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Why is it...?
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January 31, 2023 9:44 am
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Why is it that a state like Florida can take taxpayer money and give it to parents to send their kids to private, religious, myth-based schools that teach that the Universe is only 6,000 years old,

but black students aren't even allowed to learn about the true realities of what happened to their people in the past in schools that they are paying the tuition to attend?

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on January 31, 2023 9:56 am

    Please provide a link indicating that that's the case.


  2. by oldedude on January 31, 2023 10:56 am
    Agreed. Your desperate and racist paranoia is absolutely controlling your life, po. There can be no expectation of any rational, realistic recognition of the reality of this issue ever coming from you while you are so cemented in your bigotry driven, pants-pissing terror of people learning any more about what was done to them in the past, and by who.

    But she can't present any links to back up what he is declaring because no such links exist. All we have here is her babbling, racism-driven misrepresentation of what the curriculum is about.

    She took something he read somewhere and did exactly what I said she did. She ridiculously lied about, misrepresented, and blew out of all factual proportion the true facts of this subject in order to claim something that wasn't the case.

    There's also that...


  3. by Ponderer on January 31, 2023 11:22 am

    "Please provide a link indicating that that's the case." -Hate

    Which part or parts of my opening post are you two bone heads having trouble accepting is basic fact?

    • That state taxpayer money goes to pay for school vouchers and scholarships in Florida?

    • That parents can use those taxpayer funded vouchers and scholarships to send their kids to private religious schools?

    • That some religious schools teach that evolution never happened?

    • That Trump 2.0 cancelling black studies courses in college will deny any black students access to learning what those courses would have taught them?

    • That black students and/or their parents ever pay for their own college tuition?


    Help me out a little here. It's actually pretty difficult to wade through the tremendous percentage of reality that you two clowns are willing and determined to refute or ignore.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on January 31, 2023 11:49 am

    Links?


  5. by oldedude on January 31, 2023 12:45 pm
    But she can't present any links to back up what he is declaring because no such links exist. All we have here is her babbling, racism-driven misrepresentation of what the curriculum is about.

    She took something he read somewhere and did exactly what I said she did. She ridiculously lied about, misrepresented, and blew out of all factual proportion the true facts of this subject in order to claim something that wasn't the case.


  6. by oldedude on January 31, 2023 12:47 pm
    We talked about this earlier. She maintains that her "perception" of something is the absolute fact. There is no other way to think about it.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on January 31, 2023 12:51 pm

    OD,

    There's some pretty wacky stuff out there so who knows what po could link to from a progressive propaganda site. The day may come when po comes up with links and we'll have to assess how legitimate po's sources are.

    But, it is amazingly interesting, ain't, that, to this moment, there're no links at all.


  8. by Ponderer on January 31, 2023 2:39 pm

    I'll type reeeeeeeealy sloooooooooooowly so that you can catch it this time...

    What part(s) do you want me to show you links for?

    Each of those bullet pointed items is true, basic reality. I could spend an hour or so tracing down links each and every one of them, but you still wouldn't accept the facts.

    Jesus, Bill. If I told you that the sun rises in the East, you'd want a link to prove it. I'm not wasting my time just because you want to see me to waste it.

    You assholes are just trying to obfuscate the fact that you can NEVER support any of your flaming balderdash with any facts or evidence.

    You lobotomy procedure alumni can't even state what the hell you are even asking for links to.

    But I'll give you another chance: What part(s) of my opening post do you want me to show you links for?

    Basically Bill, what I'm asking you is... What part(s) of my opening post do you want me to show you links for?

    To put it in as simple English as possible, what part(s) of my opening post do you want me to show you links for?

    And while you are at it, perhaps you can tell me what part(s) of my opening post do you want me to show you links for?


  9. by oldedude on January 31, 2023 8:36 pm
    This is why people don't engage you. You're a moron at best. I don't care who you are against, your argument is a non sequitur at best. and is a stupid answer at best.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 2:31 am

    po,

    To make it simple, provide links for any at all you can support in the real world.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 2:57 am

    po!

    You claim to be a highly informed authority on the laws and regulations relating to public education in Florida. Me?, I'm just a simple redneck from Alabama Pennsylvania.

    So, yeah. Links!


  12. by Donna on February 1, 2023 6:49 am



    And when I do, you'll admit that you were wrong...?




  13. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 6:57 am

    Wrong? About what? Wanting a real world source for po's claims?

    I don't know Pennsylvania public education law as well as po claims to know Florida’s. Not nearly as well. Can you fault me for wanting to know the sources?


  14. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:02 am

    Jesus, Bill. How knowledgeable do you need to be to know that public school vouchers are paid for by state tax funds for fukk sake? Are you really that blitheringly ignorant???


    (please note link below that supports my first two bullet points. More to follow...)

    apnews.com


  15. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:06 am

    • That some religious schools teach that evolution never happened?

    Such schools exist in Florida...

    newsweek.com


  16. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:11 am

    • That Trump 2.0 cancelling black studies courses in college will deny any black students access to learning what those courses would have taught them?


    "Black history is American history. DeSantis is stealing our students' freedom to learn it."
    msn.com


  17. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:14 am

    • That black students and/or their parents ever pay for their own college tuition?


    priceonomics.com


  18. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:16 am

    So now that we are clear that everything I said is supported and true,

    Why is it that a state like Florida can take taxpayer money and give it to parents to send their kids to private, religious, myth-based schools that teach that the Universe is only 6,000 years old,

    but black students aren't even allowed to learn about the true realities of what happened to their people in the past in schools that they are paying the tuition to attend?


  19. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:19 am

    I say that it's because Trump 2.0 is a fukking racist, megalomaniacal, sociopath.

    He's not called Trump 2.0 for nothing.


  20. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 7:23 am

    From your article:

    Black history is American history. DeSantis is stealing our students' freedom to learn it.
    Opinion by Becky Pringle -


    po,

    An opinion piece is not a source of fact. I wasn't asking for links to deranged progressive hate speech. Those articles fill the progressive SwampMedia. I've seen them. None are rooted in the real world.

    I appreciate the effort. Truly. And, I apologize for my part in any misunderstanding.

    But, I was asking for facts, not the sort of sermonizing that's running 24/7 on MSNBC and CNN.

    FYI: "...the Florida curriculum guidelines demand that schools teach, “The history and contributions of Americans of the African diaspora to society.” And also, “No person is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously, solely by his or her race or sex.” Every American should salute that statement. Are all schools teaching this?"

    selectsmart.com


  21. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:26 am

    Before I refine any further searches to prove what a fukking asshole you are, were there any other links that you felt driven to take issue with...?


  22. by oldedude on February 1, 2023 7:34 am
    Actually, so little of what you have said on this thread is true. Period.

    The object of this is not to be racist about the teaching. I know it's hard for you (et.al.) NOT to be racist butat least try.

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday defended his state’s rejection of an advanced placement course on black history, calling the instruction progressive “indoctrination” posing as impartial academic pursuit.

    DeSantis was hit with a wave of criticism last week after Florida education officials nixed the course on African American history, with some — including White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre — asserting that the move was rooted in racism.

    But the Republican governor rejected that portrayal Monday, arguing that the state wants “education, not indoctrination.” He claimed that elements of the course were permeated with “radical” political perspectives that failed to capture the spectrum of black public opinion on several issues, including criminal justice.

    DeSantis highlighted course materials that he said advocated for the abolition of prisons. “It’s not fair that to say that somehow abolishing prisons is somehow linked to black experience, that’s what black people want,” he said. “I don’t think that’s true at all. I think they want law and order, just like everyone else wants law and order.”

    “It’s not fair that to say that somehow abolishing prisons is somehow linked to black experience, that’s what black people want,” he said. “I don’t think that’s true at all. I think they want law and order, just like everyone else wants law and order.”

    In explaining the rejection, Florida education officials said parts of the course syllabus ran counter to the state’s bans on critical race theory and “woke” ideology in classrooms.

    The Florida Department of Education sent a letter to the College Board arguing that the class — which confers college credits to students while still in high school — was “contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value.”

    They added to the organization that they would entertain a revised version of the course in the future.

    DeSantis repeated Monday that the teaching of black history is required in Florida schools and has mocked suggestions that he is attempting to censor the subject outright.

    “Our state education standards not only don’t prevent but they require the teaching of black history,” he said. “All the important things. That’s part of our core curriculum.”

    nypost.com


  23. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:35 am

    Aw fuk it. Here you go...

    It shouldn't take anything more than plain basic logic to understand the reality that if a student is kept from taking a high school course for advanced college placement, which goes into far greater detail than any standard high school history class, that such a student will be deprived of what that course had to offer them.

    But then plain basic logic was never your strong point, Bill.
    newsweek.com


  24. by oldedude on February 1, 2023 7:40 am
    Unfortunately, the FACTS are that DeSantis and the state school board are willing to re-evaluate a course on Black history if it's revised. This is only the THIRD time I've said it.


  25. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 7:41 am

    Journalism. News articles. The reporting of fact. That's what is appropriate here.

    Just sayin. I'm curious how you know so much about the law pertaining to public school education in Florida. As I posted earlier, you're claiming a more intimate knowledge of what goes on in Florida, a state you've never lived in, than I have of our law here...by a long chalk. If you really know what you condemn me for not knowing about Florida, how do you know it and why did you go to the effort to know it?

    What strikes me most about this exchange is your anger over the fact that I wouldn't know what you're asserting to be true in a state 1,000 miles from my own.

    I know that you admire my intellect. But, c'mon man, gimme a break!


  26. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:43 am

    Pardon me, olde dude. But since I am being derided for posting one published opinion to support what I said, I am afraid that you will be required to post a link to factual, evidentiary corroboration of every single piece of opinion that you quoted Trump 2.0 opining in your post.

    Sorry. I know what a chore that will be, but you set yourself up for it by posting nothing but baseless opinion from a known liar and sociopathic racist bent on making his bigotry law without any data to back it up.


  27. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:50 am

    "DeSantis and the state school board are willing to re-evaluate a course on Black history if it's revised."


    Yeah I know about all that.

    But since no one, especially Trump 2.0, has ever actually pointed to a single specific thing in the course that needs to be "revised", the claim is quite highly suspect and insincere at best.

    My guesses are that Trump 2.0 is never specific about his qualms with the course because, 1. He has no idea about any specifics and just wants the course kept from black students. Or, 2. He doesn't want to put any light on what he finds objectionable about the courses because then he would be bringing attention to the very thing he wants to keep from black students.


  28. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 7:52 am

    Pardon me, olde dude. But since I am being derided for posting one published opinion to support what I said...

    C'mon po! That was a part of the original news conference when DeSantis addressed the press to splain the AP course decision, or don't you know that? Didn't you bother to acquaint yourself with the basic facts?


  29. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:54 am

    Forgive me, olde dude. I missed seeing your link to that graphic which does point to a half dozen or so concerns with certain authors' writings in the included reading of the course.

    My apologies.


  30. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:57 am

    I see. So everything that Trump 2.0 said in that press conference was pure, undeniable and established fact. I see.

    So Bill, why is it that to you, every opinion by any conservative is automatically and undeniably as good as fact and apparently defines reality, but any opinion by a progressive or Democrat must be followed by links to published corroboration establishing that it is in fact fact?


  31. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 7:58 am

    And you say you aren't in a cult.


  32. by oldedude on February 1, 2023 8:01 am
    I'm good.

    It's just interesting to see the debate down here where locals and politicians are arguing the cases very publicly. The DNC is trying to destroy him by any means possible before the election, so of course the MSM is totally aligned with them.


  33. by Ponderer on February 1, 2023 9:43 am

    "Actually, so little of what you have said on this thread is true. Period." -olde dude

    So apparently you don't believe any of the links I posted supporting everything I said? You believe that they are all lies? Question mark?


  34. by oldedude on February 1, 2023 10:09 am
    I believe that you believe the media you've read is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I also understand there are many facets to this story, and I've been watching this pretty closely. I was very interested in what they found horrifying enough to 1. make the decision they made, and 2. announce it to the world. If the course has pieces in it that say that one race is superior and one inferior, I agree with them. They have shown to my satisfaction the course has elements that will teach that.

    There are many other courses on the history of non WASP cultures in the schools (required by state law). You can't touch the history of the state without touching the diversity of the state from it's invasion of the Spanish and French explorers, back to the English convicts, the constant movement of indigenous tribes in the area which comprised most of the slave market until the mid 1800's. We're diverse enough to have Spanish as a legal language.


  35. by HatetheSwamp on February 1, 2023 10:43 am

    So Bill, why is it that to you, every opinion by any conservative is automatically and undeniably as good as fact and apparently defines reality, but any opinion by a progressive or Democrat must be followed by links to published corroboration establishing that it is in fact fact?


    pb doesn't care about anyone's opinion. When even a Dem expenses an opinion supported by fact, pb takes note.


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