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What's up with the apparent drones over north-central NJ? By Donna December 6, 2024 1:24 am Category: Weird (5.0 from 3 votes) Rules of the Post Write A New Article How To Post Here

I think it started a couple of weeks ago. They're the size of small cars and they have red and green lights like a plane. They go back and forth like they're searching for something, No one knows who's controlling them.

Check out the CBS report.

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by oldedude on December 6, 2024 3:01 am Donna, I thought at first these were no big deals. I figured they were small drones from people trying to harass the military bases. Then I saw how big these things are. That was disconcerting. If we don't know who's doing it, we need to start taking them down. As usual, I'd like them to be pretty much in one piece to see the technology in them. The other thing is that we're not sure how they are being guided. Another concern. The point is that if we can't tell how the communication is being done, I would automatically consider them nefarious. And they're not low enough for hand-held SAMs. Maybe some light AARAMs "if" they have the heat and radar signature. Good thread. by Donna on December 6, 2024 7:39 am Thank you. I agree with everything you said. I didn't think they were a big deal at first either. They've reportedly been seen hovering over nuclear weapons storage areas. by oldedude on December 6, 2024 7:44 am I agree. If you down a few and see who complains. I think (now) this isn't some hobbyist. And looking at how the balloons were handled, the idea that someone feels they have free range over our restricted skies. by Indy! on December 6, 2024 10:40 am If they didn't belong to the gov't, they would have already taken one down. Just listening and watching the video it seems like there might only be one. by oldedude on December 6, 2024 10:48 am Donna- That wouldn't have been in NJ, but they've also been seen in the Lakota states (N Dak, S Dak, MT). That makes perfect sense. Indy- remember the "balloons" that China admitted having across our country and they were allowed to finish their mission before they were shot down? Knowingly allowing spies to operate in our country is an act of treason. by Indy! on December 6, 2024 2:23 pm Weather balloons travel over our country (and China) all the time, OD. This is the problem with getting all your "info" from Fox - they lie. by Indy! on December 6, 2024 2:24 pm Kinda funny that NOW you're worried about treason - but not when your pulled the lever for... by meagain on December 6, 2024 2:34 pm If they are in North Dakota, Trump had better keep them from crossing the border. We don't want hordes of illegal drones crossing into Canada bringing their germs with them. We'll put a tariff on oil until he stops them. by Indy! on December 6, 2024 4:06 pm In a way it's not his fault, meagain because this is how Fox works... 1) They report something dishonestly to make Biden look bad... "CHINA IS SENDING SPY BALLOONS OVER THE USA!!!" 2) OD gets in a lather loading up his weapons, ready to finally go to that war he's always wanted. 3) The ONE balloon gets shot down and authorities report it's just a weather balloon. 4) Fox doesn't bother reporting that part of the story because they were dead wrong as usual. 5) OD stays in a deep (ignorant) lather over it for years afterwards. by oldedude on December 6, 2024 7:15 pm and you have your head in your prison pocket. You must have learned that from your cartel buddies (butties?) the ones that are rapists and murders and cannibals. Don't preach to me about shit. You don't have the integrity a cockroach has. and you're just as filthy. It's your STDs that keep you away from the parties now. Because everyone knows that if daddy and mommy are taking shots, if you're not, to stay away from you. Even your uncles who hate you understand that. You actually need to get off of any Chinese-Run media. That includes your sole source of information, TikTok. And you can't tell me you don't, because your answers are strictly along their lines. by oldedude on December 6, 2024 8:17 pm Donna- We'll both post when we hear something different. I'm open, but the evidence tells us the pedojoe is supporting the CCP and still paying for the diamond. It must have been nice. AND I'm open to other things.. Princess if you could get out of the CCP media, there's a huge amount of information on this. First, wipe your server and computer to get rid of all the CCP crap on your computer they're tracing you on. Then go to a legit source (if you need some, let me know because all you seem to know is CCP sponsored material). You're nothing but a lacky and a useful idiot for the Chinese, it's no wonder why you love😘 THEM so much. And remember Anarchy is what they want, then they systematically murder the Anarchists to have those that will fall in line. You won't do that. You've already signed your death warrant. I've also given you global media that is scared of the Chinese threat. You don't want to read it? Fuck you. and your boyfrined. and your daddy. and your mommy. They'll die too because of you. by oldedude on December 6, 2024 8:18 pm Sorry Donna, I digressed. I hope "curt" doesn't "lose" my posts anymore. by Donna on December 7, 2024 1:02 am I don't trust the Chinese government, or for that matter any government, but I don't think there's anything to your conspiracy theory about Biden. Also, Curt would have no reason to delete your posts unless you used what he considers vulgarities. You probably posted the comments in question on the wrong thread, as some of us including myself do occasionally. by Donna on December 7, 2024 1:19 am Now those mysterious small car sized drones have been spotted over Trump's golf course in Bedminster. Some NJ residents are getting worried about strange drones flying over their homes all night, every night. Interesting news report. View Video by Donna on December 7, 2024 1:28 am Pentagon officials hold classified briefing with mwmbers of Congress about the drone sightings over NJ. They probably also discussed similar sightings over four US/UK Air Force bases in the UK. View Video by oldedude on December 7, 2024 4:55 am Donna- Like I said before, there were zero vulgarities in both of those. Curt admitted to seeing them, He was the last one to see them. Do I think he would? If it showed 8 times that indy lied in only three different threads? Yes. I think he would without a doubt. If nothing else, just to be a good little german. I'm also not sure what the problem is with pedojoe allowing the "weather balloons" to fly over our airspace. The Chinese (a stated enemy of the US) admitted it was them. They flew over our Nuclear Weapons Storage Areas and pedojoe did nothing. They were in a "no fly zone" that we don't allow any other aircraft to fly in unless they are our military. Are you really that naive? Also flying over RAB Lakenheath and Bentwaters IS an issue for so many reasons. by Donna on December 7, 2024 7:00 am Our Air Force shot down one of the Chinese balloons that was in US airspace. They even released footage of that. Apparently our military either hasn't tried to shoot down any of the drones, or it hasn't been able to. Btw, there are reportedly reports coming in from all over the world of drone incursions at military bases. Marco Rubio said that it would be better if they were being controlled by a NHI (non-human intelligence) rather than by an adversarial country like China or Russia because these drones are much more technologically advanced than any drones we have. I doubt that this new development is going away. An interesting mystery to say the least. by Donna on December 7, 2024 7:25 am Great discussion on the drone incursions at the link below. View Video by Indy! on December 7, 2024 10:51 am OD inadvertently admits to being a China stooge... You actually need to get off of any Chinese-Run media. That includes your sole source of information, TikTok. And you can't tell me you don't, because your answers are strictly along their lines. How would he know what TikTok's "lines" are unless he was on TikTok all the time? The man is dumber than a rock and he's trying to pretend he has "multiple" "Master" degrees. Ridiculous. 😂 by oldedude on December 7, 2024 1:00 pm How would he know what TikTok's "lines" are unless he was on TikTok all the time? Because I've read the classified on it. And when it came out, the military wouldn't let their military or civilians on the site. I figured that was a pretty good indicator. I've never been on TikTok, nor will I ever. Again, you in your tiny, meaningless bubble of a "life" and think everyone thinks like you because you're too stupid to figure out there are more people in the world than you. But then if they're brown or black, you'd rather see them die anyway. by Indy! on December 7, 2024 1:18 pm Hilarious. Since when has the military gotten anything right? They create drama to keep the world at war. And for the record - I've never been on a TikTok app or a TikTok website nor have I made any TikTok videos. Just another OD lie that is so easy to spot and report without any "disappearing posts" or "problems with Google AdSense". Amazing that for some reason Odorous can't figure a way out to post ANY of the "MANY" lies he claims I've posted on this board but I can post his without any issues whatsoever. And btw - apparently Google didn't care when I posted the original (alleged) "lie" - how does that happen? They don't bust me for the original lie - but they somehow busted poor old dud? Like most of OD's nonsense - it doesn't make a lick of sense. by Donna on December 8, 2024 7:49 am You two need to take your feud somewhere else. This isn't the first topic thread that you two have hijacjed. It's getting old. by meagain on December 8, 2024 8:18 am Could they be US machines of some sort? A protective shield for der Donald's home and for military bases in the event the civil war that is so much closer now breaks out. If so, expect them to be out in number almost daily as Trump flails at little Golf Balls on every fine day. by oldedude on December 8, 2024 8:38 am I'm going to say that we don't have that technology as I've pointed out. RAF Lakenheath and RAF Woodbridge are on alert. The brits activated SAS to help and to work board it out. My guess is that we'll never know what comes of that, just the results. If they were ours, my guess is that we would have at least told Britian about it. Other than us screwing up that coalition with stupid political mistakes, the Brits have been pretty good friends with us. And pretty forgiving. Kudos to them. the issues are; our radar can't pick them up. We can't pick up their communications. Those are two very scary things. by Indy! on December 8, 2024 12:12 pm by Donna on December 8, 2024 7:49 am You two need to take your feud somewhere else. This isn't the first topic thread that you two have hijacjed. It's getting old. Like your music selections. 😌 by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:15 pm These drones are much more advanced than anything we have. They can out-maneuver any plane. Similar incursions have been reported by India and Australia. by HatetheSwamp on December 8, 2024 12:19 pm Donna, What's you background in drone scholarship? Are you an aficianado? by Indy! on December 8, 2024 12:30 pm peebs... she's merely existing in reality where "facts" are not determined by the likes of Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck like in your world. by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:31 pm I've been following the situation very closely. I recommend going to the link I posted to an interesting discussion I found. At the 22:30 mark, there's footage of a fighter jet trying to intercept one of those drones. by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:32 pm The link on post #18. by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:36 pm Correction: The footage of the fighter jet trying to intercept one of the drones starts around the 22:00 mark. by Indy! on December 8, 2024 12:36 pm Interesting - looks like the thing is blinking all over the place. by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:39 pm Yep. If they're Chinese or Russian (or some other enemy), we're in trouble. by Indy! on December 8, 2024 12:41 pm Maybe the aliens don't trust tRump with his finger on the button another 4 years. He could destroy their nice terraforming project. by Donna on December 8, 2024 12:46 pm They've reportedly been seen hovering over Trump's Bedminster golf course. by HatetheSwamp on December 8, 2024 1:09 pm They've been reported over about half of the counties in New Jersey. by oldedude on December 8, 2024 2:51 pm Again, Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst is right there. So you have a training base and a helicopter wing for fire suppression (army), lots and lots of logistical aircraft (Air Force), and fighters on stay over night missions to fly back (generally to Europe), and Navy so their radar/sonar aircraft can be maintained. And last but not least, the Hindenburg Date: May 6, 1937 Location: Lakehurst Fatalities: 36 The Hindenburg was one of the largest, most well-regarded airships in Germany — until it went down in flames in Lakehurst. Its demise was broadcast in spectacular newsreels across the country View Video by oldedude on December 8, 2024 2:53 pm Donna- I kind of watch for these from you. They're interesting and you keep to facts. It's enjoyable. by Donna on December 8, 2024 3:09 pm Thank you, olde dude. In the discussion I've been referring to, Ross Coulthart, who's an Australian based journalist, mentioned that he's been informed that the US military base in Pine Gap, Australia recently experienced a drone incursion. Idid a little research on the PibeGap facility, and here's some of what I found: "The basics of its operations are as follows. Satellites operated out of Pine Gap are positioned across the Eastern Hemisphere, particularly within range of China, Russia and the Middle East. They intercept a vast range of signals: phone calls, radio waves, heat generated by missile launches and more. Pine Gap decodes the signals and turns them into intelligence, allowing the US and Australia to spy on their current and potential enemies and plan military operations. For more than 50 years, Pine Gap has been an indispensable cog in the Western military machine, “perhaps the most important United States intelligence facility outside that country”, according to expert Richard Tanter. Pine Gap was key to US nuclear war planning during the Cold War. Intelligence from the base was used for the carpet bombing of Cambodia, which killed hundreds of thousands of people during the Vietnam War. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden in 2013 revealed Pine Gap was at the heart of America’s drone strike campaigns in Pakistan, the Middle East and North Africa. The base has also been an important source of information for Israel. In 1973, Pine Gap intelligence helped Israel make key military breakthroughs in its war with a coalition of Arab states. David Rosenberg, a former high-ranking employee of the NSA who worked at Pine Gap for eighteen years, told Declassified Australia in November, “Pine Gap facility is monitoring the Gaza Strip and surrounding areas with all its resources, and gathering intelligence assessed to be useful to Israel”. *** I'm guessing that either China or Russia is operating the drones. If so, what they're doing with these drones is an act of war, but of course the US isn't going to declare war on China or Russia, so they're operating with impunity. by oldedude on December 9, 2024 5:55 am That's why I read your stuff on this. You know where to get the info. by Donna on December 9, 2024 7:21 am Thank you. IMO Ross Coulthart is more on top of this drone mystery (as well as UAP) than anyone the general public has access to. This just in today: Those small car sized drones are now being spotted in the Philadelphia area. Residents are concerned, but aren't being given answers. See link. 6abc.com by Indy! on December 9, 2024 9:48 am The general rule is if they have flashing lights they are terrestrial. by Donna on December 9, 2024 10:38 am Right. None of these drones are displaying any of Lue Elizondo's "five observables" that distinguish human technology from NHI. My best guess is that they're Chinese. by Indy! on December 9, 2024 10:47 am Or a gaggle of MIT grads playing a hoax on the country with some of their new tech. by Donna on December 9, 2024 11:03 am That is a possibility, Indy. I hope it's that. The FBI is on the case now. Good report at the link. Includes interviews with eyewitnesses. View Video by Indy! on December 9, 2024 12:58 pm Something terrestrial. When I heard the sound it was making - has to be earth bound. You also have the same light set-up as required on planes - red light on one side, green on the other, flashing white collision light(s) underneath. Most likely one of our "defense" departments testing night vision drones or something (although I doubt it's a drone since it's so loud - more likely some sort of larger prop-driven tech). Someone with a gun needs to put a hole in one so we can get the whole story (pun intended). by oldedude on December 9, 2024 8:12 pm I'm going to return to 2 things. First. They're signature. No one can see them. Okay. My point is why would you do "tests" that will land you in some CIA "house" on the other end of the world if you had this? Is it worth that much to disappear to do this? Communications. My thought is their UHF is outside of our frequency. It's disconcerting but not impossible. Again. If they're friendly. why not be accessible to decades in a CIA tomb? You would think if they were that smart (Unless you're princess) being held in a cell without doors or windows would be an advantage. by Indy! on December 9, 2024 8:24 pm No one can see them - yet we have video of them? How does that work? 🤔 by Donna on December 10, 2024 11:02 am I highly doubt they're ours, meaning the US. Now they"re being spotted over Staten Island and Brooklyn. View Video by Curt_Anderson on December 10, 2024 11:32 am Here is a drone that's 90 inches wide. Anybody with $90K to spend can buy the Autel Dragonfish online at the site below. It probably would be for commercial applications rather than for hobbyist use. dronenerds.com by Indy! on December 10, 2024 11:52 am I think they're USA thru and thru. Looking more and more like some sort of hoax. by Donna on December 10, 2024 12:05 pm Whatever they are, they've been spotted over 4 air force bases in the UK as well as the entire Philadelphia-New York City corridor for the last 3 weeks, and the most sophisticated military on the planet apparently hasn't been able to determine where they're being launched from or who's controlling them. by Donna on December 10, 2024 12:39 pm These things have been flying over sensitive military installations as well as peoples' homes for 3 weeks, and they're understandably stressing out many of these people who want answers, yet the Biden Admin has thusfar been tight-lipped, which IMO is unacceptable. by Indy! on December 10, 2024 12:54 pm Soooo... "the most sophisticated military on the planet " ...can't track down a couple drones. And people wonder why I say the military is an overbloated bucket of wasted US tax dollars that could easily be spent on far better, more useful and CERTAINLY more successful things to make this country better. Perhaps something that can actually track these objects? by Indy! on December 10, 2024 12:56 pm You double posted so I will too... Imagine this scenario... MIT grads figured out how to propel an object the same way aliens do - by bending space. The gov't knows this is what is happening - but they can't do anything about it without revealing the big picture... that we're not alone. by Curt_Anderson on December 10, 2024 1:41 pm "MIT grads figured out how to propel an object the same way aliens do - by bending space." --Indy! Thus proving Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is usually the best one. One thing I appreciate about extraterrestrial aliens and those who would emulate them, is their habit of including lights on their UAPs/UFOs presumably for safety reasons. by Donna on December 10, 2024 1:59 pm As I said, don't think these are otherworldly. But to address your statement about "lights" on UAP, everyone who's been studying the phenomenon, including myself, will tell you that they're most likely part of the propulsion system. The curious thing about those "lights", and another reason why I put the word lights in quotes, is because they don't cast shadows. by Indy! on December 10, 2024 2:27 pm I don't think they are other wordly either - as already noted. So far as the lights, there are plenty of explanations for them IF we are to (again - or maybe for the first time...) imagine the possibilities, Curt... First off - yes, safety. Collision lights are there for a reason on our aircraft - so other planes (or UAPs) don't run into them. Same idea. Having the proper lights on the drones would go a long way towards plausible deniability if the owners are MIT pranksters and get caught. "Hey, we were just having fun - the drones are perfectly legal!" Aliens from another world? They would have the lights for the obvious reason - camouflage. No different than hunters in the woods wearing clothes that look like nature to fool their prey. by Donna on December 10, 2024 2:45 pm The lights on the... I'll call them the "NJ drones"... include the usual red and green lights that are required on commercial aircraft, with the red light on the port side and the green light on the starboard side, and yes, probably to avoid collisions. by Indy! on December 10, 2024 7:24 pm If you want the full monty... The flashing red lights on top and (sometimes) bottom of the plane are "beacon" or "anti-collision" lights. The white strobe lights on the wingtips are also anti-collision lights. The red and green lights on the wingtips along with the white tail light are navigation (or position) lights that allow others to determine the direction the plane is flying by the position of the colors. ================= I remembered something from high school Aviation class. 😌 by oldedude on December 10, 2024 8:47 pm You double posted so I will too... who double posted? And you have also, along with the rest of us because the site is slow, OR our net speed isn't working quite right at the time. None of us consider this an issue except for you. Not OUR issue. It's YOURS. by Donna on December 11, 2024 7:29 am Interesting discussion about the drones, with NJ State Senator Jon Bramnick and former head of AATIP, Luis Elizondo. Elizondo correctly pointed out that drone swarms have been a problem for the US Navy for years, and as far as we know, none of those incidents have ever been solved. Btw, I read Elizondo's book, "Imminent", which was released in September, which I highly recommend. View Video by Indy! on December 11, 2024 9:46 am Take a break, OD - maybe slip in an anger management class instead of going off the rails everytime you don't understand something being said on the board. I was talking about Donna's double post - not anything you posted. Consider this before flying off the hammer next time... everything is not about YOU. 🙄 by oldedude on December 11, 2024 2:40 pm Still don't see the double post. I was tracking with what you said. Still don't see it. by Indy! on December 11, 2024 2:42 pm 52 & 53 - I didn't mean double post like when we get two of the same posts because our posting finger twitched making it post twice. I meant Donna posted two different items in a row. by oldedude on December 11, 2024 9:32 pm Donna on those posts, I saw different posts, and different points. I guess if someone wants to jut screw with you for a new reason. that 2nd is not saying there is anything with the School where kids schools to win student loads is vastly mistaken. And I'm not usually a "splitter" and in this case I saw two different ideas put through. Usually, what I call a "double post" is when my computer is really slow and I see the exact post done twice, including misspellings and/or punctuation or typing errors with them. I've done those many times, and usually they're overlooked or there's a mea culpa associated with them. I don't consider that anything more than a technology error. not a personal vendetta. by Donna on December 12, 2024 6:57 am I don't think the drones are controlled by MIT grads. They're coming in from the Atlantic Ocean nightly in large groups, sometimes as many as 50. That doesn"t sound like college-aged pranksters to me. I think that the DoD knows where they're coming from. I'm guessing Russia or China, but now I'm leaning more towards Russia. Maybe Putin's using them to show Trump who's boss, like he's been doing since the ekection, for exampke, when he broadcasts scantily clad photos of Melania on Russian TV. by oldedude on December 12, 2024 10:25 am Chinese Citizen Arrested After Allegedly Flying Drone, Taking Photos of Space Force Base Federal investigators arrested Yinpiao Zhou, a 39-year-old Chinese citizen and U.S. resident this week after accusing him of flying a drone and taking pictures of Vandenberg Space Force Base in California, an arrest that comes amid other high-profile drone swarms at U.S. military bases. Yinpiao Zhou was arrested Monday at San Francisco International Airport prior to an outbound flight to China, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California said in a news release. He had most recently returned to the U.S. from China this past February, the office added. Vandy is a Socal base that was pretty big return station from Asia through the 1980s. It is now used to test decommissioned missiles (mostly ICBMs that don't have nukes in them anymore). So this is a pretty big deal. Just an FYSA about spying activity in the US. by oldedude on December 12, 2024 10:28 am Sorry. Source; military.com by Indy! on December 12, 2024 11:35 am I'd like to see a picture of more than one at a time. The squadron of 50 would certainly have some photos out there somewhere. This article calls that into question... Mystery New Jersey drones not from Iranian 'mothership' - Pentagon A spate of mysterious drone sightings in the US are not the work of an Iranian "mothership" lurking off the east coast, the Pentagon says. Dozens of drones have been spotted across New Jersey in recent weeks, including near sensitive military locations in the state and close to President-elect Donald Trump's golf course in the town of Bedminster. A US congressman Jeff Van Drew claimed he had heard from "high sources" that the flying objects were tied to Iran. Speaking to Fox News, the New Jersey Republican said the drones were coming from an Iranian "mothership" in the Atlantic. More at link... I think one of the problems might be editorializing that makes it sound like there are more than are actually up there. Example... Dozens of drones have been spotted across New Jersey in recent weeks... Did they see "dozens" in one place at the same time? Or was it "dozens" of seen one at a time in "dozens" of places? bbc.com by Donna on December 12, 2024 4:03 pm Sometimes it's 15 or 20, other times, more, 50 having been reported one evening. There are lots of eyewitnesses who watch them fly in from the Atlantic Ocean. Even if it were 5, I doybt very much if it's a non-statw actor. Ponderer has an interesting theory. Putin is bitter about Ukraine sending US missiles into Russia, invading their airspace. Maybe the drones are a tit for tat move. by Indy! on December 12, 2024 4:23 pm Donna, I have to believe if there were 20 flying in at one time somebody would have snapped a photo for us. "Reports" are just people claiming they saw something. Exaggeration is par for the course. If you fly ONE drone to 50 cities - you might end up with reports of "50 drones" when it's only one. I have yet to see a photo with more than one in the sky. by oldedude on December 12, 2024 4:24 pm Donna, I agree. It's a state actor. I'm still doubtful if it's Russia. My money's on China or Iran. although Russia shares technology, China and Iran have been very integral in testing and R & D. by Indy! on December 12, 2024 4:28 pm Just did another image search - nothing with multiple drones. Mass hysteria is another issue when things like this happen. Remember the lady who called in an anthrax report when she saw some spilled flour in her kitchen and didn't realize what it was? by oldedude on December 12, 2024 10:06 pm Obviously, you're too stoned to see them. Not a bad thing, just don't respond when you're seeing triple anyway... by Donna on December 13, 2024 8:12 am Nice 23 min video from Lue Elizondo, former head of AATIP, on the drone situation. He offered some possibilities that I hadn't thought of. View Video by Indy! on December 13, 2024 10:59 am OD - If you have a photo with more than one drone in the sky at the same time - let's see it. And just for educational purposes, getting stoned does not cause hallucinations - that is a myth. by Indy! on December 13, 2024 12:41 pm Interesting video, but mostly speculation. One thing he brought up which caught my ear was how different the drones are... "Some of lights, some don't, etc..." That tells me the reports are probably different events being captured and grouped together later in reports - some drones are a mystery, some are probably just kids with drones or something. Naturally reports of "mysterious drones" would get every kid who likes to mess with people sending their drones up too. If they were all coming from one source, common sense says they would all be the same because they would be made by the same (person, country, aliens, whatever). by Indy! on December 13, 2024 12:42 pm *have by Donna on December 13, 2024 1:01 pm I understand your point, Indy. If large groups of as many as 50 drones have been spotted coming in off the Atlantic Ocean every evening, where's a video of that? I've looked everywhere. It seems to me that someone would have posted that on YouTube by now. All I ever see is footage of one drone at a time. Sometimes there'll be other lights in the video, but they could be things besides drones. I found one video that shows at least 3 drones, but you can't tell if they're all the invading drones, or maybe just one invading drone and two drones that were sent up to get a look at the invading drone. No doubt, people all over the world are reporting UAP, but that's typical of ANY day, and goes back DECADES. So when I hear someone say that these drones are being spotted all over the planet now, I'm skeptical that all of those sightings are of the particular kind of drone that are being seen nightly in the mid-Atlantic states. by Donna on December 13, 2024 1:09 pm Here's the video of 3 drones I referred to in my previous post. They look like the same kind to me. This is the only video I've found so far that shows multiple drones that appear to be the same type. youtube.com by oldedude on December 13, 2024 1:49 pm Donna, I was tracking with you and have seen a couple of the videos with multiple light sources. by Indy! on December 13, 2024 1:54 pm Interesting. That video doesn't look like a group of 3 to me (although all 3 look similar). It looks to me like the first drone is a "mystery drone" and the other two look like they might be our drones working in unison trying to find the first one (as the guy in your video said about military bases having drones ready to send up in these situations). The problem with night video is the eye is so easily fooled by so many things - is the size the same, are the lights the same, are they working together or apart, etc... If you're ever in a situation where you see one, two things to remember - keep the camera steady (by placing it on something stationary, etc...) and try to get something in the foreground to determine size. The camera following drones around like we see in most (or all) of these videos make the footage virtually useless for scientific examination. by Donna on December 13, 2024 5:26 pm Ocean County Sheriff: Officer says he saw 50 drones coming off the ocean Interesting report. These drones apparently are incredibly advanced. I agree with something Marco Rubio said (first time) a couple of weeks ago when he said that it would be better if the drones were controlled by a NHI rather than by Russia or China. They reportedly "go black" when a light is directed at them, and they've outmaneuvered helicopters and commercial drones. youtu.be by Indy! on December 13, 2024 5:43 pm News Nation... that's problematic. I think we're reaching the mass hysteria stage - people reporting stuff they just never noticed in the night sky before. by Donna on December 13, 2024 5:49 pm How about an actual commentary? by Donna on December 14, 2024 12:34 pm Some think the drones are a US Gov psyops. Steven Greer is the leading proponent of that theory, and he's been putting out a warning for many years that such a psyops will eventually be put into motion. If I'm correctly interpreting what he's saying, he thinks that within the next 30 days, the US DoD will announce that they're extraterrestrial, and will initiate a false flag war to come to the rescue defeat them. I'm not saying that I agree with Greer, as his theory is pretty far out there (he's been shunned by most of the UAP-ology community) but it is strange that this drone flap is now over 3 weeks old, and the DoD supposedly still doesn't know who's in control of them, which almost no one is buying. by Curt_Anderson on December 14, 2024 12:46 pm I think it’s a combination of the humdrum, hysteria, hoaxers and hijinks. The original drone sightings were of everyday drones either for hobby or commercial activities. Then somebody made a big deal about it on social media where it spread. Then people started noticing every drone and aircraft. Drone hobbyists got into the act and decided it would be fun to add to the mystery. by Indy! on December 14, 2024 1:08 pm That would be my commentary on the video too. These military guys love to jump on something and make it into some kind of "threat" because that is their business (see: virtually everything OD posts). Now they're mixing in other drone videos and claiming they're all working together, etc... Sorry. If there were "50 drones" coming out of the ocean and ANYONE saw it happening - there would be photos and video available. Nobody passes up that kind of opportunity. So until I see some of these accusations proven in some way beyond "expert" opinion - I'm with Curt on this one... we're entering the mass hysteria stage. by Indy! on December 14, 2024 1:09 pm Although I will note this part sounds interesting (if not far-fetched)... If I'm correctly interpreting what he's saying, he thinks that within the next 30 days, the US DoD will announce that they're extraterrestrial, and will initiate a false flag war to come to the rescue defeat them. That's one way for the US Military to notch a MUCH needed win. 😉 by Donna on December 14, 2024 2:28 pm Curt, I can tell that you haven't been following this closely if at all. Our own government officials are saying that they don't know who's controlling them. None of them are blowing it off to hysteria, which they have in the past. I just spoke to a close friend who knows more about Greer, and as it turns out, I got part of it wrong. Greer is saying that wuthin 30 days, whistleblowers are going to testify under oath to Congress that, among other revelations, the drone flap is a psyops, and that they're ours. I'm open to that possibility. But actually, I have no idea who's controlling them, and I'm not even going to venture a guess at this point. There just isn't enough data. by Indy! on December 14, 2024 3:14 pm Add these two things together... Our own government officials are saying that they don't know who's controlling them. + None of them are blowing it off to hysteria, which they have in the past. Tells me they are ours. by Donna on December 15, 2024 4:08 pm Interesting interview on MSNBC with a drone operator who has investigated some of these drone incursions over restricted areas. He said that the unidentified drones don't look like typical commercial drones. For one thing, they have wings like a plane, but they hover. View Video by Curt_Anderson on December 15, 2024 4:43 pm Donna, Did you see the drone in my post #50? It has wide wings. Available online. by Indy! on December 15, 2024 5:16 pm Seems like every video has different drones in it. My brother texted me one that was allegedly drones "going into the ocean"... It did have multiple drones that looked to be in some sort of special formation like maybe a concert light show (drones are the new concert thing outdoors). Looked to me more like they were disappearing behind the horizon than going into the water. There was another separate clip that showed some people in a boat claiming to have seen a "USO". There's a blue light either in the water behind them or reflecting off the water somehow for a short distance. Not really something I would consider "proof" of anything. But the guy MCing the video was acting like everything was all part of some large conspiracy. Like I said - we're in the silly season on this one. by Indy! on December 15, 2024 5:19 pm So far as drones with wings? Very common. Here are some different size US Military UAVs (drones) that all have wings... by Donna on December 15, 2024 8:18 pm The NJ drones reportedly have outmaneuvered police drones. They go black as soon as a light hits them. Unexplained drone swarms aren't a new thing. Last year, Langley AFB in Virginia experienced swarms of drones over a two or three week period. As a precaution, they moved all of their F-22 Raptors to another AFB. To my knowledge, the source of those incursions hasn't been found. The link at the bottom is a short news report about the Langley drones. Right before the NJ drones, four US/UK AFBs experienced incursions by swarms of drones over a two week period. These are bases where nukes have and probably still store nukes. To my knowledge, that case hasn't been solved either. View Video by oldedude on December 15, 2024 8:28 pm Donna- What we've found so far in Gaza is the Chinese and Iranian drones are far more advanced than the US drones. AND what we know is the one's that are drones have communications technology that our "full spectrum" communications can't pick up their signal. NOR can we pick up their radar signature.🙄 Makes you wonder which side some people are on. by Donna on December 16, 2024 1:29 am Thanks for that info, olde dude. The official word from the Biden Admin is that it's not a foreign state actor, and we're being told that it's not a national security threat, even though they've been spotted hovering over Picatinny Arsenal in NJ. Weeks long incursions at sensitive military installations doesn't constitute a threat? No one who's been following these drone swarms believes that our government is being thruthful about this. by oldedude on December 16, 2024 2:08 am We were also told that when the Chinese violated our airspace. So I'm not the least bit hopeful that true. And right now, all attempts to screw the next administration is in full force. Anything at all. I'm shocked he isn't scuttling the nuclear carriers in the Marianas. by Donna on December 16, 2024 6:58 am Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio was shut down for several hours this weekend because of a drone incursion. Details in the CNN report, link below. View Video by Donna on December 16, 2024 7:56 am Great new report from Matt Ford (The Good Trouble Show). In it, he discusses all of the past drone swarms I mentioned in previous posts, plus one more that happened over NE Colorado and SW Nebraska from Dec 2019 into Jan 2020 where as many as 30 drones at a time were reported. The second part of show is an interview with Mayor Melham from NJ, who reports that all 200 mayors of NJ cities had an emergency meeting with the NJ legislature about the drones. He opines that it's quite possible that the drones are ours, and that possibly they've been sent up in response to a national security threat. I think that's a good possibility. Former head of AATIP, Lue Elizondo, also mentioned that as a possibility in a couple of interviews I've seen. View Video by Donna on December 16, 2024 9:50 am I now think that all of these drone swarms that have been going on since about five years ago are probably ours. Both show hosts at the link below from "The Hill" think that's probably what's going on too, and they explain why. View Video by Indy! on December 16, 2024 9:56 am How long did Briahna Joy Gray last on the Hill? by Indy! on December 16, 2024 9:57 am Chuck Schumer is pushing for answers. That means we'll never get one. by Donna on December 16, 2024 10:27 am Chuck has also been pushing for answers about UAP. He's one of our elected officials who was responsible for amending the 2024 NDAA to include disclosure-related requirements for the DoD. In fact, the term "non-human intelligence" appears over twenty times in the 2024 NDAA, and the context is not AI. by Donna on December 16, 2024 10:55 am This isn't related to the drone swarms, but it's interesting. Short video shot on Phoenix on Saturday. What looks like a drone runs into an orange light and the assumed drone looks like it falls vertically and apparently crashes. youtube.com by Indy! on December 16, 2024 1:20 pm Interesting video. My question... how can you NOT keep the camera on the object in question when you think it's a mystery drone or a UAP? Is the dude hitting a bong every minute or so? by meagain on December 16, 2024 1:33 pm I saw a report on an American news station this morning that said many of the reported sightings are just small aircraft. by Donna on December 16, 2024 1:42 pm Of course there are misidentifications, meagain. However, that doesn't change anything I posted. by Donna on December 16, 2024 1:43 pm I agree, Indy - that's so annoying. by Indy! on December 16, 2024 2:35 pm In regards to meagain's post, I'm almost positive the "third" set of lights in that last video - the white double light - is a plane coming right at the camera. by Donna on December 17, 2024 9:36 am Maybe this is what the NJ drones mystery is all about. Amid Mystery Drone Sightings, Radioactive Shipment Goes Missing In New Jersey The medical device that went missing contained a small amount of Germanium-68 (Ge-68), as per the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission. In what comes as an alarming development, a radioactive shipment in the US state of New Jersey shipped from the Nazha Cancer Center in Newfield has gone missing. Medical equipment used for cancer scans was in the consignment that arrived at its destination, 'damaged and empty'. The development comes at a time when the mystery involving swarms of drones flying in the night sky has gripped the entire nation. The timing and nature of the missing radioactive material has led to theories suggesting the drones might be involved in searching for or monitoring the lost shipment. ndtv.com by Donna on December 17, 2024 9:43 am Anyhow, that's what the mayor of Belleville NJ thinks. One problem with that theory, though: "The licensee reported to NJDEP on December 3, 2024, that a Ge-68 pin source that they sent for disposal [was] lost in transit on December 2, 2024." That's a problem because the NJ drone mystery began over a week before Dec 2nd. by Indy! on December 17, 2024 10:00 am "Damaged and empty" is not the same as "lost". by Curt_Anderson on December 17, 2024 10:28 am Pennsylvania Republican Mistakes 'Star Wars' Prop for Downed Drone newsweek.com by Donna on December 17, 2024 10:42 am ""Damaged and empty" is not the same as "lost"." - Indy They don't know where it is. However, as I said, since the timeline doesn't match, that can't be the reason for the drone swarms. by Indy! on December 17, 2024 11:02 am Thanks for that one, Curt. 😂👍 by Donna on December 17, 2024 2:14 pm Whatever their source is, airports and military bases are having to be temporarily shut down due to drone incursions, Langley AFB having gone so far as to move their F-22 Raptors to another AFB in December 2023. It seems to be out of control. by Indy! on December 17, 2024 2:28 pm All theater - just a big show to pass a new law allowing the gov't to spy on us even more without limits. That answer solves every one of the issues... Why we haven't shot any down Why they're allowed to go near restricted areas Why the gov't keeps saying "don't worry" Why they keep putting all different kinds of drone videos online claiming they are all the same drones Etc... etc... Nothing else answers ALL the questions. by Donna on December 19, 2024 9:48 am Former Navy pilot Ryan Graves and former head of AATIP Lue Elizondo are reporting that some of the objects military pilots are seeing aren't returning a heat signature on their Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) sensors, which is odd, because anything that's powered should have a heat signature. by Indy! on December 19, 2024 11:11 am Get ready for the Homelander Drone Security Program. It will cost $30 Trillion a year and all the money goes into Leon Musk's pocket. by Donna on December 23, 2024 11:51 pm None of these drones have transponders as required by the FAA, but they all have aviation lights. If they had transponders, we'd know much more about them. by Donna on December 24, 2024 7:28 am Host Jesse Michels is one of the more articulate researchers on UAP, and the production value of his presentations is superb. He just released a new video entitled UFOs are monitoring nuclear weapons globally, which I'll probably watch later today. View Video by Indy! on December 24, 2024 9:26 am 2hrs? Damn you must have a LOT of free time, Donna. by Donna on December 24, 2024 12:33 pm Yes, I do. I only work 2 days a week. I'm 68, and semi-retired. The study of UAP has been a lifelong endeavor. The first book of any kind I bought was "Flying Saucers: Serious Business", when I was 11. It's my #2 interest, music being my #1. I would have watched Jesse's documentary regardless of how busy I was. Btw, Sheri and I just finished watching it. Jesse really knocked it out of the park. He should be producing feature films. It features a conversation with Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes", which is considered the most comprehensive book ever written on the UFO-nukes connection. He spends some time on Robert Oppenheimer, who famously quoted the Bhagavad Gita as he watched the first hydrogen bomb test: "Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" Will we destroy our world? Or will "they" prevent that from happening? by Indy! on December 26, 2024 10:55 am Good luck with that. It's a giant circular argument that always leads back to the same place... "Stay tuned for next weeks episode... same Bat time - same Bat channel!" Go To Top

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