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US sides with Russia in UN resolutions on Ukraine By Donna February 25, 2025 2:44 pm Category: International (5.0 from 1 vote) Rules of the Post Write A New Article How To Post Here

I guess we're part of the Exis of Evil now. What a sad day for America.

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The US has twice sided with Russia in votes at the UN to mark the third anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the Trump administration's change of stance on the war.

First the two countries opposed a European-drafted resolution condemning Moscow's actions and supporting Ukraine's territorial integrity, which was passed by the UN General Assembly (UNGA) in New York.

Then they backed a US-drafted resolution at the UN Security Council calling for an end to the conflict but containing no criticism of Russia.

The Security Council resolution was passed but two key US allies, the UK and France, abstained in the vote after their attempts to amend the wording were vetoed.

The competing resolutions were tabled as French President Emmanuel Macron visited President Donald Trump at the White House in an attempt to address their sharp differences over the war.

On Thursday, British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer will likewise visit the new American leader.

Trump's White House has upended the transatlantic alliance, currying favour with Moscow and casting doubt on America's long-term commitment to European security.

That rift was laid bare on the floor of the 193-member UNGA on Monday as US diplomats pushed their limited resolution mourning the loss of life during the "Russia-Ukraine conflict" and calling for a swift end to it.

European diplomats tabled a more detailed text, blaming Russia for its full-scale invasion, and supporting Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

"We need to reconfirm that the aggression should be condemned and discredited, not rewarded," said Ukrainian Deputy Foreign Minister Mariana Betsa.

UNGA members backed the European resolution by 93 votes but, extraordinarily, the US did not abstain but actually voted against it, along with Russia, Israel, North Korea, Sudan, Belarus, Hungary and 11 other states, with 65 abstentions.

The UNGA also passed the US resolution but only after it was amended to include language supporting Ukraine, which led to the US abstaining.

At the much more powerful UN Security Council, which has 15 members, the unamended US resolution was passed by 10 votes, with the UK, France, Denmark, Greece and Slovenia abstaining.

America's acting envoy to the UN, Dorothy Camille Shea, described the US resolution as a "simple historic statement... that looks forward, not backwards. A resolution focused on one simple idea: ending the war".

Rarely has the US been so at odds with its supposed European allies.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine three years ago, the Security Council has been deadlocked by the power of Russia, one of its five permanent members, to veto any resolution there.

For this reason the UNGA has been the main forum for debating the war but its resolutions are not legally binding for member states, unlike those of the Security Council.

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So how do y'all feel about your country joining the Axis of Evil?

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by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2025 2:52 pm I may be wrong now. But I don't think so. Give this two weeks... people with open brains will agree. Trump is playing chess, y'nes are playing checkers. View Video by Donna on February 25, 2025 3:08 pm Президент Трамп is trying to coerce President Zelenskyy to give up a portion, as much as half, of its mineral rights to him. That's the only "chess" I'm seeing. Imagine if FDR had prefaced helping out Churchhill fight Hitler with a shameful quid pro quo like that. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2025 3:29 pm Yeah, well, you were a devoted supporter of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" practice of tossing money to Zelenskyy with nothing in return PLUS the watching passively while ended democracy by canceling elections and ending freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Trump's getting something out of our commitment... and, and here's the brilliance. Next time Russia attacks Ukraine, it will also be attacking a vital US defense interest. Check and mate! by Donna on February 25, 2025 4:43 pm Why do you hate America, you fucking Ruskie? by meagain on February 25, 2025 5:04 pm " tossing money to Zelenskyy with nothing in return PLUS the watching passively while ended democracy by canceling elections and ending freedom of speech and freedom of religion." You really are sick Fascist. Countries don't hold elections when their country is under assault by a foreign power that is occupying its territory. And no country demands payment or control of that country which is fighting to preserve democracy for the world not just itself. It is vile beyond words. The most mercenary and heartless action I could imagine. by meagain on February 25, 2025 5:06 pm Trump is not playing chess. He hasn't the brains for it. He has an animal cunning and that is about all. All he knows is extortion from weaker entities. by Donna on February 25, 2025 5:07 pm I consider Hts a traitor. I don't pal around with traitors. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2025 2:58 am Traitor? It's time for you to take a break from the TDS. Spend a day binging SpongeBob or go to the library and check out three or four Poirot whodunits. by Ponderer on February 26, 2025 6:34 am Well, in all fairness, Hate and all other MAGA Hats are accessories to a traitor. Which... I guess is essentially the same thing. by oldedude on February 26, 2025 8:39 am Give this two weeks... people with open brains will agree. Trump is playing chess, y'nes are playing checkers. I disagree, they're still wondering why half the board is one color, and half the other. So actually understanding "how" to negotiate is off the table. I go back to meagain who touted "Why are you involved if you don't get everything you want? is at the basis of the "negotiation" "talents." The libs are bringing their chalk to play hopscotch. Президент Трамп is trying to coerce President Zelenskyy to give up a portion, as much as half, of its mineral rights to him. That's the only "chess" I'm seeing. I also see; Move into NATO (or not), money from US/ Europeans, what land will each gain and lose (we're talking Ukraine and Russia) Ukranian mineral rights negotiation (It's in Ukraine, it's not "ours") If we actually "get" minerals from Ukraine, are we "buying" them? Is this being used as war reparations? Long term contracts? What happens if Russia tries to take the region? ENSURE a lasting peace, not a "ceasefire." US "rights" to the Black Sea in both the military (giving rights for the US to have electronic, communications, and an "airbase" in the country to "monitor" activity in the region) and civilian (potentially opening up the US to commercial shipping) Why do you hate America, you fucking Ruskie? Actually, it's us (Lead and I) that are hoping for a win here. In between supporting terrorists and burning cities, the left has done more damage to the US. They can't even identify what a terrorist group is, the threat, and what they are doing. Not only that, but they also actively support these groups. Also the right for them to murder their own children without repercussions. So you'll get little to no empathy from me when they come to murder you for how you "feel." tossing money to Zelenskyy with nothing in return PLUS the watching passively while ended democracy by canceling elections and ending freedom of speech and freedom of religion." You really are sick Fascist. Countries don't hold elections when their country is under assault by a foreign power that is occupying its territory. And no country demands payment or control of that country which is fighting to preserve democracy for the world not just itself. It is vile beyond words. The most mercenary and heartless action I could imagine. wrongagain, Why do you insist on arguing at the drop of a hat? Both you and princess are filled with the same continually hate-filled speech. Had you actually read the numerous exchanges between Lead and I, that's a point I've brought up. And yet, that's called a "choice." That's all. It's really simple and not an excuse to. I think that considering the circumstances and background of the country, he's not doing poorly. It's that whole comparison issue I always talk about. You are ONLY absolute. I understand that politics (especially global politics) is on a sliding scale. I think Lead does also. I consider Hts a traitor. I don't pal around with traitors. Says the person who supports graft and corruption with our state enemies, and those who have PROMISED to murder all of us in the country🤣. by meagain on February 26, 2025 10:07 am It is not reparations. It is payment for the $500 billion aid Trump claims Ukraine has received from the US. That is more than the total for all and Europe combined has given more than the USA. As I already posted, I know of no equal extortion for aid to another country, one that is in this instance, fighting to protect US interests also. It is not a negotiation, it is an extortion. It does not guarantee long term peace. Trump has been clear about not guarenteeing security. " Why do you insist on arguing at the drop of a hat? Both you and princess are filled with the same continually hate-filled speech. Had you actually read the numerous exchanges between Lead and I, that's a point I've brought up. " Don't act like a petulant child. I am not arguing at the drop of a hot. I am responding to your treacherous desires to abandon Ukraine and allow Russia to seize and retain territory. There are no comparisons> Sovereignty is absolute and not something a crazed maniac of ne country can negotiate away for another country. This includes territorial integrity. by Donna on February 26, 2025 10:27 am It's useless arguing with our two MAGAs, meagain. They love everything the regime is doing. Btw, the info I post is for people who read The SelectSmart.com Post. I've given up on tweedle dee and tweedle dumb. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2025 11:26 am There are no MAGAs here, save tuk22, who comes and goes. And, besides him, no one here who loves everything Mr Tangerine Man's gang is doing. It's the TDS that leads you to those conclusions. And, the disease is spreading in you. by oldedude on February 26, 2025 2:15 pm I think it's funny that donna (someone I can usually discuss things with, is also getting unhinged at being reminded that Lead and I are not supporting, nor participating in domestic terrorism. As far as calling people "traitors" you need to chill your jets. I gave you additional facts why I consider what the left has done as far more treacherous than the right. I'm really sorry if you consider if that's an Inconvenient Truth for you. And how YOU SUPPORT that activity. You unquestionably supported and defended Walz's wife and smelling the tires burn. You LIED FOR HER WHEN WE HAD IT IN VIDEO (her saying it). You supported the burning of several cities, and seattle when they didn't allow EMS folks go in and render aid to dying people. At least I'm not rephrasing what you said and saying what I want to hear like your wife, who is no better than putin or princess. They tell you one thing, knowing it's a LIE. I also try to find places we can agree on. Normally, it's not a stretch, and then there are those times🙄... Wrongagain, trumpster has been ESTREMELY CLEAR about a LONG LASTING PEACE IN THE REGION. Are you off your meds? or is it day drinking? I don't do any drugs that princess sells, but day drinking isn't (generally) off limits once in awhile. If you're buying that crap princess gets from his "butties" watch out. (Just a fair, friendly warning to you regarding where you get your dope) I made a simple remark to you regarding "I don't care what they call it" and you can't handle that. You missed again, the rest of the post (as usual). Like Ephialtes here, you'll pick a single thing that means nothing and start hating on it. Once you get started, it's over. You can't possibly be brought back to any reason at all for a least a year or so. And for the umpteenth time. you actually need to start citing your sources. I mentioned it earlier in a way that in a way that no one should be offended. But maybe you are just offended at everything I say. Which sounds like a personal problem to me. Also, if you're correct, I'll actually acknowledge that, learn, see if I have something different (or not) and we can actually have a conversation. Like princess, if you just come at me, expect the same from me. I'm not So it must be a bad day for all the libs here🙄. And it's just wednesday... by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2025 2:22 pm "And for the umpteenth time. you actually need to start citing your sources." I said that, too, many times. Donna has done that, only some. Those sources are seriously bonkers. by oldedude on February 26, 2025 2:33 pm The two that I've seen are fairly good at it are donna & curt. I do because if I forget, someone will call me on it. And other than meagain, are one's that never cite. Citing isn't generally a "gotcha" or "have you stopped beating your wife" questions. But if you're not citing, you're generally pulling things out of thin air that aren't true, or only partially true. Not citing also tells me you don't have a firm grasp on the subject. Meagain's defense. I've said this before in his defense. When he talks about the military, He is talking about things that have changed over the decades that were truly sacred in legit militaries. You'd never think they'd change them, but things have changed with the number of "terrorists" claiming "sanctuary" from the "Law of Land warfare," Rules of engagement, Geneva Convention, and other things we both use as references. by meagain on February 26, 2025 6:31 pm The Geneva Convention has not changed. The Law of Land Warfare has changed to give greater protection to civilians. That would include things like sanctuary. Russia is in egregious violation of boh. So is Israel. "Yes, the law of land warfare has seen recent changes, particularly with regards to the increased focus on protecting civilians and the development of guidelines for emerging technologies like autonomous weapons systems, most notably through updates to the Department of Defense Law of War Manual and ongoing international discussions about interpreting existing treaties in light of modern conflicts. " by oldedude on February 26, 2025 6:50 pm As I already posted, I know of no equal extortion for aid to another country I didn't know you were sitting in on the negotiations, along with donna. I'll remember that next time. Let me know how that plethora of information is going🤣! It is not reparations. It is payment for the $500 billion aid Trump claims Ukraine has received from the US. That is more than the total for all and Europe combined has given more than the USA. Do you have any actual evidence of extortion? Please use the US law, poutine law is of no interest to me. extortion Extortion refers to imposing an action or obtaining something by force or coercion . The crime of extortion does exclude legitimate negotiation methods. One example could be a party negotiating a deal with a contractor; neither party could make a threat towards one another in exchange for something in the contract . A legitimate negotiation tactic might include the idea of “ puffing ” (which is making something look reasonably more good than it might otherwise be) Under the color of office , a public or private authority may abuse their authority to commit extortion. These are stats that I looked up and gave to you last week. Read them and weep. Costs in BIL/EU going to Ukraine. #🖕 US- 114.15 #2 GE- 17.26 #3 UK- 14.81 #4 JP- 10.52 I'm going to skip to some of the other countries that are now whining about what they're doing. #5 CA- 8.27 Money to NATO. The agreement is 2% of GDP. US- 3.61 GREECE- 2.36 ESTONIA- 2.18 GE- 1.2 CA- 1.02 (Canada hasn't been even with the agreed upon money since the war in Korea, and then it was less than 1% of their GDP. So as far as CA actually having a voice in any spending in NATO or for Ukraine, no one will listen to them until the pony up the till. SO. GE is actually doing well I think, considering where they were three years before Ukraine. Seriously, we need to buy a few hundred of those new Tiger Tanks they have out now. This is a great piece of machinery. Second place are the Brits for their Chieftan. Another great piece of armor worth mentioning. Although the area is pretty "okay" with SAMs, we suck at drone defense (as a whole). The flip side (po and I have spoke about this and agree. The A10 is one of the best anti-armor platforms in the region. Flip side. We're dumping them 😢. I have heard rumors (whatever that's good for), Fairchild wants to come out with a Hog III. law.cornell.edu money.cnn.com statista.com by meagain on February 27, 2025 9:45 am I have seen those stats, and they are nonsense. For example, Canada has just provided another $5 billion plus Light Armoured Vehicles. Don't you know what extortion is? Or coercion? Posting a lengthy explanation that you appear not to understand - Well, it is par for the course for you with your pretext of vast legal knowledge. The US is coercing Ukraine with the threat of ending aid unless it hands over its mineral wealth. The NATO contributions are wrong as well. Many years out of date. Canada. at last reckoning was 1.37% (1.02 was what the previous Conservative government reduced it to.) Also, Canada is purchasing 88 F35s at a cost of $73.9 billion US dollars. Like several other NATO countries. A huge benefit to the USA. It will be interesting to see whether that order is cancelled, as many say it should as part of the retaliation against Trump and his tariffs. I am all for that. We should be buying from Sweden, who have, I read, a better plane. by oldedude on February 27, 2025 9:53 am First. No citation. You're bullshit. you have nothing to support you. At all. Done with #1 issue. 2. I gave you the definitions. Again. you want to argue Cornell University. They know and understand a fuckwad more than you'll ever think of regarding this. So piss off. 3. Whatever you want to call my citation, why the fuck don't you actually look up some that aren't from the 1950? This is what I have been talking about. You give "stats" out of your aging memory. Catch yourself up from the Korean war. Or WWII when you stopped psychologically maturing. I'm done. by meagain on February 27, 2025 11:00 am I don't need to give a citation. And I don't give a Monkey's uncle whether you believe it. Your constant attempt to demand scholarly essays properly footnoted in reply to your fantasies and biased sources is amusing. It is an argument with you, not Cornell. You are too blinkered even to understand what you linked. Trump is not negotiating. He is extorting. Military aid is not something bought and sold. I am absolutely amazed. I did not know that the Korean war was in the future. by oldedude on February 28, 2025 3:12 pm Military aid is not something bought and sold. That's really interesting because it's been bought and sold since the beginning of time. I guess that comes from the difference between reality and fantasy you can't seem to tell apart. by meagain on February 28, 2025 4:00 pm It has not been bought and sold in modern times. Allies are allies and are supported. Attacking Ukraine is threatening many NATO countries, and NATO is bound to defend it. The world order since the founding of the UN is based on that strength. by Donna on February 28, 2025 6:16 pm Maybe those pee vids are real. Go To Top

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