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New Evangelicals For Harris ad exposes Donald Trump as anti-Christ
By Donna
September 30, 2024 9:31 am
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This new ad uses several examples to show that Donald Trump is the opposite of Jesus Christ.

I don't understand how any true Christian could vote for him.

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Comments on "New Evangelicals For Harris ad exposes Donald Trump as anti-Christ":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 9:37 am

    Got it.

    If you believe in combining the state and religion,... which you do... give me a few reasons for an evangelical to vote for Ms Mckneepads.

  2. by Donna on September 30, 2024 9:51 am



    I don't believe in combining state and religion.

    Why are you, a professed Christian, going to vote for someone who's anti-Christ, and for a third time yet?

  3. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 9:55 am

    "Why are you, a professed Christian, going to vote for someone who's anti-Christ, and for a third time yet?"

    huh

  4. by Donna on September 30, 2024 9:58 am

    Who did Bill Sloat vote for in 2016 and 2020, and who is he going to vote for in 2024?

  5. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 10:26 am

    Donna,

    In 016 and 020, Trump.

    024? Interestingly, we're traveling now. That's how we could meet Mark for lunch today. We'll be home next Wednesday. Our mail-in ballots will be waiting for us and, over lunch today, Evie and I began chatting about how we'll vote.

    We rarely agree politically. We've often voted for different presidential candidates. For both of us, the character and personal integrity of a candidate is important.

    It's easy, then, to understand that neither of us voted for Hillary. By the 020 election, both of my parents had recently died with dementia. Both of us had agreed with Joe Biden on ideology back in the day, but we could see his cognitive decline. Both of us voted for Trump... with regret.

    Now? For myself, I'll write in po before I vote for a either party candidate. Beyond that, I dunno.

  6. by Indy! on September 30, 2024 10:50 am

    Then Joe - even with his "cognitive decline" - ended up being a far better president than Trump, the guy you voted for "with regret" (🙄) and you'll be voting for when you get your ballots.

  7. by Donna on September 30, 2024 12:02 pm

    "Now? For myself, I'll write in po before I vote for a either party candidate. Beyond that, I dunno." - Hts

    Not that you need my opinion, but I'm taking you at your word on that.

  8. by Donna on September 30, 2024 12:07 pm

    I'm sorry that you lost your friend over that, Hts. Cult mentality is truly confounding and has, I'm sure, ruined many friendships.

  9. by Donna on September 30, 2024 12:10 pm

    Oops, wrong thread for that ^ post.

  10. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 12:40 pm

    Ah, you know Mark? Where does the cult thing come in?

  11. by Donna on September 30, 2024 1:21 pm

    He sounds like a MAGA cultist to me, but if you disagree, ok. I don't care either way.

  12. by Donna on September 30, 2024 1:28 pm

    You yourself called him a MAGA.

  13. by oldedude on September 30, 2024 1:38 pm
    donna, just a clarification. These are the same "evangelicals" that you think are true "Christians," correct?

    I do want to wait before I answer that because I don't want things confused.

  14. by Donna on September 30, 2024 1:45 pm

    They aren't supporting the anti-Christ. That's all I can say about them.

  15. by oldedude on September 30, 2024 2:12 pm
    If you believe in combining the state and religion,... which you do... give me a few reasons for an evangelical to vote for Ms Mckneepads.

    Their 5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large.

    To call them "Christian" is an oxymoron. There is no requirement in UU to accept Christ into your life.

    To become a Christian, you need to;
    Believe that you are loved and accepted by God.
    Admit that you are a sinner.
    Acknowledge your sins.
    Commit your life to Christ.
    Live a life of gratitude to God.
    Alternatively, becoming a Christian involves the supernatural work of God to make us "alive" in Christ and "justified" in God's eyes, as well as our own faithful, heartfelt confession that Jesus Christ is our Lord in response to God's grace
    uua.org
    uua.org
    christlikeliving.com
    faithward.org

  16. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 2:14 pm

    "He sounds like a MAGA cultist to me, but if you disagree, ok. I don't care either way."

    You don't know enough to reach that conclusion.

    Are you suggesting that every MAGA is a brainless cult member? That no one can believe what those mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps believe without being mentally or emotionally impaired? Every last one? No exceptions!!!!!?

  17. by Ponderer on September 30, 2024 2:29 pm

    "Are you suggesting that every MAGA is a brainless cult member?" -Hate

    Maybe not every.


    But you'll never go broke betting that the average one certainly is.




    Haven't read it, but it looks good...

  18. by oldedude on September 30, 2024 3:37 pm
    Remember, every to the right of indy is a MAGA cultist. By their definition.

  19. by Donna on September 30, 2024 4:51 pm

    I sense that neither Hts nor od think that any MAGAs are members of a personality cult. Do I have you guys right?

  20. by oldedude on September 30, 2024 8:34 pm
    I believe there are, but many are like me. He's a far second to what I want, and I believe the options are worse than him. Which you would say are part of a blood-drinking cult that worships him, when both of us have said the opposite.

    I also believe that your dogma is enough to enter you into the religion of liberalism, which is why you like the UUA so much. It's not a fault, but a replacement of what Samual Clemens described as "God made man in his own image. So Man returned the favor." In your new Evangelicals, there's as much Hindi as there is Christianity or Buddhist. And it's all seen through a liberal lens. So the Christian lessons of Sodom and Gomorrah (bad things in the Bible) are replaced as with Tantrika, a good thing.

  21. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 3:34 am

    "I sense that neither Hts nor od think that any MAGAs are members of a personality cult. Do I have you guys right?"

    Donna,

    What I believe about this cult accusation is that it's a symptom of you woke's hate and sanctimony.

    The people who are devoted to Trump follow him in exactly the way many progressives followed The ONE back in the day.

    The difference between freethinkers like OD and pb and wokes like po and you [and, note, Curt, even Indy, don't moan about the MAGA cult, only the truly hateful wokes here]...

    ...is that, while we disagreed with Obama's ideology, we didn't accuse people who supported him of the sort of mental shortcoming people like you do of the tens of millions of mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps who simply want to restore the America they envision of an earlier time...

    Proving yet again that you lot are sanctimonious haters.

  22. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 4:57 am
    Different words, another facet of the same thoughts as mine. Well said. And maybe we have the ability to see cultist on both sides. I think your example of (especially obomber) is well said. Many on the left feel that he is/was the new messiah (in very literal terms).

    Working in DC at the time, it was "illegal" to even say a word that wasn't fully supportive of him (yes, even the stuff curt has said about him would have gotten you a "talking to" in HR). What donna and especially po have said about trumpster, you would lose your clearance for. And therefore, your job. And you would have a criminal investigation initiated for threatening the life of the President.

    Of all the presidents in my lifetime, I had a logical reason to hate obomber the most. Because of his ROE, he doubled the number of military killed in Afghanistan. He actively went after and imprisoned military members for taking reasonable steps in war to protect the lives of his own troops. He threatened the lives of my friends, family, and myself with decisions that have never been put on the battlefield. Even though there were threats of the lives of those folks, I've never thought in of him in the same terms of spewing vitriol hatred towards him. I never wished him dead, and condemned people that would want to murder him.

    The worst I ever thought about him was hoping that he lost elections. Why? Because reasonable people in a Republic don't wish their leadership to be murdered.

  23. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 6:22 am

    Back in 015 and 016, I barely posted on SS... and never during the 016 campaign.

    I was planning on voting for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate. My wife convinced me to vote for Trump two days before the election.

    I actually returned to SS after the election simply to check in and say that I voted for Trump and I was EFFINstunned to note the vitriol directed, not toward Trump, but Trump voters.

    It seems that many of the woke are so overloaded with bile that they have extra to spread around.

    As I note, I seek truth in every place I can find it. I subscribe on YouTube to CNN, MSNBC, NewsNation, the Hill, Forbes, Newsmax, Fox News and Fox Business... and numerous podcasts.

    However, it's painful to watch MSNBC because everyone there is pi$$€d off 24/7.

    My Spirit can't take it, but...

    ...honestly, watching MSNBC is like read a po or Donna post.

    So much anger. So much judgment. So much condemnation. So much hate. So much sanctimony.

    Conservatives and libertarians are appalled by Kammy. But, hate her? Certainly not... And. Condemn people who support her?

    EFFINnever!

    That's a po/Donna... metaphorical Rachel thing.

  24. by Donna on October 1, 2024 6:33 am

    "I also believe that your dogma is enough to enter you into the religion of liberalism, which is why you like the UUA so much." - olde dude

    I'm definitely liberal on most issues, but what's this "UUA" that you know I like so much?

  25. by Donna on October 1, 2024 6:37 am

    "Proving yet again that you lot are sanctimonious haters." - Hts

    Well you got me there. I hate fascism.




  26. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 6:38 am
    It's the "New Evangelicals" you've liked so much twice now. The Universalist Unitarians. The one's that claimed trumpster was the anti-Christ.

  27. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 6:40 am

    "Well you got me there. I hate fascism."

    So do we.


    The difference is that you also hate fascists.

  28. by Donna on October 1, 2024 7:03 am

    I do hate fascists.

    I didn't know that Unitarians believed in a future figure that the Bible tefers to as the anti-Christ, od. Are you sure about that? I've only been to a Unitarian church once, I think back in the 90s. That doesn't sound like something they would believe, but I could be wrong.

    Have you watched the video I referred to in my OP, od? Using Biblical references, it explains Donald Trump's anti-Christianism.

  29. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 7:16 am

    Donna,

    A very close friend of ours, who's since passed away, was an ardent UU. We attended his "church" several times. The UUs we've met are every bit as smug and sanctimonious as are po and you. Check em out. You'd fit in comfortably.

  30. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 7:54 am
    They absolutely do "use" Christianity when it suits them, but everything else is also on board. Like I said, there is no requirement (or request) that you accept Christ (ergo, they're NOT "Christian"). They can also use any other religion, thought process, or whatever else that suits them. To match up with what Lead said, "Like the free-roaming roosters of the Caribbean, no one can tell me I don’t belong" (taken from their website). Their view is no one can tell them they're not (whatever). Although they don't adhere to the tenants of the faith they're claiming also. They can "claim" they're "Christian" because they celebrate "Christmas." But they have no requirement to believe in Christ.

    uua.org

  31. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 8:08 am

    In our UU visits, we visited two congregations. They were very tolerant and inclusive... except as far as Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals are concerned.

    Somehow, they couldn't include those scallywags.

  32. by Donna on October 1, 2024 8:38 am

    I've known since the 70s that Unitarians aren't considered Christians by many Christians. Catholicism also isn't considered real Christianity by many Christians - at least back in the day that was a common criticism. I've even heard Christians denounce other mainline Christian churches as being dead spiritually, where the Holy Spirit doesn't dwell.

    Btw, were you able to find anything on the Unitarians' beliefs regarding the anti-Christ, od?

  33. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 8:45 am

    I think it's bullshit. Hate doen't know whatthefuck he's talking about.

  34. by Donna on October 1, 2024 9:08 am

    "So much anger. So much judgment. So much condemnation. So much hate. So much sanctimony." - HateTheSwamp

    LOL!

  35. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 9:33 am

    "I've known since the 70s that Unitarians aren't considered Christians by many Christians. Catholicism also isn't considered real Christianity by many Christians - at least back in the day that was a common criticism. I've even heard Christians denounce other mainline Christian churches as being dead spiritually, where the Holy Spirit doesn't dwell."

    Donna,

    UUs don't consider themselves Christian.

    I think very few non-Catholics reject Catholics as Christians these days.

    As far as mainline Protestant churches. There's a lot of tension WITHIN those groups. In recent decades several of them split, most notably the UMs who are now about a third as large as they were before they turned lib.

  36. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 9:56 am

    >b>"So much anger. So much judgment. So much condemnation. So much hate. So much sanctimony." -Hate


    So much projection.

  37. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 10:40 am
    Btw, were you able to find anything on the Unitarians' beliefs regarding the anti-Christ, od?
    Yes. For the THIRD time. Here's THEIR web site. It talks about everything they are (which is they believe in everything and ascribe to nothing). And I keep quoting THEIR site. This is not a third-party making stuff up. It's not on the "anti-Christ," it's on their beliefs. What you've got is a bunch of Buddhists calling out a Christian about their beliefs. Or visa-versa. At any rate, I agree with Lead. Not calling Catholics "Christian" is a stretch to me. Calling UUA "not Christians," is as apparent as calling Hindis "not Christian."
    uua.org

  38. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 10:56 am

    Preach it, bro!

  39. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 10:58 am

    I went there. I couldn't find anything about their beliefs that addresses the anti-Christ.


  40. by Donna on October 1, 2024 10:59 am

    Mine ^

  41. by Donna on October 1, 2024 11:10 am

    So I can safely say now that "It's the "New Evangelicals" you've liked so much twice now. The Universalist Unitarians. The one's that claimed trumpster was the anti-Christ" is just something you pulled out of your ass.

  42. by Donna on October 1, 2024 11:20 am

    olde dude - The "Evangelicals For Harris" ad doesn't even mention the word "ant-Christ". If you had watched the ad, you would know that. I'm IDing Trump as "anti-Christ", meaning simply that the way he conducts his life and things he says are in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus Christ. I'm not saying that Trump is "The anti-Christ".

  43. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 12:04 pm
    Okay, thanks for the reroute. I was on the wrong track.

    A couple of things.
    First. I think trumpster, like me is human. I have my faults, many of which I still have and continually work on.

    Secondly, this person needs to be in a position for global domination. The US is no longer there. Nor is trumpster, who is hated by global elites. The one's we don't even really know the names of.

    The other side of this are the countries that believe they will harbor and produce the anti-Christ (and want to). Their objective is to ruin the world to build it up again in the anti-Christ's vision. They believe wholeheartedly in using nuclear weapons to do that. They're also presently capable of it also. If you want to look that up, google 12th Imam. Watch out because there's a lot of rabbit holes in looking at the predictions. So there's that.

    Trumpster isn't the second coming, but he's also not the anti-Christ or his minion. My nonsupport of this administration comes from our legal stuff and lack of constitutional adherence. It's not a global thing. It's a domestic thing and "may" assist the global issues one way or the other.

    The whole flip side of this. The anti-Christ is coming or not. We have no control over that. Nor do we have control of the outcome. We can only control ourselves.

  44. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 1:14 pm

    "First. I think trumpster, like me is human. I have my faults, many of which I still have and continually work on." -olde dude

    Exactly! Right, od? We're all human like Trump is!

    I mean... Who among us can honestly say that at one time or another they haven't grabbed a strange woman's pussy... Or defrauded a bank... Or libeled innocent black women... Or stolen from a cancer charity... Or gotten impeached at least once... Or admired a dictator... Or bankrupted a casino... Or paid off a porn star not to talk... Or stripped at least one of women's civil rights away... Or organized and incited a violent insurrection against the government of the United States... Or been convicted of a few felonies here and there?

    Right? Am I right...?





    You think that he's human... like you are, od?

    I happen to think that he's one of the most unhuman humans in the entire history of the species. The only person who is human like Donald Trump is... is Donald Trump.

    It would make me ashamed to be human if he was an example of a run of the mill one.

  45. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 1:38 pm
    This is why you'd be right in line for one of the anti-Christ's minions. And one that I chose less and less to engage with.

  46. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 1:39 pm
    And you've never seen the inhuman things I have seen done to people. So you miht want to check your shit pretty quick.

  47. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 1:43 pm

    I did say unhuman, od.

    Not inhuman.

  48. by oldedude on October 1, 2024 3:47 pm
    Have you murdered someone piece by piece? Or cut someone's head off with a dull blade and a sawing motion that takes minutes to do? And all that time, the family has to watch it? I know you don't really care about human life, but think about if it were you. Not a quick gunshot, but minutes of suffering. And gurgling while they try to catch a breath and finally drown on their own blood.

    I've seen what happens when people like that finish their work.

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