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Sometimes Someone Does the Right Thing By oldedude February 25, 2025 8:07 pm Category: Law (0.0 from 0 votes) Rules of the Post Write A New Article How To Post Here

I know that throughout the trumpster "trials" I was pretty much a PITA with the requirements of "prosecutorial conduct, or in those cases and this case "MISCONDUCT." This is something that can't be waivered from. At all. Ever. I also read the writings by Justice Sotomayor. I just ditto'd her feelings about this being a non-negotiable aspect of our justice system.

Having worked helping to build numerous cases during my tenure with the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area and knowing how hard we worked to ensure "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God." Was an essential key to presenting a trial.

The really sad thing is the trial was in 1997 and it's only coming to light now. It "should" have been done right then and there. Oklahoma owes this guy a huge debt I doubt they'll ever be able to repay. They gave him a "new trial." I don't think that's enough, AND I'm not sure about just dropping everything either. That is up to Oklahoma. So to Mr Glossip, good luck with your future.

Supreme Court throws out Oklahoma death row inmate's conviction over flawed trial

The Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out Oklahoma death row inmate Richard Glossip’s murder conviction because a key witness lied in court and prosecutors withheld information about him.

Glossip’s latest appeal received a major boost when the state attorney general, Republican Gentner Drummond, agreed that the conviction was unsound and asked the court to rule in his favor.

The decision, a rare victory for a death row inmate at the conservative court, means prosecutors now have to decide whether to put Glossip on trial again. The court was divided 5-3 on throwing out Glossip's conviction, with conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch not participating.

Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor, writing for the court, said the prosecution "violated its constitutional obligation to correct false testimony." As a result, "Glossip is entitled to a new trial," she wrote.

Glossip, 62, was convicted of arranging the murder in 1997 of Barry Van Treese, his boss at the Oklahoma City motel where they worked.

He has been on death row since 1998 and has faced imminent execution on several occasions.


*prosecutorial miscondunct
Prosecutorial misconduct refers to unethical or illegal behavior by prosecutors during criminal cases. Examples include:

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Withholding exculpatory evidence from the defense.
Making false statements.
Presenting inadmissible evidence to the jury.
Improper comments during closing arguments.

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by Indy! on February 26, 2025 9:03 am This applies to... what? Just another of your theatrical presentations where you pretend to teach something about law that the rest of us learned in elementary school? by meagain on February 26, 2025 9:42 am To think, America still has the death sentence long after most democratic countries ended it. Only the USA, Japan, Singapore, and Taiwan still have it. All killers from the US have to do is get established in another country and they are safe. They won't be extradited if they ace a death sentence. by Indy! on February 26, 2025 12:08 pm Or move to a state where they have the law, but never enforce it. Florida has the death penalty, but it takes a long, long time for it to be implemented even if there is no doubt about the crime. Ted Bundy sat on death row for something like 12 years. by Indy! on February 26, 2025 12:09 pm Oh - but just to clarify - I am 100% against the death penalty. It's not a deterrent (obviously) and it's not cost effective either. There's really no advantage to it and it's often been used to basically murder the wrong person (especially in the red states like Texas). by oldedude on February 26, 2025 11:16 pm I knew it was too much legal talk for you, and you wouldn't get it. You fought over this before, so I knew you couldn't buy a clue. The point is that years ago, the prosecution screwed up evidence. They didn't say anything. The sentence was vacated (or whatever) depending on what the state wants to do. Is that too tough for either of you? Prosecutorial misconduct was why DOJ didn't use the Steele Dossier in any trial. DOJ was scared of sending their own people to jail when it was found out. One DOJ "lawyer" was caught, and was fired, disbarred, etc. You whined incessantly about already "knowing" about this, but even when it's talked about by NAME, you still don't understand it. So yes, you really should have paid attention in middle school. I don't feel like my time was wasted on having to re-teach this for you on a grade-school/ middle-school level yet again, if it can actually stick for the 20th time. meagain, the issue is the levels of appeals that a perp gets. There are 27 states that have the death penalty, and states have a accelerated system the courts have agreed on for getting it done in a much shorter period of time. Alabama, Florida, Texas, Missouri, and Oklahoma. There's also a heated discussion about execution here also. But that wasn't a part of this. Thusly, the title you didn't read. by Indy! on February 27, 2025 12:00 am We “got it” the first time you whined about it. It only seems complicated to you because this is obviously all new stuff in your world. Not surprising considering you just learned about legal precedent a few days ago. 🙄 by oldedude on February 27, 2025 7:01 am Obviously you couldn't/ didn't. OR you just choose to throw a dart at a sentence, and bitch about that to make a remark that makes zero sense in the subject. Like I said in the title, I'm pretty happy for this guy. And I hear that before DOGE hit, DOJ was looking for those who lied at trial to hire them so they could LIE in some other cases against trumpster. They figured if these folks could lie this long, they'd be worth hiring into DOJ/FBI. That's stuff a six-year-old with a massive inferiority complex will do. I just keep telling myself there's no difference between you and them. by meagain on February 27, 2025 7:03 am I don't know what there was to "get," OD. It is all very straightforward, and it happens a lot from what I read in American crime novels. However, you use a case that highlighted the barbarism of a system that has a death penalty. A long time ago, when you might have been a hoped-for addition or a massive disappointment to your parents, I read something about a massive legal study in the US. It concluded that in the first half of the 20th. century, 400 innocents were executed. by Indy! on February 27, 2025 9:13 am He's so far out of his element it's comical. But at least he's trying. 🙂 by oldedude on February 27, 2025 10:26 am Wrongagain- FIRST, when did I "support" the death penalty? The article wasn't about that AT ALL. You both need to pull your collective heads out out of your butts and quit fabricating (read LYING). by oldedude on February 27, 2025 10:30 am . ...it happens a lot from what I read in American crime novels Yeah.... and Gomer Pyle and Mayberry RFD were both "Documentaries."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is what happens when you cross fact and fiction. And you don't know where one starts, and one finishes....😎 And what's funny is that princess is doing the same thing! by Indy! on February 27, 2025 11:49 am Give us an example of where I crossed facts with fiction. Cue another longwinded post based on nothing but OD's sex-obsessed imagination in 3... 2... 1... by oldedude on February 27, 2025 12:07 pm We “got it” the first time you whined about it. It only seems complicated to you because this is obviously all new stuff in your world. Not surprising considering you just learned about legal precedent a few days ago. I already told you about working with the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area for years. Again, it isn't what you "want" to hear, so you're just a little fucking liar about everything. by Indy! on February 27, 2025 1:23 pm The way you get so excited and feel like you have to explain every little detail tells me it's new to you. Whether you believe it or not - I highly doubt you are educating anyone on this board, Odorous. If people somehow didn't learn that in their general education, things like "precedent" are explained every day on TV on shows like Law & Order. So you're the only one who seems to think it's some mysterious legal standard no one else is familiar with. The only LOGICAL conclusion is it's new to YOU. by oldedude on February 27, 2025 2:17 pm Well, I know you're to stupid and uneducated to understand this, consider the stupid responses, REALLY stoopid "assumptions." I'm sure that soon, you try to tell me some "police" force wanted you to set up a case for them. That would make sense because you don't care about another living (or dead) person, Uncle Ernie. or is it Ephialtes? Your credibility is about like it is with your "family." You know, the one that calls you Uncle Ernie? and who won't leave you alone with any of their children? And they're tired of the questions as the kids grow up, "why is uncle ernie under grandpa's dresses?" And what's that on his face when he comes out? by oldedude on February 27, 2025 2:33 pm The point is that you've argued with ma at nauseum about this very issue, so I KNOW that either you don't understand the concept or you're such a little nazi that you'll never quit. Either way, you're a useless human being, if you can be called that. Your family knows it, and your buddies in the cartel know it, considering you're only place at the party is to be the party favor, which is where you really like to be. Oh, did you read that now your "buddies" are working with bomb makers from the middle east. This is done to murder people. Especially your most hated people Police Officers. They just killed a couple of people. Farmers from the US. Are you going to count them in with the numbers Hamas has murdered? Or do you just forget about them like you always do to help you make up stories about animals that sport murder infants. You protect them, as you do pedophiles. Continuously and unwaveringly. and of course, mommy and daddy. by Indy! on February 27, 2025 3:49 pm This is exactly what I was referring to in the other thread. Everytime you are busted on something obvious - like your unfamiliarity with the legal definition of "precedent" - you lose your shit and start making up longwinded fairy tale novellas filled with lies about whoever you are mad at any given moment. Because you have the disposition and temper of a child. Which tells me if you were actually in the military (doubtful) - they would never have given you any important job. No, more likely you were doing exactly what I said you were doing - policing up cig butts in the parking lot when you weren't scrubbing toilets with a toothbrush. by meagain on February 28, 2025 7:15 am First, OD, I did not say you support the death penalty. I don't know whether you do or not. I have a suspicion but no evidence. The issue is not levels of aooeal. It is the death penalty to no death penalty. As for crossing facts with fiction, Grisham wrote a book about it. He also wrote fiction based on actual cases of wrongful death. If you were the well-read man you suggest you are, you would know that the greatest truths are to be found in fiction and poetry. All the great novels are about the conflict between God and Human instincts: between good and evil. All truth is found in that. by oldedude on February 28, 2025 12:44 pm Yeah.... I was saddened, that at 7 years old, I found out Gomer Pyle wasn't a documentary... apparently you and princess haven't figured that out yet. Fiction is fiction. by oldedude on February 28, 2025 3:00 pm RE: #12. indy- I wasn't talking to you or about you. You're the narcissist that truly believes he's the center of everyone's world and in reality, no one cares and is rarely actually talking to it. Go To Top

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