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by Curt_Anderson on February 28, 2025 4:47 pm Are you hoping a few senators bearing long knives will confront Trump in the Capitol? by Ponderer on February 28, 2025 5:20 pm ..... by Ponderer on February 28, 2025 5:22 pm Hope springs eternal... by Ponderer on February 28, 2025 5:23 pm And heavy, blunt objects would certainly suffice. by oldedude on February 28, 2025 6:23 pm The most interesting part of this is there is nothing wrong if the dims and liberal sheep murder and take over the government for real. And yet the right gets blamed for shit they don't even do and the dims say "it's a threat to democracy" which by now holds no meaning whatsoever. The libs won't let people pray outside of an abortion clinic, but defend the vampires grooming six year olds, that are also perping on the children. princess, that last one was specifically for you. You'll ALWAYS defend the perps, the pedos that are doing this, so I'm going to let you just prove my point true. And what's interesting is that you are personally "hurt" that I mention them. Of course, you (et al) don't give a shit about the children, I mean, look how you turned out? Which is exactly my point. Then there are those that have their panties in a wad over the fiction that officers were shot and murdered on J6. It's funny that pedojoe pardoned his family in "perpetuity," so they supposedly can murder someone on the mall in DC in front of thousands of people, and can't get charged. (po, this might be a person to murder trumpster! Yeah, that's the ticket! They can't be tried! WOW, is THAT a great justice system or what! On the flip side, trumpster pardoned the J6 offenders for that particular "act." Okay, some have been arrested for separate charges post J6 (because they're assholes and should be in jail). Good for the cops and our legal system. You get a chance. Prosecution fucked it up you get a "retry." You fuck up again? You get arrested. You get your day in court. You get convicted? Go to jail. Done. I don't see why the libtards are making this difficult. by Ponderer on March 1, 2025 6:29 am "The most interesting part of this is there is nothing wrong if the dims and liberal sheep murder and take over the government for real. And yet the right gets blamed for shit they don't even do and the dims" -olde dude What in the fucking hell are you talking about for fucksake??????? I swear to GOD it's usually impossible for me to get past even the first sentence of pig-ignorant asininity in one of your diatribes without having to rub my eyes in disbelief of the sheer stupidity of what I'm reading. You Trump apologists are having to go into overdrive with the idiotic, reality-ignoring stupidity. It's literally nauseating. by oldedude on March 1, 2025 8:13 am Let's see, you supporting murdering the president and other politicians. You supporting burning down cities. Those just for two. by Ponderer on March 1, 2025 3:47 pm olde dude... Didn't you support killing enemies of the United States on foreign soil during war time? Weren't you complaining your ass off about how the Dim administrations were restricting you in killing America's direct enemies during war time on foreign soil? All that Standards of Operations or whatever it was? So, are you now against killing enemy combatants operating under orders of a hostile enemy government, directly combatting Americans? Even when they are combatting us on our own home soil? by Donna on March 1, 2025 4:18 pm "It's funny that pedojoe pardoned his family in "perpetuity," so they supposedly can murder someone on the mall in DC in front of thousands of people, and can't get charged."" - od What's even funnier is that when I Googled Biden pardon perpetuity, I didn't get any hits that contained the word "perpetuity", which you put in quotes. I'll give you a chance to amend your statement. by oldedude on March 1, 2025 4:25 pm The five preemptive pardons were issued to James Biden, Joe's younger brother; Sara Jones Biden, James' wife; Valerie Biden Owens, Joe's younger sister; John T. Owens', Valerie's husband; and Francis W. Biden, Joe's younger brother. While he was sitting in the Capitol Rotunda attending the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, Biden announced the preemptive pardons for his siblings and in-laws. So he used the term "pre-emptive" meaning that anything they are charged with in the future cannot be charged. This goes until they die. The term "in perpetuity" is a legal phrase that means something lasts forever or indefinitely. This is why you can't figure out why you need special right! by Donna on March 1, 2025 4:40 pm Do you think that the law should protect any demographic group from discrimination? by oldedude on March 1, 2025 4:47 pm You keep asking the same question phrased differently. by Donna on March 1, 2025 4:52 pm That's because you haven't answered it. You've only spoken about the issue as it pertains to TGs. Btw, that new Iowa law left gay and lesbian people alone and didn't remove their protected status. Are you good with that? by Donna on March 1, 2025 4:53 pm I got the two topic threads confused. My bad. by oldedude on March 1, 2025 4:56 pm That's because you haven't answered it. You've only spoken about the issue as it pertains to TGs. I thought that was the subject matter. And you're all good regarding the thread. by Curt_Anderson on March 1, 2025 4:59 pm OD, No, a pardon doesn’t extend to future crimes. A president's power to pardon is not restricted by time, as long as the crime was committed before the pardon is granted. The perpetuity means the pardon doesn’t expire. If future crimes were pardonable,Trump would have already given himself or his sons immunity from any and all future crimes. by Donna on March 1, 2025 5:15 pm Read the text of Biden's announcement on pardons. He doesn't specify crimes for the pardons he issued for members of his family. I'm not a legal expert, but I think the announcement was poorly written. bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov by oldedude on March 1, 2025 5:19 pm You didn't read much about them, did you. The five preemptive pardons were issued to James Biden, Joe's younger brother; Sara Jones Biden, James' wife; Valerie Biden Owens, Joe's younger sister; John T. Owens', Valerie's husband; and Francis W. Biden, Joe's younger brother. While he was sitting in the Capitol Rotunda attending the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, Biden announced the preemptive pardons for his siblings and in-laws. So what is a "Preemptive Pardon" you may ask? Keep reading. Unlike traditional forms of clemency, preemptive pardons are given, as Professor Rachel Barkow notes, “before someone has actually been convicted—or even before they’ve been charged or investigated.” That’s what Biden did today. All the people named in Biden’s announcement appeared to be likely targets of the Trump administration. By offering them pardons before Trump took control in Washington, Biden turned his frequently expressed worry about whether the new president had any real commitment to the Constitution into action. abcnews.go.com verdict.justia.com by Donna on March 1, 2025 5:40 pm I was just commenting on Biden's formal announcement. by Donna on March 1, 2025 5:42 pm For what crime did he issue a pardon to Valerie Owens Biden? by Donna on March 1, 2025 5:43 pm Excuse me, I meant Valerie Biden Owens. by Ponderer on March 1, 2025 5:52 pm "OD, No, a pardon doesn’t extend to future crimes. A president's power to pardon is not restricted by time, as long as the crime was committed before the pardon is granted. The perpetuity means the pardon doesn’t expire." -Curt And this is of course entirely correct. "While he was sitting in the Capitol Rotunda attending the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, Biden announced the preemptive pardons for his siblings and in-laws. So he used the term "pre-emptive" meaning that anything they are charged with in the future cannot be charged. This goes until they die. The term "in perpetuity" is a legal phrase that means something lasts forever or indefinitely. This is why you can't figure out why you need special right!" -olde dude So olde dude was in fact filled to capacity with shit in his demented fever dream quotes that never happened in reality. He was quoting the voices in his head. by oldedude on March 2, 2025 8:00 am So you're going to charge a dead guy?????? I think it was nothing more than a "do you still beat your wife" question. Except I didn't expect curt to stoop that low and stoopid. I guess I was wrong. The FACT of the matter is that none of the pedojoe crime family can be charged for any crime. Period. so now I'm warned curt. Don't trust you. You'll end up doxing me like she did Lead (more than once). I didn't think you needed to feel better about yourself, but maybe so. It's a shame really. I knew she was a scammer and a liar, but I did have some faith in you. Oh well. by Donna on March 2, 2025 11:24 am "The FACT of the matter is that none of the pedojoe crime family can be charged for any crime. Period." -olde dude Curt, correct me if I am wrong, but weren't you saying that the pardons that Biden gave to his family members can only be applied to crimes committed before the pardons were granted? And isn't that in fact the true and accurate reality here? Period? It just seems to me that someone saying, "none of the [Biden] family can be charged for any crime. Period.", would naturally mean that they are including being charged for any future crimes as well. Wouldn't it? And isn't that just wrong? Period? by oldedude on March 3, 2025 5:50 am Curt may have said it, but it's not correct. by oldedude on March 3, 2025 6:06 am Long story short. The "president" sets the time limit on this one. His crime family will never be charged. Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for members of his family in one of his final acts as president In his first network TV interview since his presidential victory, Trump vowed to use the first day of his second Oval Office term to pardon people convicted for their roles in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington by a pro-Trump mob, even considering clemency for the more than 900 people who have pleaded guilty. He also said members of the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6, namely co-chairs Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Rep. Liz Cheney, R. Wyo., should be punished. "It would be over a period of time, potentially going back to 2016, where he could pardon them for any potential offenses or real offenses that may have been committed or charged," Ornstein said. Under a section called the "Commander-in-chief clause," Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution says the president "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." "He does not need to wait until someone is charged, tried or convicted," said Jeffrey Crouch, an assistant professor of American politics at American University and author of the book "The Presidential Pardon Power." "The Supreme Court has recognized the president’s flexibility in this area." abcnews.go.com npr.org newsweek.com criminallawlibraryblog.com by Ponderer on March 3, 2025 6:32 am A president cannot pardon anyone for future crimes they have not yet committed. by HatetheSwamp on March 3, 2025 6:55 am Ah, good! Our Ivy League law school professor has chimed in. by Ponderer on March 3, 2025 7:43 am How predictable! Our Village Idiot felt compelled to reminded us of his worthless existence. by Curt_Anderson on March 3, 2025 7:54 am “Curt may have said it, but it's not correct.” —OD I am correct. A president cannot pardon someone for “future crimes”. It is true that the recipient of the pardon need not be charged or convicted of a crime. The crime does not even need to be known. But the crime in question had to have happened prior to the pardon. OD, You may be thinking of 007 James Bond who had a license to kill. We don’t have that here. by oldedude on March 3, 2025 11:50 am If your biden crime family members are still involved in the corruption, bribery, etc. They can't charge them with those crimes because they're holdovers from the crimes while he was in his orifice. It's a blanket. 007? I hadn't even thought of that. I was thinking more about "minority Report." or maybe in pedojoe's case "Law Abiding Citizen," Serpico, or "The Sentinel." All of those illegally use the federal government against the people. Just like pedojoe. by Curt_Anderson on March 3, 2025 12:03 pm OD, A person or a confederate has to be a current office holder for there to be a prosecutable case of bribery or corruption. If you know of exceptions I’d like to hear them. by meagain on March 3, 2025 1:54 pm I would be interested to know why you continue this "crime family" charge. OD. I have lightly researched it in the past, and the findings I see are that there is no direct evidence for any of the allegations. They are from one man's oral evidence in many instances and from unnamed sources in others. Perhaps you have some more recent information that is not just libelous. by HatetheSwamp on March 3, 2025 2:32 pm You do know that Hunter Biden is a convicted felon. Eh? (Eh, get it? A little Canadian lingo,there.) justice.gov by Curt_Anderson on March 3, 2025 2:46 pm HtS, So is Donald Trump a convicted felon. I don't see you continuously post about the "Trump crime family". by oldedude on March 3, 2025 2:55 pm Here I am to answer. I know you're going to say that taking a diamond as a bribe isn't a "crime." nor is money laundering. But it is. In the US, CA, and GB. In the US, it's 10 years, and $10K for every wire transfer you made that falls under the money laundering statute. That puts pedojr in the 200 years in federal range. And that's just the money laundering. There's a whole slew of other things such as conspiracy charges for each, violating trade and other laws, just a whole slew of fun stuff! pedojr also brought a diamond from china, which mysteriously "disappeared."[1] From 2013 through 2018 Hunter Biden and his company brought in about $11 million via his roles as an attorney and a board member with a Ukrainian firm accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman now accused of fraud, according to an NBC News analysis of a copy of Biden’s hard drive and iCloud account and documents released by Republicans on two Senate committees. The documents and the analysis raise questions about national security, business ethics and potential legal exposure. In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes. NBC News was first to report that an ex-business partner had warned Biden he should amend his tax returns to disclose $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian firm, Burisma. GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, they’ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Biden’s income went to his father, President Joe Biden. He also laundered money for a Russian oligarch.[2] From 2013 through 2018 Hunter Biden and his company brought in about $11 million via his roles as an attorney and a board member with a Ukrainian firm accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman now accused of fraud, according to an NBC News analysis of a copy of Biden’s hard drive and iCloud account and documents released by Republicans on two Senate committees. The documents and the analysis, which don’t show what he did to earn millions from his Chinese partners, raise questions about national security, business ethics and potential legal exposure. In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes. NBC News was first to report that an ex-business partner had warned Biden he should amend his tax returns to disclose $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian firm, Burisma. GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, they’ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Biden’s income went to his father, President Joe Biden. nypost.com nbcnews.com by Curt_Anderson on March 3, 2025 3:28 pm OD, I thought you were going to make a case about future crimes. You are dredging up old allegations, for which he has received a carte blanche pardon. Anyway, to make a case for bribery or corruption, the prosecution would need to prove that there was a policy enacted that would not have happened otherwise if not for the gift or money that Hunter received. Did Hunter Biden capitalize on his last name? Almost certainly he did. So have the Trump offspring, his son-in-law, Donald Trump himself, sons and daughters of politicians and nepo-babies everywhere. Do you think George W Bush would have made money in the oil business without his family name? Mitt Romney's father was a governor. Without their famous last names they might be managing a Circle K. Back to Hunter, I highly doubt that he would be able to exploit his family name now that his father is out of office. So not much chance of committing a future crime. by HatetheSwamp on March 3, 2025 3:46 pm "HtS, So is Donald Trump a convicted felon. I don't see you continuously post about the "Trump crime family"." I was merely correcting meagain. by meagain on March 4, 2025 7:03 am " I was merely correcting meagain." Are we wrong to assume that you have a functioning brain? How is that correcting me? Hunter Biden's conviction does not make a crime family. by oldedude on March 4, 2025 8:01 am It does because he was 1. using the biden name and position to gain favor with a foreign government. 2. the money went through the family bank accounts. 3. pedojoe got him the job that put him in contact with the money. So you have graft, corruption, and bribery that all the family is involved in. pedojoe's brother received a $2BILLION contract for Iraq while joe was VP and awarded the contracts, which violate the OPM standards for contracts. joe should have recused himself once his "brother" applied for the contract. Interestingly enough, 10% of the money started working its way through the banking records of the family, and eventually hit joe's accounts. It's the same way cartels launder money. Except the pedojoe crime family is too stupid to hide it. by meagain on March 4, 2025 9:59 am You should try credible sources. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 10:08 am The pot calling the kettle black! by oldedude on March 4, 2025 12:00 pm crap. Sorry, I had the sources out, I didn't list them. That IS my bad. Here are some of them, since I'm limited to four. msn.com oversight.house.gov nypost.com politifact.com by meagain on March 4, 2025 12:19 pm I looked at only one of your sources, OD, and you know very well that it is just a report of what has been shown to be false. Yoy also know that the FBI informant has also been charged with that falsehood about the $5 million. However, I have no intention of bothering further with this question. I find it sickening how HtS, particularly, slanders a man who did more for America than any since FDR. Just restoring its reputation with its allies after Trump 1 would have been an achievement. There is too much that is real right now. by oldedude on March 4, 2025 12:47 pm You notice, the money trail on the biden crime family is done through FinCEN using bank records. They had nothing to do with any informant. The information on the diamond and the money from russians was admitted to and followed by banking records. Again. Nothing to do with an informant. Lastly, the $20BIL that pedojim got for contracts is open source and with OMB (Office of Management and Budget). Even obomber thought it was a bad idea and shouldn't have been done. by oldedude on March 4, 2025 12:52 pm And NOTHING I mentioned had to do with Burisma. Please don't make up stories to hide your fabrication. Go To Top

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