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Preacher tells Pentagon’s Christmas service: ‘God also hates’
By Curt_Anderson
December 19, 2025 6:10 pm
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The Rev. Franklin Graham on Wednesday told U.S. service members and Pentagon employees during a Christmas service that “God loves” but also that “God also hates".

Graham, whose father Billy Graham served as the faith leader for several presidents, recited the Bible verse John 3:16, which states that “God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he whoever believeth in him shouldn’t perish, but have everlasting life.”

“We know that God loves, but did you know that God also hates?” Graham said. “Do you know that God also is a God of war? And many people don’t want to think about that, or forget that.”


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  1. by Indy! on December 19, 2025 6:43 pm

    Graham then read another passage where God requested Israel’s King Saul to attack Israel’s enemies and “utterly destroy all that they have.” The passage adds that Saul was commanded to “kill them, both men, women, infant, nursing child, oxen, sheep, camel, and donkey.”


    People actually base their lives around this book of fairy tales.


  2. by myce on December 19, 2025 6:49 pm
    Will the Pentagon be taking virgin girls, too?

    Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.


  3. by oldedude on December 19, 2025 8:06 pm
    What about Sodom and gormohha? did he stand for that? Just a refresher on your theological master?...


  4. by oldedude on December 19, 2025 8:09 pm
    sorry cunt- your "knowledge" of the bible is minuscule. please extract your head from your ass.


  5. by myce on December 19, 2025 8:16 pm
    I'm afraid Sodom and Gomorrah is what they do in the ICE facilities. I hope not.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 4:37 am

    As you regulars here know, pb consults The Hill as a dependable source of objective journalism. So, I'm disappointed in this article.

    Ryan Mancini, the author, merely takes Graham's comments out of context and, apparently, cherry picks statements he made in a sermon. But, Mancini never summarizes the point Graham is making. Ole pb has been thoroughly trained on how to construct a sermon. There was a cohesive argument Graham was making by citing those verses and making the statements he made. The article doesn't go there.

    Of pb used those verses, he could... would... use them to preach an anti-war sermon. I doubt that is what Graham was doing, but we don't know.

    All of the verses he quoted really are Bible verses. The article doesn't splain ow Graham used them to support the point he was making. And, it could have been just about anything.

    Christophobia is a real thing in the media. I'm saddened that The Hill seems to be practicing it.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 4:40 am

    Oh, and BTW, Hegseth ain't the Secretary of Defense.


  8. by Ponderer on December 20, 2025 5:48 am

    I'll sure say he ain't. He's not being anything close to one either.



  9. by oldedude on December 20, 2025 7:40 am
    I'd really like to know the context of the statement. Was it that "God hates evil"?


  10. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 7:54 am

    Yeah, OD!


  11. by Navy2711 on December 20, 2025 8:58 am

    God killed almost all of humanity in a flood and routinely sends his "beloved children" to burn for all eternity. He's the worst of the worst, far worse than any human who ever lived. Who cares what he thinks?


  12. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 9:25 am

    The gospel according to 27:11, baha.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on December 20, 2025 10:18 am
    Navy,
    Cut the guy in the sky some slack.

    Haters often mostly hate themselves unconsciously. If you were omniscient and omnipotent you probably would be harshly self-critical in the less than perfect world you created.

    I am not entirely happy with my creation, SelectSmart.com, so I can relate to unsatisfied deities, demigods and other divine beings.


  14. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 10:30 am

    "I am not entirely happy with my creation, SelectSmart.com,..."

    Curt,

    You are waaaaaaaaaay too hard on yourself.


  15. by Curt_Anderson on December 20, 2025 10:33 am
    "Curt, You are waaaaaaaaaay too hard on yourself.' ---HtS

    Yea verily!


  16. by Indy! on December 20, 2025 10:46 am

    Apparently Brown Shorts believes he just has to claim the words were "out of context" and "apparently" cherry picked without providing any source for the entire "sermon" to prove his point.

    So there's that and then there's Odorous cheering him on even though when I post anything he claims I need to source it. I guess Señorita has different standards for MAGAts than he has for us libtards.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 11:03 am

    Okay, Indy. With no context. I could have used those scriptures to preach an anti-war sermon but I doubt that was his point.

    It was a horrible article.


  18. by myce on December 20, 2025 1:28 pm
    HatetheSwamp, why would you conclude that the reporting on violent religious extremism is horrible, and not the violent religious extremism itself?


  19. by meagain on December 20, 2025 2:04 pm
    If God created good, he also created evil. He was not a very nice guy. Just some powerful jerk playing a game to amuse himself.

    "As flies to wanton gods are we. They kill us for their sport." Shakespeare saw it. And said it.


  20. by myce on December 20, 2025 2:22 pm
    Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable. Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death. For this reason each one will dissolve into its earliest origin. But those who are exalted above the world are indissoluble, eternal.

    Gospel of Philip


  21. by Donna on December 20, 2025 2:30 pm

    I don't believe that the figure who is called "God" in the Old Testament, if he existed, is the creator of "the heavens and the earth".



  22. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 2:37 pm

    Donna,

    Huh

    The "figure" called God in the Old Testament is said to have created the heavens and the earth.

    Your statement is nonsensical.


  23. by Donna on December 20, 2025 2:38 pm

    Why?


  24. by HatetheSwamp on December 20, 2025 2:45 pm

    Because, if the God of the Old Testament exists, the God of the Old Testament created the heavens and the earth. If He didn't, he's not the God of the Old Testament.


  25. by Donna on December 20, 2025 3:05 pm

    That's nonsensical.


  26. by Ponderer on December 20, 2025 3:10 pm

    And what if the God of the Old Testament doesn't exist? If that's the case, since we're tossing around ifs, then something else altogether different than the God of the Old Testament is responsible for everything.


  27. by Ponderer on December 20, 2025 3:11 pm

    Seems at least just as likely.


  28. by Indy! on December 20, 2025 3:19 pm

    What if Chicken Little was right and the sky IS falling? 🥴



  29. by Indy! on December 20, 2025 3:20 pm

    Brown Shorts - the article couldn't be that far off if you're still insisting on not giving us the actual text even AFTER you've been called on it. My guess is it's more like DEAD NUTS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.


  30. by myce on December 20, 2025 4:41 pm

    I generally consider myself non-theistic, but here's another perspective on the God of the Old Testament:

    The Gnostic Demiurge
    The demiurge (Greek demiurgos, “craftsman”) is the being who created the world in Gnosticism. The Gnostics identified him with the god of the Old Testament. The Gnostic scriptures portray him as ignorant, malicious, and utterly inferior to the true God who sent Christ to earth to save humankind from the demiurge’s evil world.

    In the Gnostic creation myth, Heaven – which the Gnostics called the “Pleroma,” “Fullness” – was all that existed until a divine entity named Sophia tried to conceive on her own, without the involvement of her heavenly partner or the consent of God. Sophia gave birth to a son that was the product of the rebellious and profane desire that had arisen within her.

    This son of hers was the demiurge. The Gnostic text Reality of the Rulers describes “him” as an androgynous being, an “arrogant beast” that resembled an aborted fetus in both appearance and character. The Secret Book of John adds that he had the body of a snake and the head of a lion, with eyes like lightning bolts.

    When Sophia saw the horrifying, twisted being that had come from her, she was deeply ashamed and afraid. She disowned him and cast him out of Heaven.

    From his lonely position where his madness and conceit could go unchecked, the demiurge gave birth to the archons (“rulers”), beings who were like him and could help him administer the material world. He then created the material world, which, like all creations, was a reflection of the personality of its creator.
    gnosticismexplained.org


  31. by Indy! on December 20, 2025 7:11 pm

    Basically stories with the same amount of credibility as the "gods" of Mount Olympus.


  32. by meagain on December 21, 2025 1:47 pm
    That is really interesting, Myce. It is a story I had never heard.


  33. by HatetheSwamp on December 21, 2025 2:09 pm

    "That's nonsensical." To you. Baha!


  34. by HatetheSwamp on December 21, 2025 2:17 pm

    myce,

    There was wide diversity among Gnostics, including Marcion of Sinope, who was a fan of Jesus... and suggested the easiest Christian Canon.


  35. by myce on December 21, 2025 9:12 pm

    Indy, I compare mythology to theater. It isn't real, but nevertheless it tells a story that is meaningful to the audience.

    Thank you meagain.

    Thank you for the info, HatetheSwamp.

    I am interested in diverse beliefs that were eventually rejected from the canon. Personally, I was bothered that the Christianity I was taught didn't acknowledge a divine feminine, so naturally I'm drawn to that concept. There are variations of the story I posted earlier. I favor the view that Jesus had a companion identified as Mary Magdalene or Sophia. Some Gnostic verses resemble Eastern philosophy in my opinion, some are puzzling like koans, and also strangely misogynistic (in Gospel of Thomas, Jesus would make Mary into a man so she would be accepted??)


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