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Trump hedges, hesitates, hems and haws at suggestion that he declassify the Jeffrey Epstein files.
By Curt_Anderson
June 7, 2024 4:22 pm
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I wonder what Trump has to worry about?

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Comments on "Trump hedges, hesitates, hems and haws at suggestion that he declassify the Jeffrey Epstein files.":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on June 7, 2024 4:35 pm

    I dunno. Being 86ed by the CIA?


  2. by Indy! on June 7, 2024 7:16 pm

    Promises, promises... He could have done JFK and 9/11 last time.

    Fun Fact: The reason the 2000 Election was rigged for George W. Smirk is because Al Gore was going to release the JFK files.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on June 7, 2024 9:08 pm
    I know what 86ed means but I don’t get what you are saying.


  4. by Indy! on June 8, 2024 1:06 am
    He means Trump’s afraid the CIA might 86 him if he tries to declassify their boy.



  5. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 9:18 am
    So the theory is that Jeffrey Epstein was a CIA agent!?


  6. by HatetheSwamp on June 8, 2024 9:25 am

    He couldn't be trusted to keep his big mouth shut... or, is your blind faith in Big Brother so strong that you think it's impossible.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 9:37 am
    HtS,
    So you’re saying that not only was Jeffrey Epstein a CIA agent, but he was a CIA agent ready to “spill the beans“ on CIA activities. Did I get that theory about right? It’s not a matter of blind faith to think that something is impossible, it is a matter that there is not an iota of evidence for me to believe any of that theory is true.

    Years ago, I watched a documentary on Ian Fleming’s 007. A former head of the CIA said that James Bond would be the worst spy ever. He said the last thing you want a spy to be is to be well-known and recognizable showing up in nightclubs and in the tabloids. You know, like Trump’s pal Jeffrey Epstein.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on June 8, 2024 10:06 am

    So you’re saying that not only was Jeffrey Epstein a CIA agent, but he was a CIA agent ready to “spill the beans“ on CIA activities. Did I get that theory about right?

    no


  9. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 10:48 am
    So what are you saying?


  10. by Indy! on June 8, 2024 11:12 am

    Soooooo, Curt... you believe Epstein committed suicide? The guy who was on a suicide watch, the video camera in his cell in a top NY prison facility magically stopped working, the guards who were supposed to be watching him 24/7 decided Game of Thrones was more important and Epstein decided it was a good time to kill himself? You believe that fairy tale? 😂


  11. by HatetheSwamp on June 8, 2024 11:29 am

    Curt believes that even the FBI, corrupt from day one, is pristine. Big Brother can do no harm, don't you know!!!!!?


  12. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 11:33 am
    He certainly would have the motivation to commit suicide. I thought HtS was saying that the CIA killed "their boy" meaning Epstein. And all of that skullduggery is in the classified CIA files.

    If there is some other conspiracy theory, I don't get it.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 12:34 pm
    If there was a conspiracy in Epstein's death, my guess is that Epstein was in on it.

    Rather than him being strangled in his cell by the FBI, CIA, NYPD or whoever, the most likely possibility is that Epstein took advantage of gaps in the cell monitoring system and took his chance when it became available. See article about negligence and misconduct by the guards. A murder conspiracy would involve a lot of people including the coroners.

    The next possibility is that Epstein pulled a "Hermann Göring" who avoided the gallows with the help of American soldier assigned to guard him. That soldier may or may not have been an unwitting accomplice, but he accepted a bribe from Göring in the form of a fancy hunting rifle. Epstein had a lot of money that was not doing him any good.


    theguardian.com


  14. by Indy! on June 8, 2024 12:53 pm

    Ahh... the old "negligence" angle. Just a couple goofy guards not paying attention. This is what I meant the other day when I said there was a time I thought you were trying to gaslight us. When I see an article like this, I know the reality is you actually believe these fairy tales. Epstein was the biggest story in the entire world - him and his crimes connected to U.S. PRESIDENTS and other huge politicians and titans of industry - he would not be in a cell with another prisoner. He would not have the tools to commit suicide. He would be in isolation in a max prison with no way anyone could kill him and guards checking every 15 minutes. If there was any "negligence" it was on the part of the every institution that had any interest in his crimes - which is EVERY law enforcement agency in the United States government.

    Then there is the other problem... Why have the crimes not been addressed? Epstein has been silenced, his gf arrested and given a slap on the wrist (because she was smart enough to get copies of everything) and the rest just disappeared in the wind... the videos of these famous people and their sick sex acts, the photos, the logs, the attention... all of it just disappeared. I guess that's due to "negligence" as well, right? 😂


  15. by oldedude on June 8, 2024 1:31 pm
    Curt- Rather than him being strangled in his cell by the FBI, CIA, NYPD or whoever, the most likely possibility is that Epstein took advantage of gaps in the cell monitoring system and took his chance when it became available. See article about negligence and misconduct by the guards. A murder conspiracy would involve a lot of people including the coroners.

    You forgot people with real power. NYPD are the hitmen, nothing more. The FBI and CIA are the fixers that own the hitmen. The string pullers? Clitons, British Royalty, and others in places of power who have the means to "make things happen" without the trail going to them. Look at the Davos meeting and you'll see the fat rich old guys that are not susceptible to the courts, even international courts. You don't think a coroner with an international bank roll in a free trade bank would refuse to pick up $500K? Really? I'm with Indy on this one.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on June 8, 2024 1:41 pm

    Glad you're back, OD.

    Bang on.


  17. by Ponderer on June 8, 2024 1:42 pm

    "I wonder what Trump has to worry about?" -Curt

    I would think it's kinda simple.

    Trump is likely fearing that if the Epstein files get declassified, it would incriminate him and/or close friends critical allies of his as having committed statutory rape of minors.

    This is an Occam's Razor kinda situation.


  18. by oldedude on June 8, 2024 2:41 pm
    Whenever someone with TDS blames trumpster for anything, I immediately just discount it as not valid and wait for someone that can actually put fact to their thoughts. The vast majority of times, it's a great move.


  19. by oldedude on June 8, 2024 3:02 pm
    Lead- started on parts' replacements. This was a left hip.


  20. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 3:08 pm
    It's so unfair that people attempt to link Trump to Epstein.




    A 2002 profile about Epstein in New York magazine quoted Donald Trump saying Epstein was a "terrific guy", adding details about their shared interest in "beautiful women."

    "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump told the magazine.

    "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
    newsweek.com


  21. by HatetheSwamp on June 8, 2024 3:18 pm

    Ouch, OD. I hope you have a complete recovery from the surgery.


  22. by oldedude on June 8, 2024 7:43 pm
    Curt- I know you'll deflect and put it all on trumpster (because you can't see any other thought other than to blame him for everything).

    Ghislaine Maxwell said that trumpster was only known "socially" and wasn't part of the same group of the frequent fliers the clitons (et.al) were.
    townandcountrymag.com


  23. by Curt_Anderson on June 8, 2024 9:08 pm
    OD,
    I just read that T&C article. I had already assumed that Trump's connection to Epstein was social, that's obvious in the video above. I didn't see anything there about Trump not being a "frequent flier" as you said. Not that I'd take Maxwell's word for it. I am sure she hoped for a presidential pardon.

    However there were some incriminating quotes. I am sure you were familiar with what Trump said about his visiting the dressing room of the Miss Teen USA beauty pageant. So is it impossible that Trump and Epstein had common interests in young women? I don't know, but I wouldn't rule it out.

    Before I read the article, I didn't know that Jeffrey Epstein took credit for introducing Trump to his third wife, Melania Knauss.

    Anyway, I didn't blame Trump in this thread. But can you blame me (and everyone else) for noticing that Trump was strangely reluctant to commit to declassifying the Epstein files when asked by FOX News?


  24. by oldedude on June 9, 2024 5:42 am
    That question is raised because there's nothing about pedojoe doing the same. He's been strangely quiet about something he could do. Your vitriol hatred of trumpster is my point. You welcome him in to live in your head 24/7. I've only been saying this for years, if you think this is something new, you don't read.


  25. by Curt_Anderson on June 9, 2024 8:28 am
    Olde Dude,
    The difference is that no reporter asked Biden about declassifying the Epstein files. Trump was the guy who furiously backpedaled when asked.


  26. by HatetheSwamp on June 9, 2024 8:34 am

    "Furiously," baha. Deranged TrumpHate is a hoot!

    Can you imagine how much fun po and you'd have if you successfully recruited a genuine MAGA!!!!!?


  27. by oldedude on June 9, 2024 9:56 am
    The difference is that no reporter asked Biden about declassifying the Epstein files. Trump was the guy who furiously backpedaled when asked.

    So the question to ask is "why hasn't there been a question to a "person" that we have evidence showered with his 9 year old daughter, sniffs prepubescent's hair, and did a boob graze with television cameras on?


  28. by HatetheSwamp on June 9, 2024 10:12 am

    So the question to ask is "why hasn't there been a question to a "person" that we have evidence showered with his 9 year old daughter, sniffs prepubescent's hair, and did a boob graze with television cameras on?

    Amazing, ain't, OD!!!!!

    And, I'm certain that never occurred to Curt.


  29. by Indy! on June 10, 2024 7:03 pm

    It's not about Epstein - he's dead. It's about a "justice" system that does nothing in the wake of Epstein. How come no one else has been arrested outside of his gf, Ghislaine? The US govt confiscated a ton files from Epstein's island home and the NY place, there are living witnesses and victims willing to testify - why has nothing happened other than Ghislaine being arrested for being stupid enough to flaunt her freedom at the local In-and-Out Burger?


  30. by Curt_Anderson on June 10, 2024 7:39 pm
    First, we don’t prosecute dead people in America. G. Maxwell is serving a twenty year prison sentence. What more did you want, Indy?


  31. by oldedude on June 10, 2024 8:14 pm
    What I would like is the "evidence" in the case to be opened. I think Indy agrees also. The courts have allowed only parts of the evidence opened slowly to protect those listed. That is truly the issue with the courts, the defendants, the prosecution, and most anyone in power.

    My view is that I would allow the list to be opened (maybe) to the LEAs of the jurisdiction they're in and allow prosecution in their own countries. The major issue is these people own a lot of these countries. THAT'S why they're in that little black book. In some cases, I don't trust the LEAs to actually prosecute a case against them. They'll buy off the investigators, then the judge, then the jury, and the media is all in because they're bought off also.

    Just to be clear curt, I'm not jumping on you, although it may look like it. This is a part of the (Swamp) "STUFF" that is a problem. Every politician mouths the words "no one is above the law" when they absolutely protect those in power over them.


  32. by Indy! on June 11, 2024 12:26 am
    I agree with OD.


  33. by oldedude on June 11, 2024 3:59 am

    (hopefully the correct smiley shows)


  34. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2024 4:23 am

    OD is bang on about the Epstein evidence.


  35. by Indy! on June 11, 2024 1:56 pm

    Curt either doesn't understand how a "conspiracy" works or he's trying to gaslight us. There are ZERO conspiracies where the entire US government is involved because (for one thing) not everyone needs to know. There is no need to "pay off" everyone. The number of people it would require to suicide Epstein in jail would just be a handful - maybe 4 or 5 - and half of them would not need to know anything other than "keep quiet". The entire prison system would not be involved as Curt seems to think.

    And btw, there are still people trying to pretend there was no "conspiracy" at all in regards to Epstein. Except we know that's not true because Ghislaine was involved. It only takes two - not the entire US govt't.


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