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Curt, et.al.: Trump's actions on tariffs explained
By HatetheSwamp
March 7, 2025 3:44 am
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Kelly started doing a daily telling of the news a few weeks ago. It's "journalism" in the way network nightly news is. It relates fact but in a way, not framed from a lib perspective, but from the MAGA point of view.
Kelly gives the facts about Trump's view of tariffs and explains why he's done what he's done to this point.
If you really seek understanding, the first 8 1/2 minutes say it concisely, and, reasonably well.
VIDEO
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by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 6:22 am
Did you happen to notice that she never even mentioned the impact to American consumers at all? How the higher prices his tariffs will be responsible for will hit American consumers hard?
And has Fox yet reported on the fact that the current trade deal that Trump decries as treating us so terribly was in fact the trade deal that he made during his last term? A trade deal that at the time he called the greatest trade deal of all time ?
by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2025 6:46 am
po,
Fox, as a whole, is mixed on Trump concerning the economy... if anything, more negative than positive.
There are as many conservatives and libertarians at Fox as there are MAGAs. So, it'd be understandable that Fox ain't jazzed over tariffs and other Trump economic policies.
But, Kelly ain't at Fox. She is more MAGA by the day and she gives as fair a reporting of the tariff dynamics as NBC nightly news would, only as a MAGA.
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 6:51 am
So you're cool then with this government and MAGA Media trying to keep secret how terribly these asinine tariffs are going to hurt Americans? What we don't know now won't hurt them ?
by meagain on March 7, 2025 7:13 am Watch what was going to be nonsense? No thanks!
A good part of the reason for tariffs on Canada was the same as the McKinley tariffs more than 100 years ago and expressed by McKinley as by Trump. The US had failed in in military annexation attempts, McKinley said he would annex Canada through tariffs, he said he would do it with tariffs.
That proved to be disastrous, as will Trump's. If these tariffs do go into force and remain for any extended period, it will take a generation or more for America to recover. It will never recover completely, and America's time as leader of the free world will be over.
by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2025 10:12 am
"So you're cool then with this government and MAGA Media trying to keep secret how terribly these asinine tariffs are going to hurt Americans? What we don't know now won't hurt them?"
You are insane. You are out of touch with reality!
AGAIN!!!!!
Two absolute, objective truths:
1. Trump promised repeatedly during the campaign that he'd impose tariffs. Splain to us what's secret. He was elected to do what he's doing. This is pure, 100% unadulterated "Promises made, promises kept."
2. Ole pb is a libertarian-ish GOP. He, by definition, to the core, opposes tariffs.
by oldedude on March 7, 2025 11:12 amDid you happen to notice that she never even mentioned the impact to American consumers at all? How the higher prices his tariffs will be responsible for will hit American consumers hard?
So what exactly is the direct impact on you? That's a huge question leftists refuse to answer. They talk about "eggs" which is something neither pedojoe or trumpster have anything to do with. What else?
We have mentioned both the impact to US consumers and the countries we put the tariff on. And no one will talk about it. I've mentioned what is going on in the other countries and trying to get them to cooperate with equalizing trade with us. We've also harped on the jobs lost during the pedojoe era that have the ability to come back. There aren't any secrets about what trumpster wanted to do. Mexico didn't blink, they capitulated. canada really wants us to drop the tariffs for free, without them doing anything in return. That's not going to happen.
I've also been one that has been critical of how he's doing things. Which is very much different than the left and lining up to defend the left like little Nazis.
by meagain on March 7, 2025 12:45 pm "I've mentioned what is going on in the other countries and trying to get them to cooperate with equalizing trade with us. We've also harped on the jobs lost during the pedojoe era that have the ability to come back. There aren't any secrets about what trumpster wanted to do. Mexico didn't blink, they capitulated. canada really wants us to drop the tariffs for free, without them doing anything in return. That's not going to happen.
For someone who likes to tell us about his educational attainments, OD, you are quite dense. Trade equalizes itself without the distortion of tariffs and other government interference. Trade for the Unites States is equalised. You need to add a little economic education to your resume. Jobs were not lost during Biden's era. (I assume that is who you mean with the implied vile accusation.) Jobs will be lost by Trump. Millions of them.
Mexico did not capitulate. Canada's return for Trump dropping tariffs will be to drop our reciprocal tariffs. That is going to happen just as it did in 2018. If Trump doesn't, then you had better start worrying about your financial security as a Depression hits you harder than it will hit most advanced countries.
by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2025 1:05 pm”So what exactly is the direct impact on you?” —-OD
Besides major purchases like cars and appliances, everyday grocery items, especially produce, will cost more, if not now, soon.
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 3:34 pm
"Trump promised repeatedly during the campaign that he'd impose tariffs. Splain to us what's secret." -Hate
Throughout the entire campaign and up to his address the other night, he had gone on about his tariffs being paid by the tariffed country. That was never true. That is nonsensical. It was never reality. But he never admitted that. In his address the other night, it was the first time he hadn't said that those countries would be paying the tariffs. He just didn't mention who was going to pay those tariffs. So, he's still keeping it a secret from you and his media minions like Fox and Kelly are helping him do that. All the other media sources have been all over the reality of how tariffs work and what a psychopath Trump is about them for months. Trump has been keeping no secrets from us . Just you idiots. He must still need you for something.
Either Trump moronically actually believes for some unknown reason that Canada and Mexico are going to be paying these tariffs, or he has been keeping the truth secret... the secret he isn't telling you MAGA Hats, but again everyone else has known about for months , that it will in fact be the American consumer who pays his tariffs.
by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2025 3:53 pm
"Throughout the entire campaign and up to his address the other night, he had gone on about his tariffs being paid by the tariffed country. That was never true."
I wasn't aware that you followed the Trump campaign so closely. Shoot us a link or two making your point.
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 4:10 pm
Oh, those other non-MAGA media sites that I mentioned were showing video of him saying it constantly, as they reported on how tariffs actually work.
But here is exactly what you want, Hate. This video proves, in Trump's own words from his own mouth, that he either has no idea how tariffs work, or he's lying about how tariffs work. He fudges away from the reality quite deftly. It's what he excels at. He says that his tariffs "Will cost Americans nothing".
Here...! Let him tell you himself...!!!
View Video
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 4:13 pm
"I wasn't aware that you followed the [...]" -Hate
And you can knock off thinking that your blithering, willful pig-ignorance somehow obfuscates your reticence at acknowledging what I am saying.
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 4:15 pm
When confronted with the reality of who pays the tariffs, he says, "I don't believe it".
by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2025 4:25 pm
po, read my, uh, keystrokes. "I can't guarantee anything."
Holy cr@p, po. TRUMP DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING LIKE YOU CLAIM!
by Ponderer on March 7, 2025 6:32 pm
The willful ignorance is impenetrable with this one.
by HatetheSwamp on March 8, 2025 3:46 am
po,
What you're claiming Trump said is not merely crazy, it's moronic. And, I'm certain that you think it because you choose to believe the "news" reporting of your pet woke wackos and the commentary that comes from sites that are more deranged by TrumpHate than you'd be on your own.
I don't share Trump's beliefs about tariffs but they are more complex than people who choose to lead with hate could hope to grasp.
by Ponderer on March 8, 2025 5:17 am
Absolutely Impenetrable.
by HatetheSwamp on March 8, 2025 5:31 am
po,
Everyone knows that you know nuthin first-hand about Trump's campaign.
by Ponderer on March 8, 2025 9:40 am
Riiiight... Everyone is just as pig-ignorant as you are... No one knows anything more than you do about anything...
by HatetheSwamp on March 8, 2025 10:00 am
I know that you know that you've been bested when you resort to your stoopid rant.
There's lots wrong with Trump's tariff mania, IMO, but you're waaaaay off track.
by oldedude on March 8, 2025 10:47 am For someone who likes to tell us about his educational attainments, wrongagain, you are quite dense.
Jobs were not lost during Biden's era. (I assume that is who you mean with the implied vile accusation.)
As I've cited several times from USDOL, the jobs pedojoe "built" were mostly part time jobs, which are hourly and have few, if any perks. That's why during his era, families were forced to work multiple jobs. Obviously, the BLATENT LIE that he created "more jobs" have been bleated by the liberal sheep for a couple of years. The truth remains. Good jobs were NOT created by pedojoe.
Mexico did not capitulate.
You don't read much, do you?
Mexico bows to Trump, scrambles to meet his demands
Canada's return for Trump dropping tariffs will be to drop our reciprocal tariffs. That is going to happen just as it did in 2018.
But until they do, they're SOL and will keep paying the tariffs.
The first two of your wrong points have been cited ONCE AGAIN since you can't remember the basics. And I can remember from day to day, not just 70 years ago (sure sign of your dementia). politifact.com americanmilitarynews.com
by meagain on March 8, 2025 12:25 pm Usual, OD. Lots os references about nothing but just bald statements when he knows he is posting idiocy.
A caption from some Trumpish source to say that Mexice capitulated.
Canada has tariffs on the USA, OD, and the USA is "sol" until it ends.
As for jobs:
Table 1: Employment Growth Under Biden and Trump - source is Forbes.
Table with 4 columns and 2 rows.
President U.S.-Born Foreign-Born Total
Trump (Jan. 2017 to Jan. 2021) -1,734,157 -409,731 -2,143,888
Biden (Jan. 2021 to June 2024) 7,852,590 5,538,000 13,390,589
by oldedude on March 8, 2025 12:37 pm I know you can't remember this, but we were in the middle of COVID for jobs. You know, when the governors were closing down everything? And people didn't go to work? And you couldn't go to a restaurant? (well except if you were gavin newsome or some other dim politician). So that wasn't even reasonable.
And you're talking about me with "Lots os references about nothing but just bald statements when he knows he is posting idiocy." when you're the guy that takes the drunk crack addict on the street corner's word for it? usatoday.com nytimes.com
by meagain on March 8, 2025 12:59 pm You were not in the middle of a pandemic for four years. You had three years before the pandemic, and the losses continued into the Biden Presidency. They were all recovered under Biden and the 13 million added.
by oldedude on March 8, 2025 1:48 pm Again, PART TIME JOBS.
by meagain on March 8, 2025 2:03 pm RRRRight!
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