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Why the Dims are Missing so Many Men
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November 1, 2024 9:54 pm
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This ties into the presidential race perfectly, and what I've been saying for a while.

Liberal (Delicate) men are finally admitting what we knew all along: they are more feminine than conservatives.

Pew Research conducted a fascinating report earlier in October on masculinity in America, surveying over 6,000 adults about whether they identify as more feminine or masculine, which male behaviors should be considered socially acceptable, and how men have fared in modern society compared to women. In an interesting nugget, Pew found that fewer Democratic men, 29%, rate themselves as “highly masculine” compared to Republican men, 53%.

The results aren’t shocking. [Delicate] men lean more feminine, while conservatives lean more masculine. Sometimes, I wonder if liberal women, who I presume are dating [Delicate] men, attack traditional masculinity because they are jealous that their boyfriends or husbands are not as masculine as they want them to be and that they are unable to attract a typically masculine man. Perhaps? Perhaps the lady doth protest too much?

As a general observation about masculinity in America, I think both the left (in nearly 95% of instances) and the right (sometimes, but not always) offer twisted views about what it means to be a man. The left makes traditional masculinity a toxic problem that needs to be corrected with the proper feminist coding. What this means is to deny your biological hardwiring as a man and try to be more feminine and overly sensitive, which leads nowhere good.


Along with this study, Melanie Notkin published an article in NY Post in July 2021 called, Why progressive women want to date men who act like conservativescited{2}

She says there's a lot of gender stuff on dates, but many folks feel like I’m walking on eggshells, To the liberal mind and teaching, if he pays for dinner, it signals he doesn't value his date as an equal so there's a lot of side-stepping in trying to be super casual about it all. If she wants to pay or split it or whatever, that’s fine with the liberal male.”

Melanie wrote; This egalitarian dating style could be the problem that’s holding him back. While some women balk at any hint of traditional male gender behavior, more lament the loss of chivalry. I’m one of them. I find it attractive when a man plans our first few dates and knowingly walks curbside when we’re together. It signals he wants to protect me from passing traffic or errant puddle splashes.

The female desire to feel protected and looked after is built into our DNA, says evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller, a professor at the University of New Mexico and author of several books including “The Mating Mind.”

“It’s a mismatch between what progressive women say they want and what they actually respond to,” Miller told me. “Women’s instinctive mate preferences have evolved for hundreds of thousands of years for guys who are competent, strong, good providers, good protectors and happy with a sexual division of labor,” he added. Women want “decisive men who are also compassionate and thoughtful.”

A 2018 study from Iowa State University backs this up, reporting that progressive women prefer men who demonstrate more traditional dating behaviors. The women found these men to be “more attractive” because they signal a willingness “to invest by being protective, committed, and by providing resources.”


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  1. by oldedude on November 1, 2024 9:55 pm
    Sorry, second citation.
    nypost.com


  2. by Curt_Anderson on November 1, 2024 10:17 pm
    "In an interesting nugget, Pew found that fewer Democratic men, 29%, rate themselves as “highly masculine” compared to Republican men, 53%." --OD

    That difference in masculinity ratings in their self-assessment is largely attributable to Republican self-aggrandizement.



  3. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 3:54 am
    Nice try at making yourself feel better about you. But when the women also know what they need innately as a part of keeping the species alive. The emasculation of men has gotten delicate men what they wanted.

    Beta males in the history of all species would have left them unable to produce because of the lack of access to females from both the alpha males and the females' innate preference for those that can/do provide and protect. Even in the apes and tribal societies, you see that.

    And that doesn't mean males that are cruel to the females or offspring. It's the reverse. It means the ability to provide for and protect the troupe and procreate so the troupe gets stronger.

    Hunter-gathering cultures, the wealth variation is very little. So for the anarchists, socialists, and communists we have here, that should be the preferred mode of production and the most equal. The industrial cultures have the most wealth variation.

    In premodern societies, that 30-40% contribution took the form of gathering, while men supplied the rest of the tribe’s sustenance through hunting. Women were also responsible for the lion’s share of the childrearing, although hunter/gatherer men were relatively involved fathers – more so than any dads up until the modern day:

    In the first cross-cultural study of manhood as an achieved status, anthropologist David D. Gilmore finds that a culturally sanctioned stress on manliness—on toughness and aggressiveness, stoicism and sexuality—is almost universal, deeply ingrained in the consciousness of hunters and fishermen, workers and warriors, poets and peasants who have little else in common.

    These three "P's" are also a mainstay for communication. Carol McCall formed
    The Institute For Global Listening and Communication (IGLC) is an international coach training and communication solutions company, anchored by the belief that listening is the single most important component of any conversation. Regardless of the focus – coaching, leadership, couples, parenting, family relationships – IGLC exists to establish listening as the nucleus of all communication.
    artofmanliness.com
    amazon.com
    listeningprofitsu.com


  4. by HatetheSwamp on November 2, 2024 4:46 am

    OD,

    Point out to me, if you can, one male Kammy voter who ain't a blue-pilled beta male. Just one. That's all I ask.


  5. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 5:55 am
    Actually, There is ONE. Jessica Tarlov's husband. Other than that, no. maybe? no... not a chance in....


  6. by HatetheSwamp on November 2, 2024 6:31 am

    I'm not familiar with him.


  7. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 6:47 am
    He's pretty private (well they are about family). Ex Ranger out of the 75th. She mentions him every now and then. Still makes the bed with hospital folds and tightens the sheets. That sort of thing. But that's about all I know either. He apparently still has the ethos of what I was talking about above, which makes him a good example of how it "could have been" instead of being emasculated and cucked.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on November 2, 2024 7:09 am

    Good for Jessica.

    There are a few progressive women who don't believe that they need to marry a simp... a few.


  9. by Donna on November 2, 2024 8:45 am

    "In premodern societies, that 30-40% contribution took the form of gathering, while men supplied the rest of the tribe’s sustenance through hunting. Women were also responsible for the lion’s share of the childrearing, although hunter/gatherer men were relatively involved fathers – more so than any dads up until the modern day."

    If humanity doesn't send itself into extinction, there will continue to be less of a distinction between male and female roles.



  10. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 9:15 am
    Lead- I think so. And I like listening to her. Lots of great point. I don't much agree, but she's worth listening to.

    donna- I know you don't think there are any other "correct" thoughts other than yours. Again. I don't care. That's why I mock the delicate men so much. They're useless in the world of your revolution. They're the ones that will hide behind you and push women and kids out the door to save themselves. Like obomber said, "lead from the back." He's a fucking coward.

    And you're in the prison of two ideas. Either 1. men are delicate OR 2. men beat their wives and murder their children. There is no gray area for you. You're welcome to that thought. Just don't impose that flaming bullshit on me. (thank you po)


  11. by Donna on November 2, 2024 10:17 am

    I'm not a biological anthropologist, but logic tells me that as humanity evolves, there will be a decreasing need for traditional male and female roles.

    Btw, my dad was a lifelong Republican who you probably would've identified as a delicate man.


  12. by Donna on November 2, 2024 10:21 am

    "Point out to me, if you can, one male Kammy voter who ain't a blue-pilled beta male. Just one. That's all I ask." - HTS

    You've always struck me as "beta male".




  13. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 10:49 am
    "In premodern societies, that 30-40% contribution took the form of gathering, while men supplied the rest of the tribe’s sustenance through hunting. Women were also responsible for the lion’s share of the childrearing, although hunter/gatherer men were relatively involved fathers – more so than any dads up until the modern day."

    That's why I put that into the post. It seem like you only read it to argue with me. NOBODY is saying women don't work, or they're less than, or don't have an important place in the hunter/gatherer culture or any of the other bullshit you put into your listening about it. The FACTS are that alpha males is to Provide, Protect, and Procreate. The brains are wired different. Women can watch a dozen kids, prepare food, talk to the other women, and think about other things all at once.

    Ask a guy to do that? Not happening. That's why males laser-focus on things and have a hard time with multiple shiny things at once. Two things, maaayyyyybe three, but that's really a stretch. Why? For 450,000 years we hunted. We're required not to watch all the shiny shit and squirrels. And to focus on where that spear has to go even though the animal may kill him.

    Again, you're in the prison of two ideas. Men are either betas (whom you approve of), or they are alpha males that beat their wives and children. I gave the example of Jessica Tarlov's husband. He's the man you want, not the cucks you're getting. He sounds like a great guy, I just won't talk politics with him so I don't insult him or Jessica.

    As far as beta males voting for kammy? her cuck. I thought that was extremely evident. And then I could go the males here, but I won't.


  14. by Donna on November 2, 2024 11:03 am

    Thete are plenty of men who can multitask. I guess they deserve to be thrown into a woodchipper, right?

    You generaluze too much.

    Btw, I've never made a derogatory comment about so-called alpha males. I think that everyone should just be who they are. There's room in the pool for everyone.

    My oldest brother, who was an Army Ranger, is also soneone you'd probably call a cuck. He's been a registered independent his entire adult life.


  15. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 12:15 pm
    One of my BA's is in anthropology. And not only did I say it, but it was referenced in the citation I made and the book it came from. So you might want to re-read the post.

    SO. You're extremely literal. Great. I have to remember that when making any joke on this site because no understands word play. I mean, they can't even read Queen's English, so.... they won't get the dry humour.

    Yes, both can be taught. The cited article I posted said that. We're human fucking beings. What I'm talking about is 450,000 years of learning. Eventually, the brain adapts. There's a reason for each one. And one complements the other. Again, you're here to argue. I never said either one was better, if anything, I admire the ability of women to multitask so much better. I am one of those that has trained themselves to multitask. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

    I think in database. I think both you and your wife are linear thinkers. Neither is a bad thing. It's how the individual is wired. You think in terms of set values, I think in terms of relationship.

    My sister in law is so bad, if you mention 'a' and then go to 'c', she MUST start at 'a' again, then to 'b', then to 'c'. That's how she processes. She's one hell of an auditor because of that. 'nough said, I am not.

    You're completely missing the issue with your brother. Just because he's an independent means neither here nor there. Many veterans are. Does he just naturally protect people? typically the Rangers have the capability to compartmentalize their lives. Does he have standards that he follows? Did he volunteer to serve the greater good while sacrificing himself? These are things Alpha males will do. Oh, tell him "welcome home."

    Does he whine incessantly? Is everything somebody else's fault? Is he a victim in his own life? Does he only think of himself? Then he's a Beta.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on November 2, 2024 12:34 pm

    "You've always struck me as "beta male"."

    That's how you strike me, too.


  17. by Indy! on November 2, 2024 1:03 pm

    Comical that anyone is worrying about this. The "hunter/gatherer" era is long gone. We go to the supermarket with cash for meat - not to the forest with a gun. Things change, people change with it. I think the only reason OD harps continually on this issue is because he questions his own manhood. Why else would it be any concern to him at all? I can't think of one person I know who worries about whether they are an alpha or beta male. It makes no difference except to people who are not sure of themselves.


  18. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 2:15 pm
    First, you're the one who keeps talking about everyone's dick size. I'm not worried about it, I think it's coming from your childhood (mommy and daddy issues) and you know you're a beta. That's why you try to fuck with me. I know a lot of betas, and I don't have any friends that are. I don't trust they won't turn on me like you usually do. You want me to stop because it makes you feel bad about yourself (see the last paragraph).

    Had you read any of the posts, the fact is it's still locked into the psyche of all humans. The betas are actually the expendables in a society. They're the ones you use to bait the enemy, and you don't bother to bury them afterward. Alphas Protect. Provide, Procreate. In the citations that you didn't read, is an article about liberal women prefer dating Alpha men instead of cucks. What they're looking for is someone that will stand up for them. On a first date, they just "assume" they're going to pay and ask if they can. If there's a problem with that, he'll call and audible.

    Had you actually read ANY of the posts, you would have found a lot of information.

    From #15 To donna- You're completely missing the issue with your brother. Just because he's an independent means neither here nor there. Many veterans are. typically the Rangers (et.al) have the capability to compartmentalize their lives.

    Does he just naturally protect people?
    Does he have standards that he follows?
    Did he volunteer to serve the greater good while sacrificing himself?
    These are things Alpha males will do. Oh, tell him "welcome home."

    Does he whine incessantly?
    Is everything somebody else's fault?
    Is he a victim in his own life?
    Does he only think of himself?
    Then he's a Beta.


    Better descriptions are in the citations. Which you won't read.


  19. by meagain on November 2, 2024 2:28 pm
    I think the argument presented is very shallow. There is a masculine and feminine side to both sexes and more liberal minded men tend to try to recognise it. They are certainly not softer. One example is our Prime Minister who proudly declares himself as a feminist. In his young days, among many 'jobs' he had was that of a bouncer in a bar.

    More likely is that those who rate themselves so fiercely masculine are a little uncertain of themselves. The "Methinks thou doth protest too much" type.


  20. by Donna on November 2, 2024 2:32 pm

    I've had the same thought, Indy.

    "Does he just naturally protect people? typically the Rangers have the capability to compartmentalize their lives. Does he have standards that he follows? Did he volunteer to serve the greater good while sacrificing himself? These are things Alpha males will do. Oh, tell him "welcome home."

    Does he whine incessantly? Is everything somebody else's fault? Is he a victim in his own life? Does he only think of himself? Then he's a Beta." - olde dude

    Other than occasional conversations I have with him on the phone when we mostly talk baseball,(he lives in Georgia (US)) I really can't answer any of your questions because idk.

    But here's the thing, od. You've called Doug Emhoff and Tim Walz "cucks" when it appears, at least to me, that according to your criteria, they're both alpha males.

    It's clear to me that you called them cucks simply because you don't like Kamala Harris.



  21. by Indy! on November 2, 2024 2:37 pm

    The oversized response tells us - again - that I hit a nerve and was 100% correct. You have all the signs of being a beta, OD - continually trying to impress people with your fake macho war stories and laughable attempts at scaring us...

    "The betas are actually the expendables in a society. They're the ones you use to bait the enemy, and you don't bother to bury them afterward."

    😂

    And what's this? Dating tips?!!

    What they're looking for is someone that will stand up for them. On a first date, they just "assume" they're going to pay and ask if they can. If there's a problem with that, he'll call and audible.

    Funny. Must have took you awhile to figure that one out if you felt the need to bring it on on a board full of senior citizens. 😂


  22. by Indy! on November 2, 2024 2:43 pm

    Donna:
    But here's the thing, od. You've called Doug Emhoff and Tim Walz "cucks" when it appears, at least to me, that according to your criteria, they're both alpha males.

    It's clear to me that you called them cucks simply because you don't like Kamala Harris.


    It's obvious OD is a misogynist who believes women are inferior to men - hence any man who defers to a woman for any reason is a "cuck". Emhoff is married to the candidate and Walz has accepted a complimentary role to the female candidate which makes them "cucks" to Old Dud. I can provide other examples where he has clearly made it known he believes men are superior to women and women should be subservient to men and never vice versa.


  23. by Donna on November 2, 2024 8:01 pm

    "Does he whine incessantly? Is everything somebody else's fault? Is he a victim in his own life? Does he only think of himself? Then he's a Beta." - olde dude

    That description perfectly describes Trump.



  24. by Indy! on November 2, 2024 8:48 pm

    And Trumpers. All they do is complain about how someone else is ruining their lives... immigrants, "elites", Nancy Pelosi, etc... You would think with all those alpha male husbands in the GOP they'd all be living the sweet life with no problems by now. 😌


  25. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 8:50 pm
    And there it is. It's the rest of the world that's at fault. NEVER you! That couldn't be possible! I'm just the victim! Yeah, bullshit.


  26. by oldedude on November 2, 2024 9:28 pm
    It's obvious OD is a misogynist who believes women are inferior to men - hence any man who defers to a woman for any reason is a "cuck".
    Fucking liar. Please post where I said that, princess.

    Emhoff is married to the candidate and Walz has accepted a complimentary role to the female candidate which makes them "cucks" to Old Dud.
    Please post where I said that. Walz is a stupid cuck trying to "look" like an Alpha that can't load his own fucking gun! In front of cameras!

    I can provide other examples where he has clearly made it known he believes men are superior to women and women should be subservient to men and never vice versa.
    I'm waiting for that. Timer's on, princess.

    Like I continually say princess. I have no problem by being outdone by a "girl." YOU'RE the one that laughs about it and mocks me. Ergo, You're the misogynist pig!


    If you and donna would actually read the citations and not make shit up, it would help. Princess, your issue is that you know you're a beta, and I'm calling you out. Remember, Things you do as an Alpha. And interestingly, as every woman will tell you, there are also alpha females. Same traits in leadership by both genders. And read the cites regarding the strong suits of women, and where they're much better then men.

    Do they just naturally protect people? (like standing between the aggressor and a true victim, someone smaller or weaker, even if you're weaker or smaller than the person you're standing up to)?
    Does they have standards they follows that views the good of others more than good for themselves?
    Did he volunteer to serve the greater good while sacrificing himself? (like putting their life on the line)
    These are things Alphas will do.


    Do they whine incessantly?
    Are they followers?
    Do they shift blame off of them to others?
    Are they victims in their own life? (Meaning they're not responsible for themselves)
    Do they only think of their own good and not the good of others?
    Then they're a Beta.


    Allowing a woman to be a partner doesn't make you a cuck, or a beta. It actually is an Alpha trait. Willing to listen to sound reasoning. Please read the cites and whole thread.

    But neither of you would know that because I didn't want to cut and paste the entire fucking articles. So I tried this and learned a lesson.

    I talk about mistrusting betas. This is what happens. They shift blame from what they didn't do so they look good.

    Donna you brought up a point that was self-explanatory had you read. You just want to fight. And then you (and your wife) wonder why I get testy. When you don't read the post/cites and choose to argue points, you're going to lose with me, and I'm just fucking tired of it.

    Y'all are going to "invent" anything you want to and never use fact.

    When you pull your collective heads out of your asses, post. Otherwise, you're wasting my time.
    And princess, you need to answer my responses to what you said.
    See ya in the morning!


  27. by Indy! on November 2, 2024 9:47 pm

    You want another example, Odorous? Read that last post. You obviously think calling me "princess", referring to me as "she, her, etc..." is somehow demeaning? But how? I mean... the only way that is possible is if you think women are inferior to men and I should somehow be ashamed that an old fart on the internet thought she was clever when she misgendered me for the 1000th time.


  28. by oldedude on November 3, 2024 4:06 am
    The point is that you've been name calling continually. Obviously, you have a "problem" with being "misgendered" and being called a coward and "delicate" "man?" and very insecure about it. That tells me something. You have to be accountable for what you do also. I only treat you, how you treat me. You deserve all of that (which isn't much). You can do or name call however you want, and expect nothing in return, blaming me for what you say. Again proving you're a beta. You truly do not have any of the attributes of an alpha. I've been careful to not to mention mommy and daddy too much, but again. What you say also matters.

    There was one post (maybe two) where you were on point, and posted without name calling. You were treated the same. I am willing to discuss in a civil manner. Even to you.


  29. by Indy! on November 3, 2024 9:20 am

    I'm sure that's what you believe - and you're welcome to it. But the fact remains you never went anywhere near the point I made so obviously it's true, queenie... you are a misogynist to go with your racism. Just like the other Trumper on the board.


  30. by Donna on November 3, 2024 2:23 pm

    It's hikarious that olde dude is going to vote for a cuck... unless he's changed his mind.

    Olde dude, are you still planning to vote for a cuck? I ask because "beta" males seem to be unacceptable to you.

    I'm not fighting with you - I just find that hypocritical and odd.







  31. by Indy! on November 3, 2024 3:36 pm

    OD's reality is only what he thinks and can project on others. See his last* post for confirmation.

    *Or any of his other posts.


  32. by oldedude on November 3, 2024 6:45 pm
    Olde dude, are you still planning to vote for a cuck? I ask because "beta" males seem to be unacceptable to you.

    Obviously, you haven't read the cites or my posts yet. So I'm not going to answer STUPID FUCKING QUESTIONS. period.


  33. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 9:16 am

    Trump’s current wife won’t let him touch her so he’s obviously a cuck - and OD is voting for him.


  34. by Donna on November 4, 2024 10:57 am

    olde dude, I've read your comments on this topic thread, but I haven't read your cites.

    If you don't want to disclose publicly why you're voting for the presidential candidate who meets your definition of what you derisively call a "cuck", I'm ok with that.




  35. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 12:11 pm

    Paying for sex?

    Cuck.



  36. by Donna on November 4, 2024 12:19 pm

    😅


  37. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 12:35 pm

    Dude's MARRIED and he's paying for it.

    Cuck.


  38. by Donna on November 4, 2024 1:01 pm

    Which no doubt means that Ivania cut him off a long time ago.



  39. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 1:28 pm

    The one time for the kid on the honeymoon is probably the full count there.

    BTW, getting back to the original "Why the Dims are Missing so Many Men" nonsense - I think there are plenty of men who will not be voting for Trump. Certainly any "alpha" who is offended because Trump is destroying the image of "alpha males" singlehandedly.


  40. by oldedude on November 4, 2024 7:33 pm
    donna- olde dude, I've read your comments on this topic thread, but I haven't read your cites.

    then your questions and interrogatories are bullshit. Get hold of me when you actually have a case.

    princess- getting back to the original "Why the Dims are Missing so Many Men" nonsense - I think there are plenty of men who will not be voting for Trump. Certainly any "alpha" who is offended because Trump is destroying the image of "alpha males" singlehandedly.

    Obviously, as a cuck to mommie and have a complete lack of WTF is going on in either candidates campaign, you wouldn't. Even kammy is worried about it. That should tell you something if you had any sense of any political system. You need to correct your cranial-rectal inversion issue. Get off the cartoon channel for your "news." It's making you look more stupid. Which is getting close to how stupid you really are. Your "feelings" mean absolutely NOTHING to anyone. You need to look at facts first.


  41. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 8:44 pm
    Odorous:

    Obviously, as a cuck to mommie (sic)...

    LOL! He throws the word around on the daily here - but OD can't even define the word "cuck". Do we have to spell out the SMALL words for you too, OD?

    cuckold
    noun cuck·​old ˈkə-kəld
    a man whose wife is unfaithful


    So how could I be a cuckold to my mother, you fucking jackass? 😂
    merriam-webster.com


  42. by oldedude on November 4, 2024 10:35 pm
    Oh, that's right, you've never had a "wife". So a redress of when you're "mommy" was "unfaithful" to you in front of you and she did it to make you feel belittled. Because she did this in front of you and made you look like her slave. I thing that's pretty accurate, right? And you Sooooooooooooo love it!


  43. by oldedude on November 4, 2024 10:40 pm
    And there's a difference between a "cuckhold" (you) and a hotwife. The relationship is totally different. You're not a little slave cum eater in a hotwife situation. If you had a "wife" that would be different. And no one would accept you at more than a wife to her. So go back to your little room where you just turn your arse up to everyone mommy tells you to, little boy.


  44. by Indy! on November 4, 2024 11:45 pm

    Again, you know far too much about this latest perversion to not be involved in it. You exposed your true self just as you’ve done so many times in the past.


  45. by Ponderer on November 5, 2024 5:58 am

    I guess olde dude has clearly determined that Donald Trump is a Beta Male, and by his own standards no less...

    Does he just naturally protect people?
    Only those who he can use and will protect him.

    Does he have standards that he follows?
    Only until someone pays him to have different ones.

    Did he volunteer to serve the greater good while sacrificing himself?
    He absolutely never has. Everything he does is to serve the greater good of him.

    These are things Alpha males will do. Oh, tell him "welcome home."
    Trump abjectly fails to meet your criteria here, od.


    Does he whine incessantly?
    He's Donald Trump. He whines about anything and everything whenever a camera is stuck in his face.

    Is everything somebody else's fault?
    Always. Reflexively. Without hesitation. He is never responsible for a single horrible or criminal thing he ever does. He shifts blame automatically.

    Is he a victim in his own life?
    Oh my yes of course! But it's not his fault that all his actions have had the consequences that they have had.

    Does he only think of himself?
    Again, this is Donald Trump we are talking about. He has never for a second ever thought of anyone else but himself.

    Then he's a Beta.
    Actually, I'd go a bit farther down the Greek alphabet than Beta in Trump's case. But he certainly qualifies as one of olde dude's "Beta Males" for sure.

    .


  46. by Ponderer on November 5, 2024 6:23 am

    The more I think about it in fact, the more that it seems that any man who would vote for Trump has by default designated himself as a Beta Male.

    For Trump is supposed to be the ultimate Alpha Male to them. He is who they serve and take their orders from. They can't be the Alpha if they have already surrendered their male individuality to him. He's their freaking pack leader! I mean where did all this stupid alpha male/beta male crap come from after all?

    And given the way olde dude and Hate abjectly carry water for Trump in here and do whatever he wants them to, they have presented themselves as "Beta Male" as they come!


  47. by HatetheSwamp on November 5, 2024 6:33 am

    Ironic. Donna and po are fascinated by who's a beta male.


  48. by Ponderer on November 5, 2024 7:01 am

    Classic. Hate ignorantly assigns thoughts and emotions to others that they do not have.


  49. by HatetheSwamp on November 5, 2024 7:02 am

    What thoughts and emotions?

    pb's merely reading posts.


  50. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 8:04 am
    donna- I don't consider Emhoff a cuck. I consider him a complete asshole. He's trying to prove himself to his own ego by slapping women "so hard she spun around." If that's the kind of "man" you feel is an Alpha, I feel sorry for you. You must condone men beating women as the norm. Which would match with your wife's view of men. I just think if fucking disgusting. And the act of a fucking COWARD. And it was an ex to boot? WTF cares about an ex an asshole thinks he still "owns" her. And I guess that's okay to have if you're a "liberal."


  51. by Donna on November 5, 2024 8:08 am

    Okay, so why are you voting for Trump when according to your criteria he's a "cuck"?



  52. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 8:18 am
    Nice deflection. your candidate is married to a wife beater that should not be allowed into the whitehouse.


  53. by Indy! on November 5, 2024 8:36 am

    So we should let a traitor into the White House (correct spelling/capitalization for the non-Americans among us) instead?


  54. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 8:42 am
    You have facts in that? Or is it just your "feelings?"

    and your mommy issues are also at the forefront of how you treat others. I guess her giving you all the STDs warped your brain. My guess is that's why she didn't drink, it interfered with all the doxycycline and cipro she was constantly on. Although I doubt if she cared about treating you, so you just got fucked up over the multiple stages of STDs.


  55. by Ponderer on November 5, 2024 8:44 am

    "Nice deflection. your candidate is married to a wife beater that should not be allowed into the [White House]." -olde dude

    Wow! That ridiculously hyperbolic assessment makes him out to be far more detestable than Trump is with all the women who he has raped or sexually abused which you never gave a rat's ass about at all!

    Trump not only rapes and sexually abuses women, but he wants to make abortion illegal nationwide so that they are forced to have his babies.

    Whether they want it or not.


  56. by Indy! on November 5, 2024 8:44 am

    J6, Old Dud.

    And you can stop relating your terrible childhood to us. We get it - now we KNOW why you are who you are. Makes perfect sense after the twisted memories you've passed along here.


  57. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 8:52 am
    My mother wasn't a crack/meth whore. Yours pimped you out to the cartel cannibals to be the "center" "Piece" of the party. At least you were famous when you were very young. When you grew up, that all changed though. That's when you were rejected even by the low-life street dealers you used to get your dime bags off of for just bending over.


  58. by Donna on November 5, 2024 9:02 am

    Doug Emhoff, even if he were a wife beater, isn't running for president.

    It's clear that you're never going to answer my question. I don't care - I just think it's funny.


  59. by Indy! on November 5, 2024 9:06 am

    I'm glad your parents did that to you.


  60. by Ponderer on November 5, 2024 9:24 am

    "My mother wasn't a crack/meth whore. Yours pimped you out to the cartel cannibals to be the "center" "Piece" of the party." -olde dude

    Indy!, isn't it hysterical how funny flaming, cowardly, misogynist asshole pigs are when they just let it all out like that? When they think there's nothing anyone can do about their flaming, cowardly, misogynist asshole pigness?


    Republicans. Always having to irrelevantly bring people's mothers and family into things.


  61. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 1:31 pm
    What's wrong is wrong. If it's wrong for one, then by definition, it's wrong for someone else.

    And then of course there are the affairs that you choose to discount, and two pregnancies (one was miscarried).

    My question back to you is why you're defending Emhoff slapping the crap out of "his bitch" and being a serial impregnator.


  62. by meagain on November 5, 2024 2:14 pm

    "What's wrong is wrong. If it's wrong for one, then by definition, it's wrong for someone else."

    Not necessarily. Morality is a subjective opinion in many instances. Also physical. For instance, gummies 9whatever they are) are wrong for Indy, but right for Po


  63. by oldedude on November 5, 2024 3:11 pm
    That's food. I'd classify beating women as something that is wrong. Much like rape and murder. That's considered a cultural norm. I guess some do feel though that certain people can do that and it's okay.

    It is illegal. And the definitions are strange sometimes. If you're convicted of domestic violence in the US, you can't hold a security clearance, have guns, or be a cop or firefighter.


  64. by Indy! on November 5, 2024 5:38 pm

    I'd classify beating women as something that is wrong.

    Whoa, easy there alpha dawg - that's a HUGE step for you.


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