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Indisputable evidence that Trump incited the Capitol riot and worse.

By Curt_Anderson
June 17, 2022 2:56 pm
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Note the time on this Tweet. Compare it to the NPR-provided timeline of the January 6th events.

The insurrectionists' assault was already in full swing. They were breaking windows and doors, and climbing walls. The police were overrun and in a pitched battle with the rioters. Trump's message was seen (and read aloud) by his cultists as encouragement and presidential permission.

The mob was chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Trump certainly knew (as did anybody with a television set) that the rioters were attacking the Capitol building with the intent to disrupt the proforma declaration of Biden's electoral victory. Trump should know. He had earlier given a speech on the Ellipse in which he spurred the crowd on sending them to the Capitol to "protect our country and the Constitution".

Trump sicced the mob on Mike Pence. He certainly put Pence's life and members of Congress's lives at risk.




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Comments on "Indisputable evidence that Trump incited the Capitol riot and worse.":

  1. by Donna on June 17, 2022 4:00 pm
    Liz Cheney in her opening remarks said that according to Trump's advisors, when the insurrection was in full swing and they were chanting "Hang Mike Pence!", Trump remarked "Maybe our supporters have the right idea’. Mike Pence ‘deserves it."


  2. by Curt_Anderson on June 17, 2022 5:08 pm
    There is a somewhat viable argument that Trump is too stupid or has a personality disorder that won't allow him to accept the reality that he lost the election. Like I (and others) have said Trump is using the "George Constanza defense". After 60 court cases, his own AG and others, I call it willful blindness.

    But I don't see how he can claim that he was unaware of the riot or what the rioters' intentions (or what their directions) were.


  3. by HatetheSwamp on June 17, 2022 5:15 pm

    There is a somewhat viable argument that Trump is too stupid or has a personality disorder that won't allow him to accept the reality that he lost the election.

    As I said, he was smart enough to beat Hillary when the whole Swamp was lined up to crush him like a bug.

    Thing is, he still doesn't KNOW that Joe didn't cheat, no matter what Barr and Ivanka think.


  4. by Donna on June 17, 2022 5:22 pm

    He KNEW that he lost the election and that the votes were all certified, recounted in many instances, and that all his legal attempts to make anything out of his bullshit ended in abject failure.

    He KNEW that what he was trying to do to stop the final certification of the votes was illegal.



  5. by Curt_Anderson on June 17, 2022 5:33 pm
    "Thing is, he still doesn't KNOW that Joe didn't cheat, no matter what Barr and Ivanka think." -HtS

    It's called willful blindness or willful ignorance among other legal terms. But if even he really believed Biden cheated that doesn't mean Trump can obstruct official proceedings, incite riots, etc.



  6. by islander on June 17, 2022 5:39 pm
    Hate-You don't KNOW that Trump doesn't know he lost the election.

    Most of us look at and weigh the evidence before coming to a decision.

    The committee has been presenting overwhelming vidence that shows he knew or should know he lost the election but nobody KNOWS what he is thinking, but like a jury, we have to weigh the evidence.


  7. by oldedude on June 18, 2022 5:29 pm
    So far, I haven't heard any facts that support the title. Just a bunch of blind dogma. I have told Donna, Curt, and Pondy facts, does that mean they now have their mind changed? Absolutely not.

    Y'all are starting to sound like shifty. "I have in disputable evidence that Trump did such and such.." Which never happened.

    And if it were such a threat to our "democracy" (which is totally inaccurate), why is the biggest thing they can charge them with are misdemeanors. You would think with the horrendous acts they did, there would be a plethora of felony convictions and long jail sentences. "According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, 80 defendants were sentenced to periods of incarceration, with longer prison terms for those who engaged in violence or threats. So far, the median prison sentence for the Jan. 6 rioters is 45 days. An additional 57 rioters have been sentenced to periods of home detention, while most sentences have included fines, community service and probation for low-level offenses like illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, which is a misdemeanor."

    time.com


  8. by oldedude on June 18, 2022 5:38 pm
    Okay, that didn't go like planned. So where are the Treason convictions? Or even the violent rioting? Not there.... House arrest for those people trying to overthrow our government.

    Meanwhile, one lower court judge gets murdered, and a SCOTUS judge has an assassination attempt on him. Then another's children are openly threatened. Places that try to help pregnant women are firebombed and attacked. People are threatening officers of the court (a real felony under 18 U.S. Code § 1503). And yet the left claim themselves to be victims. This isn't surprising, they live in a world of victimhood. It's always someone else's fault for the things that happen to them.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 18, 2022 5:44 pm

    The committee has been presenting overwhelming vidence that shows he knew or should know he lost the election...


    Should have known?

    I disagree, isle, and this is the problem with the one-sided presentation of the story...your political porn.

    The hearings only tell what the Committee wants you to know.

    However, on this point, if you were watching the news at the time, you know that Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis and who knows how many othets were telling Trump what he wanted to hear at the same time Barr was telling him what he didn't want to hear.

    Can you tell me that you honestly are convinced beyond doubt that OrangeMan was convinced by bookish Bill Barr when so many others were telling him what he did want to believe?

    C'mon. It's okay.

    You can admit it. We're all friends here.


  10. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2022 5:46 pm
    The "and worse" I mentioned in the title was that Trump had sicced an angry mob, that Trump had riled up, onto Mike Pence, AFTER Trump knew the riot was in full swing. Pence came within 40 feet of the "Hang Mike Pence" zealots. He ended up hiding in loading dock.

    Trump disparaged Pence as essentially a traitor to the insurrectionists who believed they were patriots with a presidential blessing. Good grief, the gallows were already built. Are you going to say with a straight face that Trump didn't know that either? The willful blindness defense can only be carried so far.
    newsweek.com


  11. by Ponderer on June 19, 2022 3:52 pm

    Whatever Trump believed, as an American president, his duty was to stop the violence. Not further enrage the mob for fukk sake.


  12. by Ponderer on June 19, 2022 3:54 pm

    Goodness. I hadn't realized just how much I missed olde dude's particular type of humor.

    He's still got it!


  13. by oldedude on June 19, 2022 5:00 pm
    by Ponderer on June 19, 2022 3:52 pm

    Whatever Trump believed, as an American president, his duty was to stop the violence. Not further enrage the mob for fukk sake."

    You mean like speaking against threatening SCOTUS members and their families (including children) with death or severe bodily harm? Or murdering federal judges? Or attempting to murder SCOTUS judges?

    FYSA- These are ALL felonies. and this "president" should have the duty to stop the violence, Not to further enrage the mob for fukk sake.

    If this "insurrection" was so horrible, why are they charging petty misdemeanors? Why isn't anyone charged with a felony? Why aren't there any charges for treason? or citing a riot? or citing an insurrection? Why are they violating the constitution by keeping them in prison for over a year waiting for a trial? That, under any stretch of US law violates a "speedy trial."


  14. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 5:09 pm
    OD,
    Several people HAVE been charged with felonies in connection to January 6th.

    Here are a few of them who either pleaded guilty to felonies or were convicted of felonies in the past couple of weeks.
    justice.gov
    nbcnews.com


  15. by oldedude on June 19, 2022 5:22 pm
    Interesting. Still absolutely no violent acts. No Treason, No insurrection. No rioting. To bring those up is laughable. Especially when the "president" doesn't say a fukking word about federal judge being murdered, and SCOTUS and their families being threatened with murder or extreme bodily harm.

    What would you say if that was Ginsburg or Sotomayor was being threatened? Would your story change? Would it change if planned parenthood was being firebombed? Your two-faced answers hold no credence.

    After the mid years, maybe that doddering fool that molests his own daughter will be held for what he did.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 5:32 pm
    What federal judge was murdered? Are you referring the RETIRED judge in Wisconsin who was killed by a guy who had a list of targets which included the Democratic governors of Wisconsin and Michigan and Mitch McConnell.

    Last I read, the killer is still alive (he attempted suicide). The worst thing a president or any politician could do is weigh in and give the defense an argument of a "poisoned" jury pool.


  17. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 5:49 pm
    OD,
    I am guessing that you are not watching the hearings or have read or heard any news related the January 6th assault on the Capitol. There is no other explanation for your belief that there was "absolutely no violent acts. No Treason, No insurrection. No rioting."

    Robert Palmer, 54, was handed a 63-month sentence after he pleaded guilty in October to attacking police officers during the riot.

    “Your honor. I’m really really ashamed of what I did,” he told US District Judge Tanya Chutkan through sobs on Friday.

    Federal prosecutors said Palmer, of Largo Florida, was on the “front lines” of the mob attempting to disrupt the certification of Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election. Palmer threw a wooden plank at cops before spraying a fire extinguisher that he then also hurled.



    nypost.com


  18. by Ponderer on June 19, 2022 6:27 pm

    "You mean like speaking against threatening SCOTUS members and their families (including children) with death or severe bodily harm? Or murdering federal judges? Or attempting to murder SCOTUS judges?" -od

    I'll see your three apple seeds and raise you a full congressional hearing's worth of oranges.

    "[Well... other people have done bad stuff too! And... well... all kinds of other irrelevant stuff to change the subject with!]" is really a pathetically lame argument, od.

    I am not surprised though that you are absolutely incapable of actually defending any of the evidence that has been brought to light about his and his lackeys' actions on, before, and after January sixth. So don't feel bad that you've got nothing more to argue with than any other Trump supporter does. I don't hold it against you.


  19. by Ponderer on June 19, 2022 6:29 pm

    (Now comes the outrage at just how little I, as a libtard anti-American, care about the issues he used to try to obfuscate the topic with............)


  20. by oldedude on June 19, 2022 7:09 pm
    Actually, What I see is a leftist initial attempt to overthrow the government and usurping the three branches of our government. And the "president" is complicit, along with the little nancy. Except this is your marxist understanding of how to take over the US. I actually believe in the US Constitution, which you call "humor." You believe in the rule of the mob, when it suits you. Like burning police precinct, potentially with people in them. You don't have any problems with US senators being shot with intent to murder. You've always pawned them off as "some whacko" except this was a burny supporter like yourself.

    "I am not surprised though that you are absolutely incapable of actually defending any of the evidence that has been brought to light about his and his lackeys' actions on, before, and after January sixth. So don't feel bad that you've got nothing more to argue with than any other Trump supporter does. I don't hold it against you. "

    Had you paid the least bit of attention and gotten out of your paranoid illusion of life, you might have remembered that from the onset, I DID NOT support what happened inside that building. I did support the peaceful protests that were sanctioned in the streets of DC.
    I also know the only person murdered was an unarmed woman. Had that been a minority sheep, you would have been raging in your usual delusional state about how evil the police are.


  21. by Donna on June 19, 2022 10:41 pm
    I really missed your unhinged rants "olde dude". It was getting dull here. Hts's shtick passed its shelf life a while back. In fact I was thinking of taking a break before you showed up.


  22. by Donna on June 19, 2022 10:41 pm
    I really missed your unhinged rants "olde dude". It was getting dull here. Hts's shtick passed its shelf life a while back. In fact I was thinking of taking a break before you showed up.


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