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What Special Counsel Jack Smith Said About the Trump Indictment Was Eye-Opening
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June 10, 2023 7:53 am
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Gang,

Townhall is the publication edited by that gay Guy Curt never heard of. The gay Guy is very Republican and very conservative but openly not MAGA. If he ever tips his pitches, he is, like pb, a DeSantis dude. Still...

...what Smith said during his presser that raised eyebrows. It’s also patently false, given the circumstances. Our friends at Twitchy highlighted it first.

"We have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone,” he said. It’s eye-opening because that’s not what’s happening here.

...where’s Joe Biden’s indictment? He had classified state secrets in his garage and inside his Delaware residence. Biden left classified materials at multiple locations. Will he be charged once he’s left office? Also, Jack, where have you been, sir?...

...We have two systems of justice: one where Democrats get away with everything and another where Republicans get wrapped up in political theater.

The FBI is covering up for Joe and Hunter. The timing of this indictment speaks to that, dropping hours after an incriminating document is revealed showing that a foreign national might have bribed Biden to the tune of $5 million. Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information while she was secretary of state, using and unauthorized and unsecured server to do all her official work. She was never indicted, and she deleted 30,000 emails under subpoena. The laws of this country apply to everyone—don’t make us laugh, sir. Biden allegedly took bribes and mishandled classified documents, but he’ll get away with it. That’s the end note to this chaotic scene. The FBI is covering up for Joe and Hunter. The timing of this indictment speaks to that, dropping hours after an incriminating document is revealed showing that a foreign national might have bribed Biden to the tune of $5 million. Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information while she was secretary of state, using and unauthorized and unsecured server to do all her official work. She was never indicted, and she deleted 30,000 emails under subpoena.

The laws of this country apply to everyone—don’t make us laugh, sir. Biden allegedly took bribes and mishandled classified documents, but he’ll get away with it. That’s the end note to this chaotic scene.


My SS friends,

Coming about as the 024 primaries are heating up, an indictment of Trump could have crushed him, except for the fact that decent, fair-minded people are universally appalled by the way our government has devolved into a Big Brother Banana Republic.

This'll be another huuuuuuuuuge win for Trump.


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  1. by Ponderer on June 10, 2023 9:10 am

    I'm sorry. But I don't really get how you think that posting the quotes of someone who obviously doesn't know what the hell he's talking about strengthens your position.

    There is no case that could be made against Biden or Pense for simply having those documents. Documents that the instant they were discovered were handed over to the proper authorities as they were instructed to.

    Had Trump done the exact same thing, we wouldn't be talking about any of this today. Trump would have committed no felonies or done anything to warrant... well, the eventual warrant they needed to get back the documents that he asserted were his but in no way were.

    Trump was good and god damned if he was going to turn over "his boxes". He didn't want ANYONE going through "his boxes". He even had them shuffled around to thwart any attempts to discover them get them back. AGAIN: READ THE INDICTMENT. He committed felony obstruction dozens of times. He LIED to the FBI and other government offices. He ordered the documents that had been legally subpoenaed to be hidden from his lawyers and investigators so that he could keep them. It's that simple and they simply have him dead to rights.




    What has Biden done again...? Oh that's right. You got nothing. And unfortunately for you and the Trump campaign, indictments are not issued simply on baseless speculation or wild conjecture or propagandistic innuendo.






  2. by Ponderer on June 10, 2023 9:16 am

    The MAGA Republicans' reaction to reality that they don't like and can't do a thing about...


    WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! WAAAAAAHHH WAAAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


  3. by oldedude on June 10, 2023 12:20 pm
    There is no case that could be made against Biden or Pense for simply having those documents. Documents that the instant they were discovered were handed over to the proper authorities as they were instructed to.

    That is patently FALSE. The charges are HAVING classified in your possession without 1. a lawful reason to be authorized to have those documents in your possession;
    1a. Have the proper clearance to handle such documents
    and 1b. Have the proper reason to have the documents in your possession
    and 1c. Have documents directly and legitimately in accordance with your job

    and 2. having said documents in a secured location.

    The fact they handed them over "could" have been considered "oversight" IF they had a right to keep copies out of the secured location (SCIF) in the first place. Neither they or hilcliton had the "right" to take secure copies out of their SCIF without authorization.

    I do agree, Pence (first) welcomed a search of his grounds for any classified.
    After pedojoe got caught twice, allowed a search of his grounds. This "might" show willingness to assist with the investigation. An Air Force LTC had 30 TS documents and was given 3 years of federal time.


    hilcliton admitted under oath to having the classified on an unclassified server, eliminating 33,000 emails, and destroying evidence with ball peen hammers, which included government hardware such as government owned phones, hard drives, portable drives, etc.

    Robert Birchum, 55, was sentenced in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in February to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to the national defense of the United States. Birchum was also fined $25,000.

    According to the plea agreement, Birchum, who retired in 2018 as a lieutenant colonel, served in various positions in intelligence over his 29-year career, including those requiring him to work with classified intelligence information for the Joint Special Operations Command, the Special Operations Command and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

    In 2017, law enforcement officers discovered that Birchum knowingly removed more than 300 classified files or documents, including more than 30 items marked top secret, from authorized locations, prosecutors said. Birchum kept these classified materials in his home, his overseas officer’s quarters and a storage pod in his driveway.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on June 10, 2023 12:34 pm
    "The charges are HAVING classified in your possession without 1. a lawful reason to be authorized to have those documents in your possession;" ---HtS

    Wrong.

    18 U.S.C. 1924 – Unauthorized Removal and Retention of Classified Documents or Material
    Section 1924 makes it a crime to knowingly remove classified documents with the intent to retain them in an unauthorized location.

    Trump is charged with "Willful Retention of National Defense Information" (see lines 75-77



    int.nyt.com


  5. by HatetheSwamp on June 10, 2023 1:23 pm

    Where did HtS post that?


  6. by Curt_Anderson on June 10, 2023 1:26 pm
    Sorry, that should have been credited to Olde Dude. Although you have expressed the same misperception.


  7. by oldedude on June 10, 2023 2:12 pm
    Okay. I'll bite. Explain to me why someone that doesn't have the authority to take things out of a SCIF doesn't "willfully" take those things out of the SCIF when you have to destroy even your notes of a classified meeting before you leave a SCIF. This is just ANOTHER "reason, justification, or excuse you have for pedojoe that doesn't make any sense at all. It just increases my thoughts that you don't actually have the ability to make decisions based on any fact whatsoever.


  8. by oldedude on June 10, 2023 2:28 pm
    Oh, just to make sure you're aware, I'm not saying the trumpster wasn't found with no purposefully taken information. My statement was more of an indictment of him and closing the gap. My statement still stands. You can't convince me the AF officer, Mike (whom I like), pedojoe, hilclit, mrclit, and the trumpster did made several separate acts in getting the documents out of a secured area by deception and illegally keeping them. The issues come with mrclit and trumpster because they were the only ones with special rules the legal system hasn't really come to agreement on.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 10, 2023 2:35 pm

    Explain to me why someone that doesn't have the authority to take things out of a SCIF doesn't "willfully" take those things out of the SCIF when you have to destroy even your notes of a classified meeting before you leave a SCIF...

    Right. That comment was so inane I couldn't bring myself to bother. So, thanks, OD.


  10. by Ponderer on June 10, 2023 2:51 pm

    "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! WAAAAAAHHH WAAAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!" -You Trump Supporters & Defenders

    .


  11. by Curt_Anderson on June 10, 2023 3:06 pm
    "Okay. I'll bite. Explain to me why someone that doesn't have the authority to take things out of a SCIF doesn't "willfully" take those things out of the SCIF when you have to destroy even your notes of a classified meeting before you leave a SCIF." ---OD

    What evidence do you have that the classified documents that Joe Biden or Mike Pence had were ever in a SCIF? Or if it was in a SCIF that it was removed improperly?

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.

    Even information classified as top secret/sensitive compartmented information may be removed from a SCIF as long as proper protocols are followed, experts said. The same is true for material with lower classifications.

    poynter.org


  12. by HatetheSwamp on June 10, 2023 3:23 pm

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh, Curt. Maybe OD'll take that seriously.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on June 10, 2023 3:42 pm
    HtS,
    You seem dubious. Consider Hillary's 30,000 emails. Then FBI director James Comey said:

    With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”

    I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.


    Obviously the emails she received or sent from home were not in a SCIF. Anything that was classified or retroactively classified and printed out would be considered a classified document.

    Trump has been charged with violating a provision of the Espionage Act, a 1917 law that makes it a crime to hold onto secret government documents without authorization. This provision was enacted before the advent of the modern classification system, and it does not require prosecutors to prove that the secret documents had been deemed classified. Trump has claimed that he declassified everything that he took from the White House, although no credible evidence has emerged to support that claim.
    fbi.gov


  14. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 1:18 am

    So, Clinton broke the law but, exercising prosecutorial discretion, Comey chose not to charge her. And, Jack Smith chose to indict Trump.

    THAT'S THE, as po'd say, effin, POINT OF THE ARTICLE!!!!!

    Everyone in this position has not been prosecuted...'cept the antiSwamp guy. If you think that arguments going away, you're crazy.

    This will be seen by tens of millions as what walks like a duck being a duck.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 1:27 am

    Tens upon tens of millions are going to parrot this. They already are.

    View Video


  16. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 4:20 am

    What Megyn said. Do you progressive SwampDwellers understand how much this helps Trump!!!!!?

    youtube.com


  17. by oldedude on June 11, 2023 5:21 am
    What evidence do you have that the classified documents that Joe Biden or Mike Pence had were ever in a SCIF? Or if it was in a SCIF that it was removed improperly?
    Because classified MUST, by definition, be read in a SCIF (The oval office is one of those places that is both). IF you're reading classified at an open desk, your desk is either in a SCIF, or you're in violation of the law.


    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy.

    WRONG. I have no idea where you find these hideous references that can be sooo f'ing wrong. They must be on sheeple sites for you to bleat about to make you feel good about yourself. You need to find the DOD regulation and read that.
    Oh, that's right, you don't have the clearance to read the regulation...

    The only thing that differs in classified material is the classification. FOUO is not a "classification." Confidential, SECRET, and TOP SECRET are the only recognized classifications. Now, within that, there are different ways agencies can reduce the folks that can see them. DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security, DOE, etc have some of these. These are agreed upon abbreviations that are in the regulation referring to classifications.

    My clearance was TS/SCI... If I were read into a case, I could learn about what they had in a case. We worked a lot with TS/NOFORN.

    Can classified documents be removed from secure facilities? Sometimes.
    I'll agree with this. What they didn't bother to tell you is that you can't just pull out a classified document in the middle of a restaurant. You CAN however, transport the documents from one location to another under certain circumstances. 1. You have to have a courier card that allows you to have the documents outside of a SCIF. The package cannot be opened until it's in another secure location. It would be doubtful if anyone you're talking about had a courier, It may be their fledglings may have had one.


    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.

    What he doesn't realize is the area he worked in fit the bill of a SCIF, but looked exactly like a lab. And I'll guarantee that "lab" was certified as a SCIF.


  18. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 5:55 am

    You two Trump supporters are the personification of the old adage, A little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

    I would like to propose the following corollary in youz two's honor...

    Almost no knowledge is a catastrophic thing.






    "Because classified MUST, by definition, be read in a SCIF" -olde dude






    Really.

    So tell me, olde dude. How do classified emails work in a SCIF? Are they only being sent to you by other people in the SCIF with you...? Hillary composed those 30,000 supposedly classified emails in a SCIF...? And then they were supposed to stay there...? Or was she sent those 30,000 classified emails while in the SCIF and she was then not allowed to take her phone, which wasn't allowed in a SCIF in the first place, out of the SCIF...?


    🙄



  19. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 5:57 am

    Thanks, OD.

    Curt, you're just going full on Good German. That's not helpful.


  20. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 6:00 am


    "What he doesn't realize is the area he worked in fit the bill of a SCIF, but looked exactly like a lab. And I'll guarantee that "lab" was certified as a SCIF.",/b> -olde dude



  21. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 6:06 am

    What's in those boxes, there, po. Spare rolls of TP?


  22. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 6:39 am

    You read the indictment. You know what's in those boxes. Those are "Trump's Boxes", that his co-conspirator was tasked with moving and who took these pictures of the boxes before doing so. These are the boxes that contained the highly classified materials that Trump was obstructing the feds from retrieving.

    These aren't the fed's pictures. These were pictures taken by the criminals in the act of committing their crimes. Which they are also being indicted for along with Trump. Come on, Bill. You read the indictment.



  23. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 7:14 am

    Trump possessed THAT MANY still classified documents? Doesn't that strain credulity even for someone struck with Stage 4 TDS such as yourself?


  24. by Donna on June 11, 2023 7:31 am

    If Trump had cooperated with authorities to return all of the classified documents as Pence and Biden did, even though he took them home with him after his term of office was up, no criminal charges would have been filed against him.




  25. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 7:41 am

    Donna,

    I'd like to agree with you...but, I don't.


  26. by oldedude on June 11, 2023 8:21 am
    "What he doesn't realize is the area he worked in fit the bill of a SCIF, but looked exactly like a lab. And I'll guarantee that "lab" was certified as a SCIF.",/b> -olde dude

    Oh, just to make sure you're aware, I'm not saying the trumpster wasn't found with no purposefully taken information. My statement was more of an indictment of him and closing the gap. My statement still stands. You can't convince me the AF officer, Mike (whom I like), pedojoe, hilclit, mrclit, and the trumpster did made several separate acts in getting the documents out of a secured area by deception and illegally keeping them. The issues come with mrclit and trumpster because they were the only ones with special rules the legal system hasn't really come to agreement on.🙄

    So tell me, olde dude. How do classified emails work in a SCIF? Are they only being sent to you by other people in the SCIF with you...? Hillary composed those 30,000 supposedly classified emails in a SCIF...? And then they were supposed to stay there...? Or was she sent those 30,000 classified emails while in the SCIF and she was then not allowed to take her phone, which wasn't allowed in a SCIF in the first place, out of the SCIF...?

    There are phones cleared for classified, they are treated as the classification they are cleared to (mostly TS)' It's illegal to get classified emails off an unclassified server or any other piece of equipment. I've been saying this for a couple of years now.

    If you have a classified account, you have to go in to the SCIF to look at your classified emails on the appropriate system (SIPR or JWICS). Obviously you can't get on to this site (or any other unclassified site) on either one of those systems. It's kind of a pain unless you work in a SCIF, which many people do.

    Your other question. Secure email can only be sent from another classified computer with the same classification. SIPR cannot send to NIPR (a government unclassified computer), or JWICS (TS system). So you have to check your system(s) every day, or more if you're message traffic is especially heavy.


  27. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 8:21 am

    Bill, you think Trump woulda gotten an indictment against him anyway, even if he had done nothing wrong like Biden and Pence didn't...?





  28. by oldedude on June 11, 2023 8:26 am
    With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”

    I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.


    You're taking the word of a "person" that was part of LYING to the FISA Court ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. That's fukking fresh.

    They have no records of the emails that were bleachbit scrubbed from the illegal drives she had. The rest of the evidence was destroyed with ball peen hammers in order to not introduce them as evidence to the legal subpoena.


  29. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 8:32 am

    "So you have to check your system(s) every day, or more if you're message traffic is especially heavy." -olde dude

    ...From a SCIF? Every time you need to read or send a classified email? Those 30,000 classified Hillary emails that were deleted had to be read and/or sent from a SCIF?



  30. by Ponderer on June 11, 2023 8:36 am

    "You're taking the word of a "person" that was [...]" -olde dude

    Well if you can't even accept that a human being that you may take issue with is actually even a person, then there's no point even talking to you.

    That's some pretty heavy knee-jerk bias there, od. Totally blows anything else you say about the issue clean out of the water.



  31. by HatetheSwamp on June 11, 2023 10:45 am

    po,

    If Trump were Swamp he'd have gotten the same treatment Hillary got.


  32. by Ponderer on June 12, 2023 7:05 am

    But Hillary didn't do anything illegal, Bill. Hoards of GOP investigators never found anything to ever indict her for after years of concerted effort to. There was no evidence of her committing any crime. That's why she was never indicted.

    It has nothing to do with any "swamp" if someone is not charged with crimes that there is no evidence that they ever committed. You think Hillary got special treatment because after years of GOP investigations she wasn't charged for any crimes she didn't commit...?

    Meanwhile... Trump committed blatant felonies like they were going out of style. He committed felonies to cover up felonies. You read the indictment. The evidence against him is plain and simple and tremendously damning. And flabbergastingly obvious. That's why he was indicted. Because there is a ton of evidence against him.


    There is no comparison between anything that Hillary might have done wrong and what Trump might have done wrong. It's apples and a 3-mile long train full of oranges.


    But then as a conservative, you don't know or understand what an equitable comparison even is. So why am I even bothering to try to explain this to you.


  33. by HatetheSwamp on June 12, 2023 7:33 am

    That's crap, po.


  34. by islander on June 12, 2023 7:41 am

    ”A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

    "Whataboutism" and "false equivalency" are all the Republicans have in their attempts to defend Trump.

    Hillary committed no crimes and was never charged or convicted of any crimes, Neither Biden, Pence, nor Trump are being charged for possession of any classified documents they quickly and willingly returned when asked.


  35. by HatetheSwamp on June 12, 2023 8:00 am

    isle,

    What, specifically, is the Whataboutism with Biden?...other than y'nes claiming Whataboutism?

    And, Hillary did commit crimes. James Comey exercised prosecutorial discretion in her case, precisely as Jack Smith could have with the antiSwamp guy.


  36. by Ponderer on June 12, 2023 8:23 am

    "That's crap, po." -Hate

    Sorry you feel that way. But it isn't. You are.


    (Oooo this is a goodie...!)

    "What, specifically, is the Whataboutism with Biden?" -Hate



    Ummm... This:



    "So long as "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" indicted, we get something close to equal justice. Otherwise,..." -Hate

    You and od won't shut up with all the whataboutism for fucksake! You've both been spewing nothing but whataboutism for weeks now as the boom lowers on that fat orange head you worship. Whatabout Biden! What about Hillary! As if anyone else doing something wrong means that Trump DIDN'T do anything wrong. On and on and on you go with the whataboutism.

    All you blithering morons have to defend and support Trump with is whataboutism!!! You certainly have nothing to defend him with to claim that he didn't do the crimes he's committed of.



  37. by HatetheSwamp on June 12, 2023 9:32 am

    ""So long as "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" indicted, we get something close to equal justice. Otherwise,..." -Hate"

    How's that Whataboutism?

    Do you doubt me? When "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" Special Counsel announces that he won't be charged, there will be an absolute political explosion.

    po, I'm not supporting Trump. What's wrong with you? I think that Trump's despicable. I support Ron DeSantis for President.

    One thing Jonathan Turley said over the weekend is that progressives have gone to the well so many times with Trump that it's likely that people won't support this legal attack. He's right.


  38. by Ponderer on June 12, 2023 2:09 pm

    "How's that Whataboutism?" -Hate

    You are essentially saying if Trump is getting indicted, whatabout indicting Biden too...! Or it's just not fair...!. That is what you are saying, Bill. You and olde dude both. Whine about it all you want to.


    "Do you doubt me? When "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" Special Counsel announces that he won't be charged, there will be an absolute political explosion." -Hate

    Well what...? Do you expect them to make up some crime that he committed when they can't find one, just to placate the deplorables?

    Oh I am quite well aware that there are many many people like you for whom facts and evidence are no concern when supporting their Glorious Leader. You all who will be inconsolable with their lord and savior being found guilty and accountable for the crimes he has committed.

    But justice can't be hobbled by such considerations. Even though there will be far more people upset if he isn't put on trial for his crimes, proceeding with the trial as soon as possible is the right thing to do.

    (I mean just a huge hell of a lot more people. I'm tellin' ya. Being moderates of both parties and independents and left wing liberal progressives, they of course won't be stupid enough to get all Storm-the-Capitol-and-Hang-Mike Pence! upset about it. But I can assure you that their disgruntlement will be intensely severe.)

    (And they vote too ya know.)


  39. by HatetheSwamp on June 12, 2023 2:32 pm

    You are essentially saying if Trump is getting indicted, whatabout indicting Biden too...! Or it's just not fair...!. That is what you are saying, Bill. You and olde dude both. Whine about it all you want to.

    I have no doubt that someone out there's saying that. But, not ol pb. I'm saying that when the Former Trucker's Special Counsel announces that no charges will be brought, people, not just GOPs will care.

    Oh I am quite well aware that there are many many people like you for whom facts and evidence are no concern when supporting their Glorious Leader. You all who will be inconsolable with their lord and savior being found guilty and accountable for the crimes he has committed.

    po, you've burned me over and over on Trump. I remember, like J6 was yesterday, that, on the day after J6, you were proclaiming that Trump has been caught leading an insurrection. You are deranged. Let's face it. Be honest.

    Thing is, po, I'm not the constitutional scholar that you are. But, I do follow politics carefully. What I know today is that a nice sized handful of people who are not MAGAs are comparing what's in the indictment with what Hillary's accused of doing. They note that she, a Dem, a progressive and Swamp insider, was not prosecuted. Trump, a DC outsider, is being charged by a prosecutor who wants this trial to happen as soon as possible.

    My sense of the American electorate is that it values fairness. Try adding up Hillary and the presumed prosecutorial decision not to indict the Doddering Old Fool...forget Whataboutism, the unfairness is compelling.


  40. by oldedude on June 12, 2023 3:13 pm
    Pondy with the picture of trumpster boxes

    I was answering this post from curt regarding labs "not being SCIFs.
    Curt-The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy.

    "What he doesn't realize is the area he worked in fit the bill of a SCIF, but looked exactly like a lab. And I'll guarantee that "lab" was certified as a SCIF.",/b> -olde dude

    The boxes is a completely different issue.




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