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Zelensky rages at Biden for leaving the country 'alone'
By HatetheSwamp
February 25, 2022 10:35 am
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It's incomprehensible to me that any honest, thinking person could support what the Roaring Bear from Delaware has done to the people of Ukraine.


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  1. by Curt_Anderson on February 25, 2022 10:46 am
    A week ago Ukrainian President Zelinsky was complaining that Biden suggested a Russian attack was imminent.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 10:55 am

    Do tell.


  3. by Donna on February 25, 2022 3:05 pm
    Ironically, it's democracy that's preventing the free world from getting Ukrainians the help they so desperately need right now.

    I just learned that the sanctions that will be enacted against Russia aren't likely to dissuade Putin. There are much tougher sanctions that could be enacted, but they've been shelved because they would cause too much economic pain for the NATO countries, which would jeopardize the re-election chances of the politicians who are in power.

    So sorry, Ukrainians. Despite President Zelensky's desperate pleas for help, you're going to have to fight the Russian military with the equipment you already have, whatever NATO can sneak in, and homemade Molotov cocktails.

    I wish the NATO leaders would do more, but sadly that's the situation.




  4. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 3:23 pm

    Don't you just wish we'd do more?


  5. by Curt_Anderson on February 25, 2022 4:02 pm
    "Do more"? Like what specifically?

    HtS, you are very good at complaining about Biden, usually with ad hominem insults. Like other Republicans you make vague comments about his supposed weakness without ever saying what you'd do instead. Yet you voted for Donald Trump who said his approach would be to ask Putin as a buddy, "do me a favor: get out of Ukraine". I guess that qualifies as strength in your book.

    I've asked this before and you danced around without ever answering. I know you said that Biden should have threatened to go to war, but you avoided saying that Biden should back up that threat by actually committing our soldiers to fight a war in the Ukraine.

    Would you have Biden send American soldiers into a ground war against Russia? Maybe start a nuclear war?


  6. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 4:22 pm

    I was very specific only yesterday, so don't try that. You scoffed.

    I'd commit the Air Force and Navy and I'd secure Ukrainian air space. Remember that? I'd tell Vlad that if any member of our military were even injured by his forces, I'd consider that his declaration of war against America. Ring an effin bell?

    I'd have acted sooner. I'd have given Ukraine a $billion in weaponry and have trained...be training...the military. Hmmmm?

    You suggested that I have Alzheimers. Bro! Seems you're a stage or two ahead of me.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on February 25, 2022 4:36 pm
    No, you did not say that. You said, "[Biden] should be threatening the use of the US Navy and Air Force..." Your supposition apparently being that Putin would think twice because he cares about the carnage, the deaths of his own soldiers and citizens and the other costs of war.

    But now, in the post above, you are saying the US should go against Russia basically alone. Is that your final position?


  8. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 4:44 pm

    Re: Would you have Biden send American soldiers into a ground war against Russia? Maybe start a nuclear war?

    At this point, anything manly, courageous, assertive, forceful Joe'd try may very well create a nuclear conflict.

    Honestly, as I've said, from the moment Joe advertised his weakness and dead brain through the Afghanistan debacle, he constrained us, as a nation, to suffer at the hands of the world's tyrants.

    Joe's the pu$$y that all the bullies depants in gym class when the teacher's not looking. He's the sad old wino on the street who gets mugged three times a week...as are we all, as long as he is President.

    When this comes up, I always make the same point: our problems began when you idiots decided that anyone-but-Trump decscended to the point you'd elect that doddering old fool.

    What will be left of us by the time the next President is inaugurated?, I don't even want to think about it.

    But, thanks.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2022 3:39 am

    I'll refine the "Joe's the pu$$y" analogy to Joe's the retarded kid that all the bullies depants in gym class when the teacher's not looking.

    Joe's problem is one of fitness more than character. He lacks character for sure but, at this point, his compelling flaw is his seriously impaired mental health.


  10. by islander on February 26, 2022 5:25 am

    “Today, as we watch freedom and liberty under attack abroad, I'm here to fulfill my responsibilities under the Constitution, to preserve freedom and liberty here in the United States of America,” Biden said.

    This week was historic precisely because it brought into the open the degree to which freedom and liberty are, in fact, under attack, as Russian president Vladimir Putin launched a war of aggression against neighboring Ukraine.

    Fighting in Ukraine is approaching Kyiv, where the government has armed its civilians to defend the city. Washington Post military reporter Dan Lamothe tweeted information from a senior defense official, who said that Russia is getting more resistance than it expected and that it has not managed to establish air superiority over Ukraine. The U.S. believes that Russia has launched more than 200 missiles at Ukraine, aimed at military sites but hitting civilian areas as well. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees said today that 150,000 Ukrainians have been displaced since Russia invaded.

    Putin today called for Ukrainians to overthrow their own government and negotiate peace with him.

    Putin needed a quick victory in Ukraine, and the heroic resistance of the Ukrainians has made that impossible, buying time for pressure against him to build. Last night, 1800 Russians were arrested for protesting the war at rallies around the country; prominent Russians, including the children of leading businessmen and lawmakers, are speaking up against the invasion.

    When Facebook fact-checked Russian state media accounts and put warning labels on them, the Kremlin limited Russians’ access to the site, where they were sharing their anger at Putin’s war. Apparently, ill-trained Russian conscripts are shocked to be on the front lines in Ukraine—Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be used there.

    Tonight Meta, the parent company of Facebook, banned Russian state media from running ads or raising money on Meta platforms anywhere in the world. While the ban apparently does not eliminate third-party ads, it does show which way the wind is blowing.

    Today, members of the European Union and Britain froze the European assets of Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. The U.S. also sanctioned Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov, as well as Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, which is intended “to attract capital into the Russian economy in high-growth sectors,” according to White House press secretary Jen Psaki. The Russian Ministry of Defense was hacked and taken down, and the personal information of its employees was leaked; the hacker group Anonymous claimed credit.

    For the first time in its history, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) activated its rapid response troops that can deploy quickly in case Russian troops cross the borders of NATO countries.

    Putin is rapidly becoming isolated. Russia vetoed a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning the invasion and calling for an immediate end to hostilities and the withdrawal of Russia’s troops from Ukraine, but it was notable that China, India, and the United Arab Emirates abstained rather than vote. Also today, President Milos Zeman of Czechia and Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, both of whom have been supporters of Putin, came out strongly against the invasion. So did Romania and Bulgaria. Kazakhstan has refused to send troops to Russia.

    The Ukraine resistance has given rise to the Ghost of Kyiv, a fighter pilot who may or may not be real, and who may or may not be a woman, and who has shot down six Russian planes. Such a superhuman legend symbolizes Ukraine’s people this terrible week."*

    *H.C.R.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2022 6:07 am

    I am absolutely convinced that, if the Roaring Bear from Delaware had done what pb suggests, i.e., equip Ukraine with a $billion in weaponry and, ahead of time, trained its military, Putin's troops would already have retreated in shame...and Putin would probably already have even toppled by his political opponents in Moscow.


  12. by islander on February 26, 2022 7:22 am

    "Last night NATO activated, for the first time in its history, the NATO Response Force. The US, as part of NATO, has put around 12,000 troops on heightened alert, and has deployed some 7-8,000 troops already, including the famed 3d Infantry Division (Rock of the Marne, motherfuckers, Dogface Soldier here), 82nd Airborne, and 2nd Cavalry Regiment. Additionally, a number of F35s and Apache helicopter are moving out.

    This is going to raise questions or prompt discussions. You may see misinformation, and you certainly will see idiots talking out of their ass. No, we are not at war with Russia and no, we are not sending them into Ukraine (yet).

    1.) The US President is not violating the War Powers act because no war has been declared, no troops are being sent into combat, this is not an "Operation Other Than War", and the President does not need Congress's permission to send US troops to friendly nations. Looking at you, Mike Lee from Utah.

    2.) US troops are potentially going to be (if not already) deployed to places like Poland and Romania. Some elements have already been there for months. Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland share a common border with Russian stooge and "Ukraine Invasion Enabler" Belarus. Poland, Slovakia, and Romania share a common border with Ukraine.

    3.) Ukraine is not a member of NATO--this whole thing started, in part, because Ukraine had signaled that it wanted to join NATO. Part of the criteria for joining NATO involves "a commitment to democratic civil-military relations and institutional structures" and there was some brouhaha about Ukraine's rampant political corruption, which is the formal reason NATO had not allowed Ukraine to join. Informally, NATO also feared that Russia would flip its shit, and so here we are. Ukraine began the official process in 2008, but it was put on hold in 2010 when its president backed out. Ukraine reinitiated the process after the 2014 annexation of Crimea (part of Ukraine) by Russia.

    4.) NATO was created expressly for the purpose of defending Europe against Russia. Its members include former Soviet "republics" and Warsaw Pact members. This situation right here is exactly why NATO was created, and the US as part of NATO is obligated to participate.

    5.) Russia's "claim" that a lot of pro-Putin/pro-Russia Rube-publicans are echoing (because they hate freedom and Joe Biden so much) is that the US lied about expanding NATO eastward toward Russia. Former Soviet republics/satellites/clients such as Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia have joined NATO, and Russia is mad AF. Ukraine continuing to make progress on its application process was one of the final straws for Russia.

    6.) No NATO member has declared war on Russia. Yet.

    7.) Russian troops have officially begun the process of besieging and attacking Ukraine capital of Kyiv. There's a story going around that some US official asked Ukraine's president Zelenskyy to please evacuate. The president said "The fight is here. I need ammunition, not a ride." It is worth noting that if Russia manages to capture and hold Kyiv, that is not the end of Ukraine. It's also worth noting that if Russian troops enter Kyiv and begin fighting, you can expect most of Kyiv's residents to wage a nasty guerrilla war, and civilian casualties are going to mount. Russian troops may not want to be there, but they will defend themselves even if they are the aggressor. And they will not hold back.

    And finally, just because it's f*cking hilarious what a farce admitting Russia to the UN is: 8.) Russia vetoed a UN Security Council motion that would have condemned the country’s invasion of Ukraine. Noteworthy: UAE and India abstained from voting."


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