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Joe Manchin's solution: Raise the age requirement from 18-21

By Donna
June 6, 2022 1:04 pm
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Psychopath alert.

18-21. That's it. To buy a weapon like the AR-15 which was designed to vaporize large numbers of people quickly. It has no other purpose. That's why many of the children at Robb Elementary were in closed caskets.

“We know we can do something that would have prevented this. Raising the age, making sure that the age at least gives us a chance to work with that person, see and evaluate if they have a little maturity to them,” Manchin said Monday.

Manchin added he’s “open to doing something that makes sense” regarding age-based restrictions, adding he believes raising the minimum age to purchase semi-automatic weapons could potentially curb gun violence.


OMG, he thinks the problem is lack of "maturity. *facepalm*

How about let's ban these weapons of war? We've banned other weapons of war - why not these?


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  1. by Curt_Anderson on June 6, 2022 1:19 pm
    I agree with Manchin. See my article below. It would save countless lives.

    Raising the age to 21 can be done without passing a constitutional amendment. Raising the age for purchase and/or possession is already done in some states. Federal law for buying a pistol is 21. Politics is the art of the possible. Manchin's suggestion is possible and could feasibly get enough congressional votes.
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  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 6, 2022 1:33 pm

    Right, Curt.

    The compelling reality in this debate is that the Second Amendment exists. I understand that Donna's frustrated but the truth is that any measure that disrespects the Constitution will be challenged and shot down by the Courts.

    I'm certain that gun control will be a small part of the measures that will be taken to address the gun violence problem but, face it Philadelphia and Chicago have very strict gun laws and oodles of gun deaths.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on June 6, 2022 2:04 pm
    "...face it Philadelphia and Chicago have very strict gun laws and oodles of gun deaths." HtS

    I know that's a common refrain among conservatives. But don't you realize how illogical that is? Those cities are not remote islands.

    Chicago for example borders Indiana where the guns are much easier to get. The mass killing in Buffalo was made possible by the shooter being able to buy the magazine and ammunition in Pennsylvania which is not allowed to be sold in New York.



  4. by Donna on June 6, 2022 2:30 pm
    So you'd stop where Manchin stopped, Curt?


  5. by Donna on June 6, 2022 2:37 pm
    We didn't need to amend the constitution to ban assault weapons before.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on June 6, 2022 3:16 pm

    It strikes me that simply banning assault weapons would be a solution. I understand that the Doddering Old Fool wants to ban 9mms, too.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on June 6, 2022 3:38 pm
    Donna,
    Why would we stop at what Manchin suggests? That legislation wouldn't preclude further legislation. As has been said about legislation, "good is not the enemy of the perfect".

    The earlier ban during Clinton's administration didn't work out well for Democrats. The west and south in particular resented it. Democrats lost control of both the Senate and House, the latter for the first time in 40 years. Al Gore lost largely because of it, losing his own state of Tennessee.

    I don't think Democrats are eager to stick their heads in a noose again. Congress outlawed Saturday Night Specials purchases by those under 21 on a bi-partisan basis.

    The assault weapon ban did not do much to reduce the incidence of gun violence overall.

    However, it did reduce the number of people killed in mass shootings. But as the graph in my article to which I link to shows, outlawing the purchase and possession by those under 21 would practically eliminate all the school shootings.

    A ban on assault weapons, no matter how inclusive, would not end murder and mayhem. The shooter in Uvalde was in that classroom for an hour. He didn't need a rapid fire weapon. But if that shooter wasn't able buy an AR-15 on his 18th birthday, as he did, chances are that 19 students and their teachers would be alive. Same goes for Buffalo.



  8. by Donna on June 6, 2022 3:39 pm
    I agree, Hts. The only purpose of an assault weapon is to completely obliterate large numbers of human beings quickly. For that reason, they shouldn't be legal.

    I haven't heard about Biden wanting to ban 9mm guns.

    But point taken by Curt. That graph says it all. Weird that <21 males account for such an overwhelming percentage of the carnage. But I also think we should go a step further and permanently ban assault weapons and create a universal background check system with no loopholes which is supported by 90% of Americans.



  9. by Donna on June 6, 2022 3:44 pm
    To Curt's commentary on the modest effects of the assault ban -

    But as Biden correctly cited, mass murders almost tripled after the 1994 - 2004 assault ban was lifted.


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