Comments posted organically
SelectSmart.com Homepage
Display Order:

Conservatives throw conniption fit over Julia Roberts ad for Harris, aimed at Trumpers' wives.
Humor by Curt_Anderson     October 31, 2024 3:35 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Curt_Anderson (4 comments) [26 views]


Seven Lies Kamala Harris Packed Into 22-Minute Harrisburg Rally
Crime by HatetheSwamp     October 31, 2024 6:42 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: oldedude (17 comments) [109 views]


Why Donald Trump Supporters Are Garbage.
Opinion by Ponderer     October 30, 2024 7:44 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (24 comments) [182 views]


Six Major Ways the Dims have Weakened the US REPUBLIC
Conspiracy by oldedude     October 31, 2024 12:44 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (5 comments) [38 views]


Trump rides in garbage truck in effort to seize on Biden comment
Humor by HatetheSwamp     October 30, 2024 4:51 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (10 comments) [55 views]


How Elon Musk may have just swung the election...
Media by HatetheSwamp     October 31, 2024 4:36 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: HatetheSwamp (4 comments) [51 views]


Ukrainians Tell of Brutal Russian Repression in Occupied Territories
Horror by Donna     October 31, 2024 8:02 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: meagain (5 comments) [41 views]


Seven lies The Federalist said about Kamala Harris, the seven lies HtS said about them
Fact Check by Curt_Anderson     October 31, 2024 12:48 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (2 comments) [45 views]


The JD Vance Joe Rogan podcast is available
Media by HatetheSwamp     October 31, 2024 10:09 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (3 comments) [34 views]


From the Gays Against Groomers honchos:
Gay & Lesbian by HatetheSwamp     October 30, 2024 12:51 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (10 comments) [65 views]


Sports selectors, pages, etc.
Like her or don't, Lauren comes to the aid of a female boxer
By oldedude
August 2, 2024 12:42 pm
Category: Sports

(0.0 from 0 votes)
Rules of the Post

SelectSmart.com SelectSmart.com SelectSmart.com


Rate this article
5 Stars
4 Stars
3 Stars
2 Stars
1 Star
0 Stars
(5=best, 0=poor)

An Algerian boxer who was deemed to have male chromosomes won a fight in the 66-kilogram women’s division at the Paris Olympics on Thursday.

Imane Khelif defeated Italy’s Angela Carini after Carini abandoned her match. The fight lasted all of 46 seconds before Carini went to her cornermen to call off the fight.

"It would have been easier not to show up, because all of Italy had been asking her not to fight for days," Renzini said. "But Angela was motivated and wanted to do it.

"Of course, when she met her opponent at the draw, she said 'it's not fair.’ But there was no premeditation here today She quit after taking one punch, she told me she didn't feel she could fight."

Khelif fought under a firestorm of controversy regarding a failed gender eligibility test in 2023.


Khelif did not medal in former international games and was seen as a "mediocre" fighter at best. The Olympic committee allowed two boxers to fight after they "identified" as women.

International Boxing Association President Umar Kremlev, admitted that Khelif was disqualified during the 2023 World Championships after failing to meet gender eligibility standards. Neither boxer had blood tests to confirm that status for the Olympics. Kremlev continued "Based on DNA tests, we identified a number of athletes who tried to trick their colleagues into posing as women. According to the results of the tests, it was proved that they have XY chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition.

In Italy, Gold Medal Winners are given 17,000€ (~$18,550). Boebert started a "GiveSendGo" site for her. The goal is $196,000, so that Angela gets all the money Italy would give her. The money will go directly to Carini.


Cited and related links:

  1. foxnews.com
  2. msn.com
  3. givesendgo.com

Comments Start Below


The views and claims expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of SelectSmart.com. Not every statement made here can be assumed to be a fact.
Comments on "Like her or don't, Lauren comes to the aid of a female boxer":

  1. by Donna on August 2, 2024 2:07 pm

    If Khelif were a transwoman, I wouldn't support her competing in the Olympics as a woman, but this particular case isn't that cut and dried as your post presented it.

    From the NY Times:

    ...Mark Adams, the chief spokesman for the I.O.C., criticized news articles and social media posts that he said sought to cast doubt — unfairly, in the view of Olympic officials and even some other competitors — on the gender of Khelif.

    "There has been some confusion that somehow it’s a man fighting a woman,” Mr. Adams said. “This is just not the case scientifically.”

    Mr. Adams stressed at a news conference that Khelif and Lin are not transgender. And he defended the right of both boxers to compete in Paris.

    “The question you have to ask yourself is, are these athletes women?” Mr. Adams added later. “The answer is yes, according to their eligibility, their passport, their history.” [...]

    Last year, though, Khelif and Lin were disqualified during the world championships by a murky process that the I.O.C. this week called “arbitrary” and “unfair.” The decision has never been fully explained by boxing officials.

    Both athletes have competed in women’s boxing for years, including at the Tokyo Olympics, at which neither won a medal. Lin is a former world champion, and Khelif a former silver medalist at that event.

    The widespread criticism of them now, even before Lin had entered the ring Friday, had been “pretty emotionally damaging” to the two boxers, Mr. Adams said.

    The president of the boxing association, Umar Kremlev of Russia, told the Tass news agency after the 2023 world championships that Khelif and Lin had been disqualified during that competition because they possessed X and Y chromosomes, the typical male pattern.

    It is not clear if Mr. Kremlev was referring to what is called a difference of sexual development known as 46XY DSD. Athletes with the condition are legally female or intersex; have the typical male pattern of chromosomes; testes or ambiguous genitalia; testosterone in the male range; and the ability to respond to testosterone in ways typical to men. Track and field, for instance, requires athletes with this condition to lower their testosterone levels to a designated point for two years before being eligible to compete in international competitions.


    According to the minutes of the meeting, Khelif and Lin also failed eligibility requirements at the 2022 world championships in Istanbul, but testing results were not received until the conclusion of the competition, so the athletes were not disqualified.

    They were allowed to compete at the 2023 world championships but then disqualified during the competition. The precise nature of the testing administered in 2022 and 2023 remains unclear.

    According to the boxing association, Khelif initially appealed her disqualification last year to the Court of Arbitration for Sport “but withdrew the appeal during the process, making the I.B.A. decision legally binding.” Lin did not challenge her disqualification.




    nytimes.com


  2. by Indy! on August 2, 2024 4:21 pm

    If you've never seen a boxing match live - up close and personal - you've never seen a boxing match. It's an absolutely brutal "sport" that should be outlawed - that part of it simply does not translate to television. Viewers do not understand what kind of a physical pounding boxers take in every match. Same with kickboxing, UFC and MMA which are even worse. There is no way you can go into a ring and take that kind of abuse without long term physical damage occurring. So to put anything even close to a man into a ring with a woman - should be classified as a crime.


  3. by oldedude on August 2, 2024 7:03 pm
    We agree.


  4. by oldedude on August 2, 2024 8:15 pm
    Other than is my stupid years I did see a couple of boxing matches. And my sister is a regional judge for ABF.


  5. by oldedude on August 3, 2024 11:19 am
    Donna- I have an honest question. What reports have you seen regarding surgical/ chemical protocol on these two? I haven't seen anywhere that they were or were not transitioned. That is going to make the difference for me.

    I do recognize they "consider" themselves women all or most of their lives. Fine. Got it. But that's a far cry from pre-adolescent transition. The other piece is that it's illegal in Algeria, punishable by death to transition. That to me is a hurdle, but not a hard stop. It depends on the family, etc.

    I'm just wondering.
    Oh, you can actually thank Jessica Tarlov (FoxNews). She brought this up on the Five, and I thought she explained it well, but still had the question. I rarely agree with her, but she's really smart and bears listening to for a counter opinion.


Go To Top

Comment on: "Like her or don't, Lauren comes to the aid of a female boxer"


* Anonymous comments are subject to approval before they appear. Cookies Consent Policy & Privacy Statement. All Rights Reserved. SelectSmart® is a registered trademark. | Contact SelectSmart.com | Advertise on SelectSmart.com | This site is for sale!

Find old posts & articles

Articles by category:

SelectSmart.com
Report spam & abuse
SelectSmart.com home page