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Think Donald Trump isn't really serious about being a dictator? Think again
By Ponderer
September 15, 2024 7:45 am
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One of the pleasures of last week’s presidential debate was watching Vice President Kamala Harris deftly filet former President Trump over his affinity for dictators such as Russia’s Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un.

“It is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors,” Harris said. Given a second term, she said, Trump would readily hand Ukraine over to Putin “for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with … a dictator who would eat you for lunch.”

In a rambling response, Trump repeated his dubious claim that Russia would never have invaded Ukraine on his watch and added that Putin has an arsenal of nuclear weapons. “And eventually,” Trump said, “maybe he'll use them.”
He spoke approvingly of Viktor Orban, Hungary’s autocratic leader and a MAGA media darling. I’d like to give you an exact quote, but I could not extract a whole meaningful sentence from Trump’s comments about Orban.

Trump has always flirted with the idea of autocracy. But now that flirtation has become a full-on embrace. He has threatened to weaponize the Justice Department against his political opponents, gut the civil service system to replace professional federal employees with loyalists, invoke the Insurrection Act to put down protests, reinstitute his ban on Muslim immigration and incarcerate millions of immigrants in detention camps.

If you don’t think he’s serious, you're in denial.

Trump has already tried to strong-arm state officials into overturning the results of a free and fair election. When that didn’t work, his supporters mounted a deadly assault on the Capitol aimed at stopping the certification of his loss to Joe Biden. Even before all that, former Secretary of State Madeline Albright called Trump “the first anti-democratic president in modern U.S. history.”

And, like most despots or would-be despots, he is sadistic, dismissing those who have given their lives for their country, mocking disabled people, ripping children away from their families.

To say that democracy experts are worried would be an understatement.

“I consider Trump a very serious threat to American democracy,” said Larry Diamond, a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution and the author of numerous books about democracy. “He has repeatedly demonstrated in word and deed that he does not value democracy, does not respect constitutional norms, does not accept the results of democratic elections if he loses and only values the friendship of strongman autocrats like Orban and Putin rather than our democratic allies.”

I met Diamond in July 2019, when Trump was 2˝ years into his presidency. He had just published “Ill Winds: Saving Democracy From Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency,” a disturbing look at the retreat of democracy and rise of authoritarians around the world. An entire chapter, titled “The Decline of American Democracy,” is devoted to Trump.

“We can survive sleaze and vulgarity in a president,” Diamond wrote. "We can challenge and reverse bad policies. But the threat that Trump poses to America’s democratic institutions and norms is unprecedented.”

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Comments on "Think Donald Trump isn't really serious about being a dictator? Think again":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 15, 2024 7:54 am

    Robin Abcarian is, if it's even possible, more wacked out than you, po.


  2. by Ponderer on September 15, 2024 10:20 am

    If Robin Abcarian stood in front of you and told you that the sun was shining down on you as you could plainly see and feel that it was, you would refuse to believe an obvious fact just because Robin Abcarian told it to you?



  3. by HatetheSwamp on September 15, 2024 10:56 am

    I'd probably believe a comment about the sun.


  4. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 9:18 am
    So what is a "maybesortacouldhappenbecauseIhatehimsobad"🤔 is worse than actually having dictators in office now😱.


  5. by Ponderer on September 16, 2024 9:25 am

    We don't have any dictators in office, od. Where the hell are you getting your news from? TASS???


  6. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 11:24 am
    The FISA court when they chastised the DOJ for them lying to the court and presenting knowingly false information in subpoenas for illegal warrants. The DOJ/FBI would admit to these charges.

    The recognition from DOJ they were illegally surveilling US Citizens because of their religion.

    The admittance of DOJ/HSI illegally placing US Citizens under surveillance to illegally monitor their lives which is probable cause to request FISA wiretap warrants.

    The DOJ/FBI illegally wiretapping phones of political advisories pursuant to illegal search and seizure warrant in violation of the First, Fourth, and Sixth amendment.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on September 16, 2024 11:29 am

    Remember. po has a crush on Big Brother.


  8. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 11:41 am
    Yeah, it's almost as bad as dealing with bobbie. The idea that a politician can do no wrong is so far out of my comprehension.... But Hitler was put on that pedestal also.


  9. by Donna on September 16, 2024 12:03 pm

    So what do you think the Orange Madman had in mind when he said that he'll be a dictator for just his first day in office? His trusted advisor, Nosferatu, is on record saying that on day one, they're going to start with the mass deportations, so with that, I think Trump is planning to give the order to start deporting migrants en masse on day one. But we'll never know, because there isn't going to be a day one of Trump 2.0.


  10. by Indy! on September 16, 2024 12:07 pm

    OD and peebs are too busy salivating over the idea of immigrants being deported (even though it will never happen) they can't think straight.


  11. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 12:13 pm
    I'm just saying that it's happening now and you don't give a shit. And "indy the swamp monster," just mocks it


  12. by Ponderer on September 16, 2024 12:37 pm

    Well, since all of your irrelevant, non sequitur blather had absolutely nothing at all to do with contradicting my assertion or answering the question I asked, I shall consider my assertion to be quite accurate:

    We don't have any dictators in office, od. We never have. This is America. It's not a dictatorship.



    Unless Trump happens to pull off a miracle of course.


  13. by HatetheSwamp on September 16, 2024 12:49 pm

    "So what do you think the Orange Madman had in mind when he said that he'll be a dictator for just his first day in office?"

    He will issue Executive Orders... like the "dithering and diminished" "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" did back in the Glory Daze.


  14. by Indy! on September 16, 2024 1:05 pm

    WHAT? OD HASN'T SAID A SINGLE NEGATIVE THING ABOUT DICTATORS? He must love Putin. Definitely confirmed using the OD Methodology of Slandering Innocent People.


  15. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 1:49 pm
    I've actually said plenty of negative things about dictators. But I'm sure most of them you've never heard of. They didn't teach those things in "art"😁 "school"🤣. You just never bother to read. You must be really ass hurt over something, but it's not worth me asking, because I don't really care.


  16. by Indy! on September 16, 2024 1:52 pm

    And he still won't say anything negative about Putin! DEFINITELY A PUTIN LOVER!!!


  17. by Ponderer on September 16, 2024 2:08 pm

    "He will issue Executive Orders... like the "dithering and diminished" "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" did back in the Glory Daze." -Hate

    And Biden, and every other president, was legally allowed to do that. There was no dictatorishness required. Presidents can issue executive orders. I don't recall you ever having any problem with any of Trump's executive orders. Even if the courts did. Simply issuing executive orders are not the actions of a dictator in our system of government.

    Declaring that he will in fact be a dictator as president, who has threatened to suspend the constitution on flaming bullshit charges, certainly would be.


  18. by HatetheSwamp on September 16, 2024 2:39 pm

    "Simply issuing executive orders are not the actions of a dictator in our system of government."

    Bingo! Now we're getting somewhere baha.

    The woke take Trump literally but not seriously. MAGAs take him seriously but not literally. Keehee hoo ha, ahhhhhhhhhh!



  19. by Indy! on September 16, 2024 2:40 pm

    Now we have to explain the difference between literal and figurative dictators to them.


  20. by oldedude on September 16, 2024 6:56 pm
    po re:#17

    The obomber and pedojoe administration instructed the federal law enforcement arm of the government to violate the rights of citizens in the opposing party.

    THEIR DOJ lied to our courts systems in order to illegally obtain evidence from persons in the opposing party.

    The DOJ knowingly and with malice, used false and illegal "evidence" to prosecute and deny rights to citizens in the opposing party.

    The federal government used illegal acts and falsehoods against US citizens in order to deny them rights and freedom.

    The federal government used illegal means to illegally deny opposing party members constitutional rights and freedom.

    State and Federal have been guilty of the Selective Enforcement and Prosecution. In the United States, this defense is based upon the 14th Amendment, which stipulates, "nor shall any state deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


  21. by Indy! on September 16, 2024 8:52 pm

    And your guys in CONgress tried to prosecute and decided even they weren't willing to waste precious moments of their short lives on a non-starter like that.

    Let me know if you need the definition of "non-starter", OD. 😉👍


  22. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 5:21 am
    Let me know if you need the definition of "illegal", princess. 🤣🖕

    I think this is why you actually LOVE THE SWAMP. You use it to be able to lie about things the swamp doesn't want to admit to (even though it happened). And you try to get other extremely low information voters to believe the same thing as you. You talk shit, but you always go back to being the good little german. When you actually want to learn about what you're talking about, let me know. Your knowledge of the laws you actually live under (instead of the rock you pretend to) are two way different things.


  23. by Ponderer on September 17, 2024 7:52 am

    "The obomber and pedojoe administration instructed the federal law enforcement arm of the government to violate the rights of citizens in the opposing party.

    THEIR DOJ lied to our courts systems in order to [blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.....]"
    -olde dude

    Yeah, absolutely none of that qualifies those administrations as "fascist", olde dude. Sorry. It just doesn't. It's not even fascist behavior. Even if they were actually breaking laws, that doesn't instantly translate into "fascism".

    Valiant effort though.


    Tell me, od... Was it fascism when the W administration lied us into going to war, losing tens of thousands of American troops lives in it, millions of Iraqi and Afghan lives, and flushed trillions of tax dollars down the drain on it...? Hmmm...?

    Yeah. No it wasn't. Was it.



    fascist [ fash-ist ]
    noun
    1. a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
    2. (often initial capital letter) a member of a fascist movement or party.
    3. a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
    adjective
    Also fa·scis·tic [] of or like fascism or fascists.

    fascism [ fash-iz-uhm ]
    noun
    1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
    2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
    3. (initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.


    I gotta say, that certainly sounds a lot more like another recent Republican administration and what the guy running now has in mind for another one. A shitload of a lot more.


  24. by Ponderer on September 17, 2024 7:54 am

    Why I neglected to include a link on that last one...
    dictionary.com


  25. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 10:53 am
    Tell me, od... Was it fascism when the W administration lied us into going to war, losing tens of thousands of American troops lives in it, millions of Iraqi and Afghan lives, and flushed trillions of tax dollars down the drain on it...? Hmmm...?

    So tell me what he lied about... We already covered that the US and all the coalition partners have agreed there were WMDs in country and could be used at the time of the invasion. I know that you very conveniently "forget" that little nugget of information every time you talk about this. There are three people in my family that are living proof of what the VA wanted to suppress for a couple of decades. And thanks to you, and princess especially, they could and did squelch that information. So fuck you very much for that. Both of you.


  26. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 10:57 am

    Did something upset the welfare queen?


  27. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 10:58 am

    Good lord - is queenie defending the Iraq War? If that aint proof he'll take any war for any reason - I don't know what is.


  28. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 10:59 am

    *she'll


  29. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 12:03 pm
    Actually, it is more about you LYING ABOUT IT, more than anything else. Again, falling hook, line and sinker for the swamp. With po there's no surprise. You? Well I guess no surprise either.


  30. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 2:07 pm

    Source that lie, queenie.


  31. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 2:10 pm
    Look it up. I have several times. That was part of the PACT act that just got passed to expedite claims since so many are dying already.


  32. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 3:54 pm

    Translation: I got nothing, Indy. I'm basically another version of JD "Donuts" Vance lying about dog and cats being on the Springfield dinner menu.


  33. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 3:55 pm
    You've refused to tell lead and me where you cited things. I'm just returning the "favor." And expect these in the future from me.


  34. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 3:57 pm
    So you've been a dikead to, well most everyone on the site. I'm doing nothing you haven't done to me.🖕😎


  35. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 4:00 pm

    You could have sourced it by now instead of whining like a little girl and double posting. 🙄


  36. by oldedude on September 17, 2024 6:28 pm
    You're the one with big crocodile tears😢, whining about how "wronged" you were when YOUR playbook was used on you🤣. Get used to it😀.


  37. by Indy! on September 17, 2024 8:11 pm

    You can add that one to your continually growing list of things that need a source, Corporal Crybaby.


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