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In September 2022, when Walz was running for re-election as governor, independent Minnesota news outlet Alpha News quoted retired Command Sgt. Maj. Doug Julin as saying, Walz "abandoned his soldiers" in 2005.

Julin, who retired from the Minnesota National Guard in 2012 with 35 years of service, described "a backdoor deal" that allowed Walz to skip his unit's deployment to Iraq.

"As soon as the shots were fired in Iraq, he turned and ran the other way and hung his hat up and quit," said Tom Behrends, a retired command sergeant major who replaced Gov. Tim Walz on a deployment to Iraq.

“He let the soldiers down. How can you be entrusted to be the governor of Minnesota when if something is not to your liking, you quit or you serve yourself and not others?”

"As soon as the shots were fired in Iraq, he turned and ran the other way and hung his hat up and quit."

pb's enjoying the Tampon Tim Veep candidacy so far.

Occasionally, I listen to the Philly morning talk radio program on WPHT and I did today. It's three people. One is a woman, Dawn Stensland. She has more common sense as a commentator than anyone I encounter. Her take on Tampon Tim is that he's not been vetted completely. She's rarely wrong. Keep your eyes open.

We'll see but it won't surprise me.

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by Indy! on August 7, 2024 1:04 pm Like we were going to send a governor to fight a war of choice*? *War of choice: Any war created for the express sole purpose of selling weapons. by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 1:08 pm It was looooooooong before he was a governor. I don't know how many votes difference this will change but I will predict that Tampon Tim will be a bigger drain on Kammy's support that Vance is on Trump’s. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 1:12 pm You know the "Tampon Tim" thing is not working anywhere outside of MAGAtville, right? Just makes you look like an idiot here. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 1:13 pm Forgot... I predict Trump implodes before we even get to the election. He had one chance to be re-elected - face grandpa's slack jaw and look better than him. Now he's lost. by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 1:25 pm "Tampon Tim" as a campaign theme is doing pretty well as far as I can tell. TT stands for many things suburban soccer moms don't like... and the Big Brother foisting of trans-ism on kids at elementary schools scares the moms. by Curt_Anderson on August 7, 2024 1:28 pm Tim Walz’s years of military service: 1981–2005. Wtf, that isn’t long enough? by Indy! on August 7, 2024 1:36 pm That's because you're in the Fox bubble. Out here? In REALITY? Nobody has heard it. by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 1:37 pm Curt, The brouhaha is over the reality that as soon as he was informed that his unit would be sent to Iraq, Tampon Tim tucked tail and ran... and sorta lied about it. It really angers military people. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 2:02 pm If memory serves, the number OD used to have in his sign-off was .045% of Americans served in the military. You know what that means? 99.055% of Americans never served (and 99.9% of them were already going to vote for the King of Krispy Kreme anyway. by oldedude on August 7, 2024 3:02 pm Tim Walz’s years of military service: 1981–2005. Wtf, that isn’t long enough? Not the point if his contract wasn't up. He would still have to serve out the contract regardless. I trust the Sergeant Major's MUCH MORE than tampon tim. And if two of them are saying it, that is something beyond reproach. I'm hoping "resigned" which is different than "retiring." Resigned means he gets ZERO out of the military (well, NGB....). No VA benefits, no retirement, no perks that would have happened. Is it "stolen Valor?" Not "really," it just tells me he's a coward and a POS. I didn't need any more strikes to not vote for him, but he just drew a few more. And if the others weren't enough, this is worth more than enough alone. I find it funny the left critiques politicians on the right if they were in the "reserves" during VietNam. And of course, now they have to fall in line like good little germans. I will say this. It also depends "how" they did while serving. Flipper Kerry, being an officer was expected to be an example. At least his crews waited until he was out of Viet Nam to frag him. I guess his "example" was pathetic. I will say the dems did have some great serving veterans. Obviously Jack Kennedy being the lead. There's also Duckworth. I don't agree with her on anything, and she served well. There are 25 dim members of congress that served. Again, I may not vote for any of them, or agree with them on any political issue, but I haven't heard anything bad about any of them. And then there is Tulsi. There are also members whose spouses serve, so also kudos to them. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 3:16 pm The entire (alleged) event rests basically on one man's (probably a Trumper) opinion. Follow the story overall and it seems more likely he was already retiring so he could go into politics. BUT... either way? Again - this is a story for Fox. The man served in the National Guard. You don't join the Guard unless you DON'T want to see action. That would be doubly true when it comes to the worst foreign policy "mistake" (read: weapons sale) in history. Only idiots and people with no choice wanted to go to Iraq because EVERYONE - EVERYONE (see: Bold Use 101) - knew Iraq was a lie.* *Well... except for Odorous. Every military intervention is a good thing for Odie. by Ponderer on August 7, 2024 3:27 pm Ah the return of a golden classic... Swiftboating! The MAGA Republican party is really scraping the bottom of the barrel already... and there's still three long months to go yet. Trump is an entire loaf of wet toast. olde dude, as our resident military expert, could list for us all the ranks leading up to Seargent Major, the highest rank of NCO I believe...? And do you think it's possible for someone to get to that point in a military career by being a coward who abandons troops or refuses to serve their country? And Bill, you wanna talk about "stolen valor"????? Vance is a swine of a human being. A swine who also happened to have served valiantly as a United States "Marine". Was JD Vance a Marine? A look at the military record of Trump's VP pick Born to a working-class family in Middletown, Ohio, Vance enlisted in the military directly out of high school. He joined the Marines in 2003 and served as a combat correspondent – or military journalist – until 2007, according to military news site Task & Purpose. In his 2016 memoir Hillbilly Elegy, as excerpted by Military.com, Vance described the press as “the holy grail of the Marine Corps public affairs: the biggest audience and the highest stakes.” For the last nine months of his service, Vance was the media relations officer for the Marine Corps Air Station in Cherry Point, North Carolina, one of the largest military bases on the East Coast. Vance’s time in Iraq Vance was deployed to Iraq for six months in late 2005. Based on his memoir, he would “attach to different units to get a sense of their daily routine,” escort civilian press, and write stories about individual marines [still a military journalist]. On a mission into Iraqi territory, Vance said he experienced a pivotal moment [cue ominous minor-chord music] when he and his unit interacted with local school children. As they handed out school supplies to the children, Vance gave a small eraser to a boy. After the boy received the eraser, Vance said, “His face briefly lit up with joy before he ran away to his family, holding his two-cent prize aloft in triumph. I have never seen such excitement on a child’s face.” Vance described how growing up with limited means and spending time overseas made him who he is today. “That resentment didn’t vanish in an instant,” he said, “but as I stood and surveyed the mass of children of a war-torn nation… I began to appreciate how lucky I was: born in the greatest country on earth, every modern convenience at my fingertips … At that moment, I resolved to be the type of man who would smile when someone gave him an eraser. I haven’t quite made it there, but without that day in Iraq, I wouldn’t be trying.” Here you go, JD. No need to smile back. I can only imagine how hard such a thing must be for you. usatoday.com by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 3:34 pm You're wrong Indy. Members of his unit are driving this story. When I posted the link, I looked for evidence that the soldiers in his unit and who know the story are genuinely pi$$€d. They are. I'm sure some of them will appear in the campaign ads. Will this matter to woke white progressive Swampsters like po and Donna? Of course not. Will it make me a Trump voter? Nuhuh. But, moderate and independent common sense voters? This cloud over his character is the sort of thing that matters to them. I watched The Five tonight. Jesse and Greg were ebullient, just having the best possible time laughing at Tampon Tim... TAMPONS IN 4TH GRADE BOYS BIFFIES, keehee hoo ha... and Jessica, in the Dem chair, tried her d@ngdest to defend TT and Kammy but she didn't seem to believe herself. JD Vance has turned out to be a drain on Trump support. But, it's becoming obvious that Trump won the Veep choice part of the campaign... but a lot! ...so long as Trump and Vance stick to issues. by Ponderer on August 7, 2024 3:34 pm A Landslide I'm tellin ya... by Ponderer on August 7, 2024 3:41 pm "Will this matter to woke white progressive Swampsters like po and Donna? Of course not." -Hate Well no duh "of course not". We don't tend to be swayed by baseless, flaming bullshit when forming our opinions. Just because you think it's right for you to be doesn't mean that it's right for everyone, Bill. But I really do love this whole Swiftboating tactic you guys are currently flailing with. You guys run with that! Knock yourselves out! by oldedude on August 7, 2024 3:44 pm With a coward for VP? I know that rings with liberals, who have no honor, or integrity, but the rest of the nation? I think not. Or maybe after 20 years he got sick of picking up cigarette butts. Right TAFKAP? and just didn't have enough integrity in his soul to actually do the job he trained for over 20 years. That must be why you supporting him. ZERO integrity! just like you!🤣 by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 4:36 pm This story is being driven by soldiers in his unit. Here's one of them describing the stole valor and calling him a deserter and a traitor. It's this sort of thing, coming from people who know him, whose voices and faces will appear on campaign ads that will matter in the weeks to come. View Video by oldedude on August 7, 2024 4:53 pm I took a quick look at his service. Right now, I'm leaning towards a lack of understanding of the accusers. Walz served in Italy in support of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT). He is authorized the GWOT Service Medal. This may be the issue for some people. It shouldn't be. Any award mentioning the Iraq Campaign, Afghanistan Campaign, the Southwest Asia Service Medal is NOT authorized. I have NOT seen he is accused of any of these. As far as "stolen Valor?" so far I cannot see it. That doesn't change my feelings regarding his decision when he was notified of the deployment to the middle east. My thought is the accusers should stick to the known facts. And use the right verbiage. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 5:33 pm The guy in your video with Megyn Kokehead is the "one guy" peebs. So far as this...? by HatetheSwamp on August 7, 2024 3:34 pm You're wrong Indy. Members of his unit are driving this story. When I posted the link, I looked for evidence that the soldiers in his unit and who know the story are genuinely pi$$€d. They are. I'm sure some of them will appear in the campaign ads. As always, if you actually found any other soldiers - you would have posted links to their complaints about Kamala's fantastic veep pick. And let's be real for a moment, pb - we KNOW Trump is probably paying at least two former Guardmates of Tim's to pretend like this story has legs. PS: As always, note PROPER use of bold text above. by Indy! on August 7, 2024 5:51 pm LOL! Even OD can see thru the lies. You were right, PB - this IS a big thing - and like everything he's tried since Biden stepped down... it's backfiring on him. You got OD questioning his Trump vote now. by oldedude on August 7, 2024 6:02 pm You didn't read all of it. And being a coward is ten times worse than "stolen valor." by Curt_Anderson on August 7, 2024 6:21 pm Joseph Eustice, a 32-year veteran of the national guard who led the same battalion as Mr. Walz and served under him, said in an interview on Wednesday that the governor was a dependable soldier and that the attacks by his fellow comrades were unfounded. “He was as good a soldier as you’d find, and to have two former sergeant majors say that he wasn’t, it’s just not true,” Mr. Eustice said, adding that he disagreed with Mr. Walz’s politics and most likely would not vote for him in November even though they were friends. Mr. Eustice recalled that Mr. Walz’s decision to run for Congress came months before the battalion received any official notice of deployment, though he said there had been rumors that it might be deployed. The two men were exercising in early 2005, when Mr. Walz, who was then a command sergeant major, turned to Mr. Eustice, who was then a first sergeant, and said: “I got to ask you something. I’m thinking about running for Congress,” Mr. Eustice recalled. “I said, ‘What the hell’s wrong?’” he added. “I mean, why would you want to do such a thing?” by oldedude on August 7, 2024 7:46 pm Did he fulfill his commitment that he willingly signed. There are plenty of members of congress that are in the Reserves/National Guard. Some have deployed. Honestly however you protect him, I trust the E9+'s. They actually know what goes on with all the paperwork, etc. Snuffy usually doesn't. In the Guard, you can have an E5 with 32 years at that point. I got my E5 my second time testing, at 6 years on active duty. I protected him as much as I can. And I thought that was pretty fair. So unless you give me the NGB22, I'm going with the fact he quit when he heard rumblings, which your story supports. If he was finished with his commitment, he would have said so. That's the first thing anyone who didn't quit would say. That means a lot. The only alternative is having both legs taken off and you're a retired E(whatever) with (could be) 2-3 years. My first question is; "Who paid Eustice off to say that publicly." Of course, I know why you believe Eustice. That's pretty evident. And as usual, there's a whole lot you don't know about the guard. Again, I would never vote for the "man" even if I didn't know this or it didn't come out. The "siege of Minneapolis" to me was as bad as the Siege of Atlanta, or Richmond." They let it burn. tampontim said "it was exciting." Many of the businesses that were damaged were small, family-run operations, and Barbara wi — whose office was destroyed in the riots — said owners hoped they would one day be made whole after order was restored. Crime skyrocketed – with murders jumping 75% in 2020 compared to the prior year, and then rising even more 2021. Killings have dropped, but are still 50% above 2019 levels. All this is fair game. And undeniable. Sorry sheep, there are photos. And our own po was giddy with the 13th precinct burned. He had an excess in taxes. When asked if there would be a tax refund, he said he was going to give stuff away instead. His wife kept the windows open in order to smell the riots, calling this a "touchstone moment." And they didn't do crap for the small business owners. Not that I would expect that, because the dims are the worst for small business. Between chickenshitting the small business for regulations, and making it impossible to make a buck. I talked about this once. Not that I really like Geraldo Rivera, but it took him 6 months and a couple of $K for a "legal" Lemonade stand in NYC. They made him get a Fire extinguisher. And he had to have an office for the health inspector that MUST have 24/7 access. There are my "issues" with him. And that's just the top of the iceberg. For princess. Note that NONE of my cites are from Fox. msn.com nbcnews.com dailywire.com msn.com by Indy! on August 7, 2024 9:00 pm I don't see anything wrong with his actions and doesn't seem like it's that big a deal anyway (or no deal) to you Trumpers too. So we agree. by Ponderer on August 7, 2024 9:40 pm He served 24 years and retired. If they had needed him, he wouldn't have been allowed to retire. PLEASE keep running with this malarkey...! by oldedude on August 7, 2024 11:26 pm Like I've said (now for the THIRD time) I haven't see any evidence of that. HE has never said that. It's a key for anyone that's in the military. They would say that. Honestly, If you have a cite of that, I'm more than willing to see it and agree with you. Also for the THIRD time. This is something I really don't care to argue about. There are so many other reason I will actively be campaigning against the ticket. I think he is the absolute worst pick (but one I expected with kammy) I would have if I were her. It doubles down on kammy being the most liberal senator. And I've said this before. Many on this site are going to cheer both kammy and tamponted's liberalism. I expect that. No issue, no argument. The reasons I (and half the country) won't vote for him are the reasons you (and half the country) will. And things that I've articulated three times. So. As usual, This is a redundant post. You and princess whine and bitch about how many times I say things, and everything I just told you, I've said two, three, now four times. So quit bitching about things that I've said before, that it's your fault you won't read (several times to allow you to skim most of the time). by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 5:34 am The king of Philly afternoon talk is running an X poll on whether Tampon Timmy will survive on the Dem ticket by the time of the convention. FYI, pb voted yes. x.com by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 5:39 am Even EFFIN-CNN busts Tampon Timmy for his lies about his military service!!!!! View Video by oldedude on August 8, 2024 5:48 am Again, these are things veterans don't forget. I am a VietNam ERA veteran. If someone asks, that's how I have to phrase it. Otherwise, I'm immorally stealing their valor. So I do that and thank them for their dedication to get the VA off their butts and actually do something for veterans. All the PACT stuff is because of them. And a LOT of those folks died waiting for doctors. Some horribly with Agent Orange they knew would kill you. But they (the government) refused to help for 20-35 years. by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 7:42 am Yeah. He has lots of baggage. The Covid Big Brother stuff is egregious and that is not getting much chatter... yet. For this election, the lies he's told about his military service are the sort of thing that leaks into the consciousness of Donna's "low information," my moderate and independent common sense, voters. And, laugh as progressives might, the tampons in fourth grade BOYS bathrooms thing will bother suburban soccer moms. by Ponderer on August 8, 2024 9:22 am Geez, Bill. You really nailed him on this earth shattering breaking news. I really think that you should focus heavily on this and really run with it. Oh you guys are gonna get miles outta this. All Democraticdom is quaking in their boots. by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 9:29 am po, You didn't answer my question. by Ponderer on August 8, 2024 9:33 am I went over this entire thread. You didn't use a single question mark anywhere in it. ...What question? by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 9:40 am From t'other day. You do know that you are not in the political mainstream, right? by Ponderer on August 8, 2024 9:59 am Oh do tell! Please tell me which non-politically mainstream policies I hold to that place me out of the mainstream.... (ohthisisgonnabegood.......) by oldedude on August 8, 2024 10:02 am You like to torch police buildings? by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 10:08 am Wow, po. You do think you center the universe! by Ponderer on August 8, 2024 10:13 am Bill, please tell me which non-politically mainstream policies I hold to that place me out of the mainstream.... (wow. squirming already...) by Ponderer on August 8, 2024 10:18 am "You like to torch police buildings?" -olde dude That was in no way a "policy" of mine, as I have labored to get through your thick, bone-filled skull for years now. I had an opinion on the burning of one specific police station one time. An opinion on a one-time occurrence is not a "policy". Though I understand and excuse the desperate need your flatulent ego requires behind your idiotic attempts to label it as such. But give it another go. I think Hate could use your help. by Indy! on August 8, 2024 11:27 am OD explains why Indy never would - and never did - volunteer for the MIC's brainwashing program... All the PACT stuff is because of them. And a LOT of those folks died waiting for doctors. Some horribly with Agent Orange they knew would kill you. But they (the government) refused to help for 20-35 years. I do find it interesting that apparently OD knows this, yet he still signed up himself and now he's mad that Tim Walz was smart enough to avoid unnecessary service in a war where there are similar health issues not unlike Agent Orange... depleted uranium for example. Vietnam was not a one time thing - it was the master blueprint for all future wars. by oldedude on August 8, 2024 3:55 pm I know you don't have any, because your a coward, but as a leader (which you'll never be in your pitiful, meaningless life) you don't do that to your people. Way to prove you'll never be anything but a "delicate" "man." and never worth a shit to anyone or any thing. by HatetheSwamp on August 8, 2024 4:15 pm Indy, You are now pure Blue MAGA! by oldedude on August 8, 2024 4:49 pm TAFKAP- First, none of this was known in 1990-1991. So yet again, you jump to conclusions that you know something you know absolutely nothing about. So you're lying yet again. Even by 2007, there were some hints that something may be wrong. It was mostly because of assholes cutting the military budget that nothing was done. So thank you asshole. by Indy! on August 8, 2024 4:54 pm The use of Agent Orange was suspended by the Department of Defense in 1970, OD. Why do you suppose they did that? Because they knew in 1990 someone else would figure out it was causing health problems? 😂 So - again - Indy, a "delicate man" according to the board delicate man - knows more about the military than the alleged board military "expert". OD - may I suggest you google the military stuff first too? You know - like you did with the crack recipe in the other thread? That way you MIGHT not look like you have no idea what you're talking about. by oldedude on August 8, 2024 6:55 pm You're such a fucking moron. Oh, asshole. The dates for AO are 1961 to 1971. And they used them until there was none left in country.😞 Question #1. How long does it take for AO to get into the body? #2. What organs does AO attack? #3. What is the timespan between exposure and the beginning of symptoms? #4. What are the symptoms? #5. How long AFTER 1970 did Congress decide to "look into AO?" #6. How long after congress started it's "investigation" was there anything conclusive? #7. What year was AO authorized as a known cancerous chemical? #8. What year was that spending bill when AO was authorized for the VA to treat? (hint: it's usually two years). So things are never as you think. The more YOU say you know, the less you show you do.🤪 😕In 1979, a class action lawsuit was filed on behalf of 2.4 million veterans who were exposed to Agent Orange during their service in Vietnam. Five years later, in an out-of-court-settlement, seven large chemical companies that manufactured the herbicide agreed to pay $180 million in compensation to the veterans or their next of kin. 😟As late as June 2011, debate continued over whether so-called "Blue Water Navy" veterans (those who served aboard deep-sea vessels during the Vietnam War) should receive the same Agent Orange-related benefits as other veterans who served on the ground or on inland waterways. 😲In 1991, President George H.W. Bush signed into law the Agent Orange Act, which mandated that some diseases associated with Agent Orange and other herbicides (including non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, soft tissue sarcomas and chloracne) be treated as the result of wartime service. This helped codify the VA’s response to veterans with conditions related to their exposure to Agent Orange. 😱As of Feb, 2024, AO cases will be "fast tracked" by the VA. So these veterans are between 67 and 80 years old now that they're getting "fast tracked." AND that's "assuming that at the beginning of Kennedy's war, everyone was 18 years old. We appreciate your support asshole. You did save money. Most of the AO folks are dead thanks to your generous thoughts towards these folks. Most of them never got a chance to even apply for any benefits. They had to pay for all their own medical thanks to people like yourself. history.com militarytimes.com by oldedude on August 8, 2024 7:01 pm Keep going princess! you're on a roll!🤣 Go To Top

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