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Pete Hegseth, Trump's pick for defense secretary, was investigated for alleged sexual assault in 2017
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Comments on "Trump's cabinet picks remind me of an old western in which a corrupt cattle baron...":
by Indy! on November 15, 2024 3:51 pm
Whatever happened to the thing with Gaetz adopting his gay lover he refers to as his "son"? Did they ever get to the bottom of that crime?
by Curt_Anderson on November 15, 2024 4:34 pm Good question. His "son" Nestor must be 23 years old now. One wag asked, "is it fair to call Matt Gaetz an empty Nestor?"
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 9:58 am
More likely he was filling Nestor, but still a good one. 👍
by Donna on November 16, 2024 10:20 am
Trump's pushing for a Senate recess so that he can foist his picks on America, but the Dems still have control of the Senate. The question is, when the MAGA Party has control of the Senate, will there be enough dissenting votes among their ranks to block any of his picks? I'm not counting on it, because collectively they've shown time and time again that they're a party of cowards who would sell out our party to fascists to save their cushy jobs.
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 10:37 am
The big question is the same it's been since the Clinton triangulation years... have the Ds finally learned their lesson and maybe start listening to the progressive BASE?
by Donna on November 16, 2024 11:06 am
What's your most important progressive policy initiative that you think the Dems dropped the ball on?
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 11:27 am
Wealth inequality is always a big one. Israel. Immigration. Drug policy. Ukraine. Roe, reducing the size of the military. They did nothing on those while over emphasizing things that don't bring out the vote... "saving democracy" which means absolutely nothing to the people who are not full time members of either the R or D cults. Trans rights which is a third rail issue only effecting about 1% of the population (sorry - but true).
by Curt_Anderson on November 16, 2024 11:43 am"Trump's pushing for a Senate recess so that he can foist his picks on America, but the Dems still have control of the Senate." ---Donna
Donna,
Congress gets sworn in before the president by about two and a half weeks. So as of January 3rd it will a Republican controlled Senate. Trump will be sworn in on January 20th. That is unless we can storm the Capitol and disrupt the proceedings of the electoral vote count.
by Donna on November 16, 2024 11:44 am
Being that Republican lawmakers vote on every piece of legislation, what could the Dems do to make wealth more equal?
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 12:02 pm
Use the power the Constitution gives them. You know - like the Republicans do when they are in office. This is the whole crux of the issue - the Ds always bring a spoon to a gun fight. They don't push back - they "resist" being pushed when SOMETIMES means things move SLOWER to the right - but they still always move to the right. Biden was president. He could have just said "I'm not signing anything until you raise (or better yet - ELIMINATE) the tax cap on Social Security." BOOM! Sometimes it really is that simple.
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 12:02 pm
*which*
by Donna on November 16, 2024 12:10 pm
"I'm not signing anything until you raise (or better yet - ELIMINATE) the tax cap on Social Security." BOOM! Sometimes it really is that simple. - Indy
LOL! MAGA lawmakers would go. "Okay!"
by Ponderer on November 16, 2024 12:21 pm
This is looking to be a deranged lunatic's fever dream of a cabinet he's amassing. Not an uncorrupt, Constitution-respecting, qualified, or competent person in the lot. They will destroy all they touch.
How much is Putin paying him to do
all this do you think...?
"How about... five hundred...
billion ... dollars...?"
by Donna on November 16, 2024 1:17 pm
Rhe Democrats' gwneral strategy seems to be to use Trump's playbook and tie up all of what he hopes to enact in court.
Btw, to clarify what I said in my previous post, when I said that MAGA lawmakers would say, "Okay!", I meant "Okay Biden, then don't sign anything!", not "Okay, we'll agree to raise or eliminate the SS pay-in cap".
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 1:23 pm
That means everything - no military budget, no paychecks for MAGAts (or Ds) refusing to cooperate (and you can bet the house PLENTY of Ds would be crying foul) - but if they're okay with it? So am I.
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 1:24 pmby Ponderer on November 16, 2024 12:21 pm
This is looking to be a deranged lunatic's fever dream of a cabinet he's amassing. Not an uncorrupt, Constitution-respecting, qualified, or competent person in the lot. They will destroy all they touch.
True. And the Ds - as always - will stand by and watch.
by Ponderer on November 16, 2024 1:28 pm
Please, Indy!. Please elaborate at great length on what the Democrats should do about the cabinet picks that Trump makes. Draw lots for who's gonna be the hitman...?
by Indy! on November 16, 2024 1:36 pm
Well even though that wasn't the original point in this discussion - I'll answer anyway...
They might try fighting them for once.
And Pondy? The longer you (and Donna) accept total, utter and complete capitulation - the longer it will happen. There's this strategy the Rs use all the time that the Ds almost never use - the filibuster. Filibuster EVERYTHING the same way the Rs did to Obama (not that he cared - he was GOP anyway).
by Ponderer on November 16, 2024 1:54 pm
"They might try fighting them for once." -Indy!
Like... with firearms...? Or are you suggesting hand to hand combat?
Fight them with what , Indy!?
by Donna on November 16, 2024 2:04 pm
The reason that Biden has never made a threat like that, Indy, is because it's a stupid idea. MAGA lawmakers know that Biden would never effectively shut down the federal government for any reason let alone for a Social Security fix. And if Biden were to go through with that, it would just make him look like a crazy man, and all the blame fir the effectuve shutdown would be on Biden and the Dems.
Do you have an idea that you've actually thought through?
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 3:55 am
Oh, your unfounded woke sanctimony! Thanks, gang!
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 10:16 am
"Trump's pushing for a Senate recess so that he can foist his picks on America, but the Dems still have control of the Senate."
Mike Johnson was interviewed by Shannon Bream this morning. He said that, unless Senate Dems play silly games with Trump's nominees, there will be no recess appointments. It's up to the SwampDems.
by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2024 11:57 am HtS,
If Mike Johnson said that, it makes no sense. It's the Republicans who will control the Senate when Trump is president. They will approve or disapprove Trump's cabinet picks. The Democrats don't have a vote in it. The Dems can only express their disapproval.
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 12:57 pm
Curt,
He is in the conversation, ain't?
He said that, in order for the Senate to shut down, according to congressional rules, the House would have to agree also go out of session. As Speaker of the House, he should know.
At any rate, he was definite. Senate GOPs won't consider anything hinky unless the Dems play silly games. If they do, the GOPs'll let Trump have his way with Congress.
I wouldn't want to be a DC Dem in the post Mckneepads era. But, y'nes, as OD'd say, aksed for it by running that "feckless dementia-ridden" Doddering Old Fool and then Let's Go Brandoning him.
by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2024 1:26 pm That still makes no sense. The GOP has plans to shut down the Senate unless the Democrats "play games"?! That would be Republican playing games. If the Republicans, who have majorities in both chambers, want to abdicate their constitutional role of "advise and consent", I don't see how Democrats can prevent it.
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 1:49 pm
I dunno.
The Senate rules are too complex for a good ole boy like pb too master. Apparently, there are things Dem can do to throw a spanner in the works.
Monitoring the right-wing media as I do, it seems to me that at least the Gaetz nomination is in trouble... if the Dems let the GOPs do their own thing. H€ck even Oklahoma's Markwayne Mullin is chompin at the bit to vote Gaetz down. But, if the Dems get coy? Oy freakin friggin EFFINvey! Apparently, the GOPs are willing to go to the mattresses.
by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2024 2:16 pm HtS,
It's not complicated. 51 votes are needed to confirm a member of the Cabinet. In the case of a 50-50 tie, the Vice President, in this case JD Vance, casts the deciding vote.
If any of Trump's nominees are rejected, it's because of the 53 Republicans. It makes no sense to blame the 47 Democrats in the Senate.
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 2:26 pm
The Senate has the filibuster. I think the filibuster is no longer applicable to judicial nominations but it is for other nominations. If ole pb's correct, and ChuckYou Schumer chooses to filibuster injudiciously, there GOPs could use the, as George W says, nucular option.
by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2024 3:57 pm In 2013 the Senate approved change to filibuster rule after repeated Republican blocks. The rule change means presidential nominees require only a simple majority to proceed to Senate confirmation.
I have no explanation for what Mike Johnson said about Democrats "playing games" other than he was simply bamboozling gullible FOX News viewers. theguardian.com
by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2024 4:10 pm
Fortunately, you're rare among Fox viewers. You are neither gullible nor bamboozable.
by Indy! on November 17, 2024 4:59 pm
These two posts are exactly why I gave up on the Ds - because they ALL think like this...
by Ponderer on November 16, 2024 1:54 pm
"They might try fighting them for once." -Indy!
Like... with firearms...? Or are you suggesting hand to hand combat?
Fight them with what, Indy!?
The rules of Congress. You know - like the GOP does to the Ds.
by Donna on November 16, 2024 2:04 pm
The reason that Biden has never made a threat like that, Indy, is because it's a stupid idea. MAGA lawmakers know that Biden would never effectively shut down the federal government for any reason let alone for a Social Security fix. And if Biden were to go through with that, it would just make him look like a crazy man, and all the blame fir the effectuve shutdown would be on Biden and the Dems.
Do you have an idea that you've actually thought through?
Yes, because if there is anything the Rs know - it's that the Ds are a bunch of pussies afraid to make waves like THEY do. Ds bring a spoon to a gunfight EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Has nothing to do with the SSI fix - that is a sidebar to this argument.
And yes, I have thought this thru - you obviously have not. 🙄
by Indy! on November 17, 2024 5:03 pm
For those who are not aware - our government is based on a system of checks and balances so no one party or person can control everything. The Ds need to start using those checks and balances exactly the way the Rs do - only take it a step FURTHER if you even want anything good to happen in your lifetimes. Start by not accepting failure the way ALL OF YOU do everytime the Ds pretend they can't do anything. They can ALWAYS do something. They CHOOSE not to.
Because they are complicit - but that's another argument for another day.
by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2024 9:40 pm Indy,
Our system does not prevent one political party from controlling everything. Sometimes one party or the other does control everything.
The system of checks and balances refers to the division of power between the three branches of the U.S. government—legislative, executive and judicial. It can also refer to the balance between the House, Senate and the President. You could also extend that to refer to balance between state and federal powers.
It's not about the "balance" between Republicans and Democrats. In fact, they are hardly ever balanced. As a matter of fact the Founders didn't seem to envision political parties and they certainly didn't mention them in the Constitution.
by Indy! on November 18, 2024 12:10 am
Like all things Constitutional, it goes beyond the literal words on the paper. Unless - of course - this is your way of telling us you have become a strict Constitutionalist in the wingnutty GOP vein. But either or - the point still stands. There have always been ways for the Ds to impede the GOP’s incessant march towards insanity, the Ds have simply CHOSE not to use them.
by meagain on November 18, 2024 10:01 am
The checks and balances in your system are dependent on a non-partisan Supreme Court. It has been a very long time since that has been the position. It has been an arm of the Republican Party for decades ow and I don't know when it was ever non-political.
It does only consider words as a rule; rarely intent unless intent favours its political bias. Words can be manipulated and distorted; Interpreted in the way that favours the desired conclusion.
by Indy! on November 18, 2024 10:04 am
I will give you just one example where that is not true - the filibuster. The Supreme Clowns have absolutely no control over that. Let's make it two - the presidential veto. They have no control over that either. But keep reminding us how little you actually know about American politics - I enjoy watching your stumbles.
by HatetheSwamp on November 18, 2024 11:30 am
meagain,
I'm with Indy on this one. I appreciate and enjoy your participation on issues of American government but, our Constitutional Republic and your parliamentary democracy are different in many ways.
Incidentally, our Supreme Court, since the three Trump Justices came on board has the scope of its power by elevating the Tenth Amendment and by granting the legislative branch authority over the bureaucracy.
by meagain on November 19, 2024 9:19 am
You both jump too fast. The Supreme Court deals with Court Actions, not the instances cited. If either of them is ever challenged in Court on Constitutional grounds, then the Court will decide.
Judicial review is the deciding factor in anything related to the Constitution.
by HatetheSwamp on November 19, 2024 9:32 am
Bull$#!t.
You really need to take a 5th grade US Social Studies course.
by Indy! on November 19, 2024 1:42 pm
Meagain... you don't even know what page we're on here. 😂
by meagain on November 19, 2024 2:41 pm I have taken postgraduate level studies on comparative Constitutions, pb. 5th. grade seems to be where you stopped. What I posted is accurate.
by Indy! on November 19, 2024 3:05 pm
Accurate - but also totally irrelevant to the discussion.
by Donna on November 20, 2024 6:37 am
If anyone ever had any doubts about Trump and his henchmen being facists, if they're paying attention, they should no longer hold any of those doubts.
JD Vance, Trump jr, and Steve Bannon endorsed a book by Jack Prosobiec called "Unhumans" which praises Francisco Franco's and Augusto Pinochet's manner of ridding their countries of "communists", which was by torture and execution. Btw, with the recent SC ruling, Trump can now legally order political executions with complete immunity.
Sometimes you'll hear MAGAs call liberals "cultural Marxists". They look at us the same way Franco and Pinochet viewed communists: vermin that need to be destroyed in order to save the country.
It CAN happen here.
by HatetheSwamp on November 20, 2024 7:08 am
"Btw, with the recent SC ruling, Trump can now legally order political executions with complete immunity."
You, Donna, are freakin friggin EFFININSANE!
These four years are going to be the most entertaining of pb's looooooooong life... and, you don't even charge!
Thanksaton!
by Donna on November 20, 2024 7:22 am
You're sick in the head.
by Indy! on November 20, 2024 9:47 am
All Trumpers are sick in the head.
by oldedude on November 20, 2024 9:13 pm Curt- What he isn't getting are people that are beholden to the swamp. The McCains are earning their money every time we go to war. Obviously, everyone on this site (minus Lead and I) don't think that's a good idea to run our country.
You, are very supportive of the swamp. Of the wealthy, "military- industrial complex" going from having thousands to millions to multi millions sucked from the arse of taxpayers to make their decisions. As much as indy has to say about this, he's now a two-faced little bitch. He now supports the use of the Military-industrial complex by hating trumpster, and loving pedojoe and kammy and her cuck.
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