. Our Founders understood that. They charged future generations including us with the continual job of forming a more perfect union.

by oldedude on August 21, 2024 2:46 pm
But you've kept saying you're a "liberaltarian?" And I've called you on it several times. I'm open if you changed. That's always cool, you just have to let people know.

I'll agree with your premise, and I refuse to believe the federal government is the answer as outlined in the Constitution.

So I'll file this away to work with you easier. Hopefully it will be easier for you also.

by Curt_Anderson on August 21, 2024 3:00 pm
I have never said I am a libertarian. I said agree with the Libertarian Party�s view on immigration, which is to welcome immigration. I also agree with them that tariffs are a tax on consumers. My political party is Democrat. Btw, I don�t believe any political party has all the answers.

by Indy! on August 21, 2024 3:14 pm

The Supreme Whored are going to be sorry they overturned Roe. We knew this when Kansas (of all places) was one of the first states to pass a law supporting a woman's right to choose. Florida will be added to the list in November and once it's in our state Constitution, it's almost impossible to overturn.

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