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Zelenskyy blinks!
By HatetheSwamp
March 4, 2025 8:37 am
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Zelenskyy says it is ‘time to make things right’ after Oval Office blowup
The Ukrainian president said he and his team is “ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.”
“Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be,” wrote Zelenskyy on social media platform X. “It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.”
In his social media post, the wartime Ukrainian president said he and his team is “ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts,” proposing Ukraine and Russia both release prisoners and agree to a “truce in the sky” and “truce in the sea immediately.”
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Comments on "Zelenskyy blinks!":
by oldedude on March 4, 2025 9:09 am mmmmmmmmmm..... so the dims didn't support him and he had to digress and work with him? Megyn may have been correct all the time... It's that lawyer thing when they know you're a LIAR.
And that's what he gets for believing a liberal. They'll lie to you every time!
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 9:16 am You two are deluded. Zelenskyy is an adult who is forced to treat Trump as a petulant child. There was a Twilight Zone starring Billy Mumy that is a lesson for foreign leaders who have to deal with Trump.
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 9:17 am
Yeah, I trust Kelly's reporting and analysis.
As the most hawkish supporter of Ukraine here, I regret that Zelenskyy is in a weaker position than he would have had to be since he forced himself into having to kowtow to Trump. He humiliated himself.
I think, as Kelly said, Zelenskyy was manipulated by Ds... and, he hoped that European leaders would help him out. He was wrong on both counts. He's made a mess that didn't have to be made.
by Ponderer on March 4, 2025 9:27 am
Curt, I've done a couple memes with Trump's petulant-looking head on Billy Mumy's body from that episode.
My favorite shows the scene in the first panel when the drunken birthday guy is calling on the rest of the guests to take action while he is focused on him, "Somebody sneak up behind him...! Somebody end this... NOW...!"
Followed by a second panel showing that shadow of a Jack-In-The-Box on the wall... with America's silhouette on the spring and the pointy party hat on top of it.
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 9:32 am
"You two are deluded. Zelenskyy is an adult who is forced to treat Trump as a petulant child. There was a Twilight Zone starring Billy Mumy that is a lesson for foreign leaders who have to deal with Trump."
Wow, Curt. A brief paragraph combining both your Zelenskyy Good Germaning AND your TDS.
Still, I don't entirely disagree with you.
The point is that Volodymyr just offered himself as Trump's b!tch.
by meagain on March 4, 2025 9:40 am "The point is that Volodymyr just offered himself as Trump's b!tch."
What is wrong with you? He has repeated in Europe what he has said. Essentially a diplomatic telling of Trump to get stuffed. Europe has given him its full support. Britain has taken the lead in getting the EU to begin acting to replace America. Britain, your best friend and ally, is now alienated. You don't have a friend in the world now except for a few dictatorships.
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 10:08 am Trump is definitely Putin’s bitch. Who else would treat Ukraine and Russia as equally culpable in this invasion by a dictator of an emerging democracy?
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 10:09 am
How's Trump doing that?
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 10:15 am HtS,
What does Russia lose in agreement that Trump is putting forth? Russia gets to keep territory they invaded and occupied. Nothing about reparations for the cities and infrastructures the bombed and destroyed. No security guarantees for Ukraine.
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 10:15 am HtS,
What does Russia lose in agreement that Trump is putting forth? Russia gets to keep territory they invaded and occupied. Nothing about reparations for the cities and infrastructures the bombed and destroyed. No security guarantees for Ukraine.
by Ponderer on March 4, 2025 10:17 am
Trump has actually become little more than Putin's Puppet.
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 10:48 am
Man! I need to spend more time with Curt's Holy Trinity and po's metaphorical Rachel.
Fill me in: What is Trump putting forth?
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 11:25 am
It's not the same without Indy to tell me that MAGAts don't know what is funny:
Trump Orders Zelenskyy Be Sent To Bed Without His Supper To Think About What He’s Done
babylonbee.com
by oldedude on March 4, 2025 11:42 am curt- I was wondering where you got that information. I haven't heard from any side in this negotiation of what was going on with the Russians. What I do know is the entire EU is still buying billions in oil from Russia and are half-heartedly giving aid to Ukraine. I think that really tells you who's Russia's little bitch. You need to look at NATO to really see who's working with him.
The "trumpster is a russian asset" is getting really, really old. I would have thought after the first time you were embarrassed, you would have at least thought of something better. The libtards excuse for facts are horrible.
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 11:43 am “Fill me in: What is Trump putting forth?” —-HtS
Don’t you know? Certainly FOX would be ballyhooing the marvelous details of Trump’s peace plan including guarantees for Ukraine that Putin will stop Russian aggression. That is if anything like that existed. It doesn’t. Putin’s bitch isn’t asking Russia for any concessions other than a pause in hostilities.
by meagain on March 4, 2025 12:29 pm "What I do know is the entire EU is still buying billions in oil from Russia and are half-heartedly giving aid to Ukraine. "
If it were true, you might have a point. I have already shown you how Europe is giving far more than the USA. Add Britain and Canada and the figures are about 60% more.
Of course it buys oil from Russia. Where else would it come from? Like America buys it from Canada. The EU has also cut its natural gas purchases in half since the Ukraine war began. That was not an easy thing to do.
If it were not for the abomination of fracking, America would be scrambling for gas.. Canada cannot provide enough of that for your needs.
by oldedude on March 4, 2025 12:39 pmIf it were true, you might have a point. I have already shown you how Europe is giving far more than the USA. Add Britain and Canada and the figures are about 60% more.
You have no facts to back up your statements. The numbers I referenced are by NATO, the bean counters that keep tabs on the spending. If there was an error, the countries themselves would be all over it.
I would say that NATO has a pretty good handle on their own finances.
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 1:15 pm "The numbers I referenced are by NATO" ---OD,
What numbers have you referenced? Do you have a link to the supposed NATO source?
Incidentally, non-US contributions total over $132 billion, that more than the US's.
(BBC)President Trump has claimed: "We've spent more than $300bn and Europe has spent about $100bn - that's a big difference"
Short answer: Figures suggest Europe has spent more when all aid is included and, as above, we can't find any evidence for the $300bn figure.
Incidentally, charts and listings of contributions to Ukraine include committed money. Trump halted military weapons destined for Ukraine yesterday. statista.com bbc.com
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 1:21 pm
I, very simply, don't accept your numbers.
"Congress appropriated $174.2 billion through the five Ukraine supplemental appropriation acts enacted FY 2022 through FY 2024, of which $163.6 billion was allocated for OAR and the Ukraine response, and $10.6 billion was allocated for other, primarily humanitarian, purposes."
Did your "feckless dementia-ridden" Flatulent Fool not spend the money placed into his hand by Congress?
I don't believe Trump's number and I don't trust anyone else's! ukraineoversight.gov
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 1:45 pm HtS,
"Appropriated" doesn't mean sent. Scroll down a bit on your own link. The graph there includes $39 billion for USAID, which Elon Musk famously stopped. Also Trump halted the military aid out of that that package yesterday.
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 1:51 pm
So. Your "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" didn't send the money?
Ole pb's argument is that no one knows what the truth is.
by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2025 1:57 pm HtS,
Sending weaponry overseas isn’t like dropping a post card into a mailbox. The various production, procurement, packaging and shipping steps take time. Trump halted the shipments before Ukraine got them.
by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2025 2:08 pm
You wanna link that?
by meagain on March 4, 2025 7:12 pm "Ole pb's argument is that no one knows what the truth is."
Ole pb's argument is a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing.
Curt's numbers cannot be argued with, and ther are close to what I gave you, except that my post gave the breakdown. Biden did not spend the money. Appropriated did not mean it was all immediately available. That is why he rushed $10 billion out in his last couple of weeks so that Trump could not stop it. Whether you accept it does not matter.
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