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Trump, like a mob boss: Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Take her out. OK? Do it.

By Curt Anderson
January 24, 2020 1:09 pm
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How would Rudy Giuliani's Ukrainian-born henchmen, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman interpret Trump's instruction to "take her out. OK? Do it."? They were not Marie Yovanovitch's superiors. They couldn't fire her. What did Trump expect them to do?

'Take her out': Recording appears to capture Trump at private dinner saying he wants Ukraine ambassador fired
A recording reviewed by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump's impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump's is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."



That's a nice country you have it would be a shame if something happened to it
Of course this wasn't first time that Trump was caught talking like a mob boss. His infamous "perfect" phone call to the President Zellensky has been likened to the shake down.

"It is shocking at another level that the White House would release these notes [of the phone call transcript summary] and felt that this somehow this would help the president's case or cause, because what those notes reflect is a classic mafia-like shakedown of a foreign leader," Rep Adam Schiff said during a press conference.

"There was only one message that that president of Ukraine got from that call and that was: 'This is what I need, I know what you need.' Like any mafia boss, the president didn't need to say, 'That's a nice country you have it would be a shame if something happened to it,'" he continued.


Krugman: Trump doesn't have the integrity to be a mob boss
Paul Krugman, the New York Times opinion columnist refuted those who have said that Trump acts like a mob boss. See the link below to the Krugman's full commentary. An NYT subscription required.

By Paul Krugman
Many people have compared Donald Trump to a mob boss. But I'm starting to think that the comparison is unfair to mob bosses.

After all, you can't build an empire, even a criminal empire, unless people believe that your word is worth something. They have to believe both that you'll honor your promises and that you'll make good on your threats. The first few times you renege on agreements it may look as if you're being smart and other people are being suckers; but soon they'll take your measure, and realize that you're actually the guy who can be rolled.


The point is that Trump's actual art of the deal, which involves making promises you intend to break whenever it seems convenient, only works if you can keep finding fresh suckers to cheat. If there are people you have to deal with repeatedly, like the leaders of other nations, they eventually figure out both that you can't be trusted and that you needn't be feared: your promises are empty, but so are your threats.


Cited and related links:

  1. abcnews.go.com
  2. thehill.com
  3. messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com
  4. vice.com



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