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I just keep thinking about how happy Conservatives/MAGA Republicans must be these days. It's been so very long since you've had a really good minority victim that you can sink your bigoted, hate-filled teeth into like the trans community.


I mean, we fit all the bills:

• There's relatively very few of us, so even if we took up arms against your fanatical, deranged discrimination, we wouldn't stand a chance (Bullies like you love a helpless victim).

• We are "different". Extremely so. So right there, we are a prime target ripe for attack.

• You don't understand the first thing about us. So you will gluttonously believe any horrific or ridiculous thing any asshole or group of assholes says about us.

• We are easy to propagandize, because the general public knows almost nothing about us. So they can easily be made to fear us (I mean, "They're coming after YOUR CHILDREN!!!!!". Geez, how long has it been since you could mendaciously and viciously use that one against a minority?).

• We make Bible-thumping Christians go absolutely apeshit.

• We are not an organized community with established leaders, so you can lie about us having whatever "agenda" you want to without worrying about any "MLK Jr" of ours fighting back against your lies about us.

• There is a small contingent of outlandish members of our community that you can demonize, blow out of all rational proportion, and pretend represent our whole community.

• Any crime or misdeed that someone from our community commits can be easily held up by you as representing the entire community without much fear of being corrected.

• We are a category of citizens of the United States of America with civil rights that you feel an intense craving to see torn away from us.


My God, it must be such a rush. Feeling the life force literally pumping back into you to have someone like us who you can hate and discriminate against while feeling good and just about it.

I mean how long has it been since you could put up signs barring a minority from using public facilities? How long has it been since you could make laws out of your discrimination? How long has it been since you've had a minority community like ours to rally all of your hate-filled, bigoted and ignorant sheep around?

Seriously, when was the last time you had a minority to rally your bigoted hatred around like us? It's been ages!


Yes, this is truly a Golden Age of Repression for you MAGA Republicans to hang your hatred and discrimination on. And with all the pent up hatred and bigotry you must have built up over the last few decades, the relief all you MAGA Republicans and other conservatives must be feeling right now must be utterly euphoric.

Oh my yes. It's been too too long indeed.....

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by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2023 12:05 pm po, Your post is a perfect Rorschach image of your own bigotry and paranoia. by Ponderer on June 27, 2023 12:43 pm You have absolutely no idea of what it feels like from the side it's being done to, Bill. You only know how it feels to be on the side doing it. So of course you downplay and gaslight it. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2023 2:10 pm po, Just give up the woke lifestyle. Simple enough. From Bev Jackson, leading British anti-TQ LGB activist: "If anything shows the difference between gay & queer, this is it. We spent decades combating homophobic accusations that gays were grooming children. We are lesbians, gays, and bisexuals. We reject all targeting of children. What the TQ+ zealots represent is not #Pride but Shame." po, Woke is a choice. No doubt about it. twitter.com by oldedude on June 27, 2023 3:16 pm You notice there was no reaction until you stated openly you wanted to be able to groom children in our schools. This is only a reaction to the things that have been put before parents and grandparents by the wokesters (you, et.al). had you resisted lying to parents and refusing to allow parents to be involved with THEIR children (not yours, NOT the governments'). The one thing I'm beginning to understand. Even though I've stated time and time again that the worry is not the trans community at the grooming, they are in the forefront of this mess. I say this because of your flat refusal to listen to anything anyone else says on the subject. Even if you're not the perps per se, your goal is to allow other perps easier access to children. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2023 4:14 pm That, OD, I'm becoming convinced, is a core woke trans principle. Sad. Tragic. by Indy! on June 27, 2023 5:23 pm Please. You guys snowflaked out over one trans Bud ad and a black mermaid. 🙄 by Ponderer on June 27, 2023 7:11 pm You nailed it, Indy!. Bunch of bawling crybabies. And olde dude, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to go fuckyourself, if you'd be so kind. by oldedude on June 27, 2023 7:22 pm Actually, I am worried about the biggest mass murder of children this year in a school, the t-girl who was the gov of MN's public affairs person who threatened to murder every non trans in retribution for the past transgressions, and other threats against other to do violent bodily harm that a "reasonable" person would consider a threat to life (reasonable person does not include po). And many others that want to strip parents of any parental control but still blame them for any wrongdoing of their kids (in their eyes). by oldedude on June 27, 2023 7:28 pm And po. GO FUCK YOURSELF. SIMPLE AS THAT. THESE ARE FUCKING FACTS. NOT YOUR FANTASY WORLD. I'm really sorry if I include facts in my posts, which you rarely (if at all) do. You put yourself out there, and are abusive. You should expect the same back. If you don't, you're a brittle little fucking snowflake that can't handle any truth at all. And you're pretty instable. So there's also that. by Indy! on June 27, 2023 7:29 pm One tgirl lashing out compared to all the other school shootings committed by rightwing racist gun nuts. You're still talking about the .005% like it's the standard, OD. by oldedude on June 27, 2023 7:41 pm It's still FACT. The biggest MASS MURDER IN SCHOOLS THIS YEAR is him/her. Your post means zero. Nothing. Just erase it off the face of the earth. by oldedude on June 27, 2023 7:44 pm And I'm not saying it's any standard at all. po made the (in her "mind" factual "evidence" that thousands of children are murdered by GOP rules). That is a LIE. I was just pointing that out to her. by Ponderer on June 27, 2023 7:56 pm "You notice there was no reaction until you stated openly you wanted to be able to groom children in our schools." -olde dude I never stated any such thing, openly or otherwise. You are a fuckingliar. "po made the (in her "mind" factual "evidence" that thousands of children are murdered by GOP rules). That is a LIE. -olde dude od, it only stands to reason that over the decades, thousands of children have been murdered because of the GOP standing in the way of sensible gun regulations. Children that would be alive had the sensible gun regulations the Democrats wanted to get through had gotten through. What... do you think the number is only in the hundreds...? by Ponderer on June 27, 2023 8:02 pm You'll notice that none of the MAGA Hats here bothered to deny anything I said in my opening post. They know I'm right. by HatetheSwamp on June 28, 2023 12:57 am Baha. No one here's MAGA. by HatetheSwamp on June 28, 2023 1:02 am Please. You guys snowflaked out over one trans Bud ad and a black mermaid. 🙄 Just reportin the news, there, Indy!. NEWSWEEK Bud Light Giving Away Beer for Free to Try to Save July 4 Sales newsweek.com by oldedude on June 28, 2023 4:32 am There was a black mermaid??? And I said before, I don't drink beer either, I really don't care. Do I think it's funny? Maybe? But I've got too much going on in my life to actually care about that. Maybe it's good so that smaller breweries sell more. Do I care that the left wants to be able to groom kids while teaching kids to lie to their parents (et al)? Yes. Do I care that parents can't read the books their kids are instructed to read in a school board meeting? yes. And again, do I care that teachers/school boards make the decision to withhold information about life changing events from parents? yes. Before you got here, we had long discussions about this. You're at the tail end of it without any of the background. You're making up more than what's been said. by oldedude on June 28, 2023 4:38 am "One tgirl lashing out compared to all the other school shootings committed by rightwing racist gun nuts. You're still talking about the .005% like it's the standard, OD." That is actually the largest mass murder this year in a school. And most of the mass murders come from the inner cities. Minority homicides (i.e. gang murders) which the limousine liberals like yourself chose to ignore. by Donna on June 28, 2023 5:06 pm Now don't you worry there, olde dude... No one here is blaming all white people for all the white supremacists or white nationalists committing so many mass school shootings and mass church shootings and mass synagogue shootings and mass mall shootings and mas grocery store shootings and and and and and and..... Well.... never you mind. You just cool your jets there, o-dude. Just calm down. Let that ol' blood pressure settle itself on down. I could tell you were right on the edge of your hair trigger ethnic reality panic going off. Just don't you worry. Everyone else, all the other minorities, are all far worse than white people ever are. It's never white people's fault. That's just woke propaganda. by Ponderer on June 28, 2023 5:09 pm ^^^^^That was of course me^^^^^ by oldedude on June 28, 2023 8:39 pm donna. po. whoeverinthefuckyouare, I was stating a FACT, which you apparently hate. The truth is that most mass shootings are done by minorities to minorities. You DID state (along with that racist indy) that white folk are responsible for "thousands of deaths" by guns, which neither of you can prove with actual facts. Neither of you actually bring facts in, so there's that. Each of you bring your "thoughts" as facts but can't back them up. So until you can. You're useless human beings. by HatetheSwamp on June 29, 2023 3:26 am The truth is that most mass shootings are done by minorities to minorities. White on white bigotry. I don't get it but it's far from uncommon among white woke limousine lib progressives. What it's about, I don't know...at all. by Ponderer on June 29, 2023 6:46 am "I was stating a FACT, which you apparently hate. The truth is that most mass shootings are done by minorities to minorities." -olde dude Balderdash. od, you haven't presented any "facts" in this thread supporting that. All we've seen from you in this thread is all-caps, baseless declarations to that effect with no linked attribution whatsoever. I know that you think that everyone should just accept that you are always right no matter what you say, but let us see where you are getting these "facts" from and then maybe we can discuss it and show you why you are wrong. You see, a lot of us come to our understandings of things by simply watching. And just from watching, the race of the vast majority of mass murderers I've seen are white. Usually Trump supporting white racists of some sort at that. But if you've actually got some "facts" that support your contention, I'd be happy to see them................... by oldedude on June 29, 2023 8:40 am In your defense. The MSM doesn't cover black on black crime. There are few non-local stations that make it an issue. There may be a 15 second spot on national news after a holiday weekend, but that's about it. Alarming rise in youth gun deaths breaks down very differently by race Since 2019, gun violence has become the leading cause of death among Americans under age 18, surpassing car accidents. A closer look at the numbers reveals even more alarming trends, especially among young African Americans. Let’s start by looking at just young people. An analysis of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by the Pew Research Center found that gun deaths among people under age 18 took a huge jump from 2019 to 2021. In 2019, about 1,700 young people died because of gun violence. By 2021, the figure was almost 2,600. That’s an increase of about 50% — eye-catching growth even in a country that has grown accustomed to stories of mass and random shootings. The time frame is important. Everyone remembers how much the Covid-19 pandemic shaped those years: People were locked down in their homes. Reports of tension and depression skyrocketed, crime rates rose, and young people weren’t immune. The numbers raise an important question about gun violence among young people, however. While mass school shootings rightly get a lot of attention, the CDC data suggests the gun problem with young people is much larger and more complicated. Gun deaths among those under 18 spiked when many students were “studying remotely” from home. And even more remarkable than the jump in gun deaths was the racial breakdown. In the 2021 data, the Pew Research Center found that Black children were hit much harder than other young people. Gun deaths per 100,000 BLACK 11.8 WHITE 2.3 LATINO 2.3 ASIAN 0.9 NOTE: In 2021, the White population of the US was 59.3%, Blacks (non-hispanic) were 12.6% of the population, Latinos at 18.9. The Disproportionate Impact of Guns on the Black Community The underinvestment in Black and Latinx communities has created areas of concentrated disadvantages, housing instability, and poverty, where the public health crisis of gun violence continues to impact. Black communities are disproportionately impacted by gun violence. Each day on average, 30 Black people are killed with guns,1 and more than 110 experience non-fatal injuries.2 Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3 58% of all people killed in firearm homicides are Black.4 nbcnews.com usafacts.org everytownsupportfund.org by Ponderer on June 29, 2023 9:56 am Oh I see the problem now. You have been talking about shootings while I have been talking about mass shootings. Apples and oranges. But I get what you're doing now. I have been talking about the huge number of children who have been killed in mass shootings in this country which MAGA Republicans apparently don't give a flyingfuck about, and how the vast majority of the shooters in mass shootings have been White. Which is a documented fact. (see Citation link #1) Being as you are loathe to face this explicit truth, you change the subject in a way that makes it look like what I'm saying isn't the case. Valiant effort! I liked how you did choose to focus on only one case of mass shootings that involved a trans person while ignoring the entire subject of mass shooters altogether otherwise. By the way, olde dude... Of the four trans shooters in mass public shootings (out of several hundred) in the last 5 years, three were White and one was Black. (see Citation link #2) So even there I am vindicated in my assessment. olde dude, your statistics on all shootings and the race of the shooters are most likely correct, and I acknowledge that. But you were only using those statistics to obfuscate the truth I was talking about. I wasn't talking about all shootings. I don't deny any of the statistics your citations spell out. What I was talking about was how the majority of shooters in mass shootings, such as the ones in schools, churches, dance clubs, malls, grocery stores and such that suck up the news cycle, have been White. I'm sorry that this fact is such an existential threat to you, but it's simply the truth. From 1998 to 2021, massshooters have been 57% White and 15% black. "'Mass public shootings' is defined as those cases where four or more people are killed at one point in time in a public place and not involving some other type of crime such as a gang fight or a robbery." -from link #1 I'm glad we were able to clear that up. olde dude, all shootings in this country are abominable and I do not downplay any of them. But dealing with the low hanging fruit of gun deaths in this country, i.e. mass shootings, is a good place to start with sensible gun laws. Gun laws that the MAGA Republicans want to stop from being implemented at all costs. They would rather placate their Overlord, the NRA, than save children from being slaughtered by the dozens in their classes. gunsamerica.com newsweek.com by Ponderer on June 29, 2023 10:19 am olde dude, are you familiar with the "Rat Park" experiments? They were intended to shine a light on what causes drug addiction, but I think it goes a long way in explaining what causes crime in many minority communities as well. en.wikipedia.org by oldedude on June 29, 2023 10:24 am You're not including "the rest of the story" as Paul would say... To use this for your myopic vision of your own hatred. List of mass shootings in the United States in 2023 They list the 272 incidents, covering the 351 dead, 1032 wounded, 6 at schools, 0 at places of worship. The vast majority of these were gang related and domestic violence. Im not sure at all, how the trans thing figured in. At all. According to The New York Times, there is no common profile of people who carry out mass shootings in the United States, except that they are mostly men.[50] By race, according to a study, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is about equal to the overall proportion of white people in the general population of the US.[51][52] According to the same study, Asians are overrepresented in mass shootings, having perpetrated 6.06% of attacks despite being 5.7% of the population.[53] The proportion of male mass shooters is considerably larger than the proportion of males in the general population.[52] According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50 percent of all mass shooters in the US.[54] According to the National Institute of Justice/The Violence project study, the demographics of shooters were 97.7% male, with an average age of 34.1 years, 52.3% white, 20.9% black, 8.1% latino, 6.4% asian, 4.2% middle eastern, and 1.8% native American. In 2021, the White population of the US was 59.3%, Blacks (non-hispanic) were 12.6% of the population, Latinos at 18.9. en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org by Ponderer on June 29, 2023 10:32 am olde dude, you can downplay and obfuscate the reality that most mass shooters are White any way you want to. But the fact remains that most mass shooters are White. Again, sorry for the existential threat that such a reality appears to be to you. by Indy! on June 29, 2023 10:33 am Here - let me help you figure it out, OD... And even more remarkable than the jump in gun deaths was the racial breakdown. In the 2021 data, the Pew Research Center found that Black children were hit much harder than other young people. Gun deaths per 100,000 BLACK 11.8 WHITE 2.3 LATINO 2.3 ASIAN 0.9 NOTE: In 2021, the White population of the US was 59.3%, Blacks (non-hispanic) were 12.6% of the population, Latinos at 18.9. The Disproportionate Impact of Guns on the Black Community The underinvestment in Black and Latinx communities has created areas of concentrated disadvantages, housing instability, and poverty, where the public health crisis of gun violence continues to impact. Black communities are disproportionately impacted by gun violence. Each day on average, 30 Black people are killed with guns,1 and more than 110 experience non-fatal injuries.2 Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.3 58% of all people killed in firearm homicides are Black.4 by oldedude on June 29, 2023 11:35 am I shoulda known she wouldn't read the whole thing. by Indy! on June 29, 2023 1:39 pm Nobody falls for the info dump thing anymore, OD. by Ponderer on June 29, 2023 6:31 pm od, I've told you I don't read your whole posts. It's not worth wading through the 98.7% of non sequitur obfuscation to ever find the 1.3% of anything relevant to the conversation in there somewhere. by oldedude on June 29, 2023 7:01 pm Thusly, you proved me correct. Thank you. Go To Top

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