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Trump is likely to be convicted of a crime he has not yet committed
By Curt_Anderson
October 25, 2023 10:37 am
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Here is something that Alan Dershowitz and Trump supporting legal pundits are not telling you.

A proffer is a meeting between a criminal defendant or suspect and the government that usually takes place at the local U.S. Attorney’s Office rather than in court. At the proffer, a defendant is represented by counsel and the government is represented by the federal prosecutor along with the investigating agents. The meeting is typically covered by a limited immunity agreement where the purpose is for the defendant to share with the government all verbal, written, or electronic information, such as emails, statements, documents, videos, or records that may be of use to the government.

Federal and Georgia prosecutors have obtained proffer agreements from five defendants in the two election interference cases. Mark Meadows, Sidney, Powell, Jenna Ellis, Scott Hall and Kenneth Chesebro have all provided evidence which undoubtedly will be used against the other defendants including Donald Trump. These other defendant don’t know what was said.

Trump’s lawyers for very good reason have done everything they can to keep Trump off the witness stand. They know as soon as Trump is questioned by prosecutors he is likely to perjure himself. As soon as Trump lies, prosecutors will have testimony and evidence not to mention witnesses to refute his lies.

If Trump is convicted in either or both of the election interference cases, as many legal experts believe is likely to happen, he is sure to appeal and drag out the judicial system process. An appeal isn’t granted because the defendant disagrees with the court’s decision. An appeal is granted because there is demonstrable evidence of a judicial technical error.

A conviction of perjury is a different matter. Perjury, and Trump is likely to perjure himself several times, is cut and dried. Convicted perjurers are sent to prison.

As we were reminded during the Watergate era, “it’s not the crime it’s the cover-up”. Trump will unsuccessfully attempted to cover up his crimes with lies on the witness stand. Just as the truth shall set one free, lies shall send him to prison.

One caveat, Trump may not take stand which would be good legal advice. It's not so smart politically to not testify on his own behalf if he wants to convince potential supporters he's innocent or that the charges are a minor "mole hill".

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Comments on "Trump is likely to be convicted of a crime he has not yet committed":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 11:02 am

    You TDS lot can be so EFFINcute.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on October 25, 2023 11:04 am
    Thank you for your well argued and reasoned reply.


  3. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 11:22 am

    The cogency of the reply was in pointing out that you care sooooooo much about sumpthin that matters to no one who's not deranged by their hate for Trump.

    To those underanged?, it's cute. Trust me. It's EFFINcute.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on October 25, 2023 11:50 am
    A person doesn't have to hate Trump to care about criminal election interference, revealing the secrets of classified documents, tax and bank fraud, abuse of power, violating constitutional oaths and criminal conspiracies.

    Mitt Romney was right when he said the real American tragedy is that so many people don't mind and willingly accept Trump's illegal, unethical and immoral behavior.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 12:02 pm

    Curt:

    Mitt Romney was right when he said the real American tragedy is that so many people don't mind and willingly accept Trump's illegal, unethical and immoral behavior.

    Bang on, bubba. Romney is one of my favorite GOPs.

    The thing is, one can think Trump is despicable without losing their mind. Think OD and pb.


  6. by Donna on October 25, 2023 12:18 pm

    My dad was a huge Mitt Romney fan.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 12:32 pm

    I think that your dad and pb might have enjoyed a nice chat over an ice cold Diet Dr. Pepper!


  8. by Donna on October 25, 2023 12:34 pm

    "...the real American tragedy is that so many people don't mind and willingly accept Trump's illegal, unethical and immoral behavior." - Mitt

    I know I'm going off-topic, but those words reminded me of how apparently most Americans also don't mind and willingly accept that the Israeli government has killed 2,360 children ( so far ) .

    Biden has already taken heat from one senior State Dept official who resigned in protest over Biden sending even more weapons of war and other material support to the Israeli government which alteady receives anual vouchers from the US to acquire military-related material support from US MIC manufacturers.

    This will likely cause many young Americans, who've been registering 2 to 1 as Democrats vs Republicans, to withdraw their support for Biden.




  9. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 12:53 pm

    Interesting, Donna.

    If you put a thread together on this, I think it'd be widely discussed.


  10. by Donna on October 25, 2023 1:00 pm

    Thanks for your input, Hts. I'll consider it.

    You might be interested that -- and I mentioned this here months ago -- I no longer consuder myself an agnostic. I'm not classically religious, but I do meditate and pray almost daily, and I always include innocent Israelis and Palestinians in my prayers. All this carnage, especially regarding children, has really affected me.



  11. by Curt_Anderson on October 25, 2023 3:38 pm
    I wrote the above article before or at least before knowing that Trump would be on the witness stand. Apparently it took only a few minutes of Trumpian testimony and lie that was too cute by half for the judge to decide that Trump was not credible.


    A Manhattan judge briefly ordered Donald J. Trump to the witness stand on Wednesday after accusing him of breaking a gag order with critical comments that seemed aimed at a law clerk, and then fined him $10,000.

    The incident that put Mr. Trump on the stand began during a break in the proceedings on Wednesday when he expressed a criticism that is allowed under the order, calling Justice Engoron partisan. But Mr. Trump added: “with a person who’s very partisan sitting alongside him. Perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”

    From the stand, Mr. Trump, wearing a navy suit and curtailing his usual monologue, said that while he had not been speaking about the clerk, Allison Greenfield, he thought she was “maybe unfair, and I think she’s very biased against me.” (Mr. Trump said that his comments had referred not to the clerk, whom he had previously attacked, but to his former lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, a witness.) 🤨

    Mr. Trump left the stand after about three minutes. Justice Engoron said that he had not found the former president credible and levied the fine.


    NEW YORK — Donald Trump unexpectedly took the witness stand Wednesday in his civil fraud trial to face questioning from the judge about out-of-court comments in which Trump appeared to disparage the judge’s law clerk.

    Finding Trump “not credible,” the judge then fined him $10,000 for defying a gag order that bars Trump from attacking court staff, marking the second time in the past week that the judge has fined Trump for violating the gag order.
    nytimes.com
    politico.com


  12. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 4:54 pm

    Trump is despicable.


  13. by Ponderer on October 25, 2023 5:01 pm

    "Trump is despicable." -Hate

    So is Ron DeSantis, Bill.

    What distinction are you making between them...?


  14. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2023 3:56 am

    po,

    Why do you think Ron DeSantis is despicable?


  15. by Ponderer on October 26, 2023 8:11 am

    Because of the many despicable and sociopathic things he's done.

    I know you can't see that. Because it's those very despicable things he's done that you like him for. To you, doing despicable things to people or things that you don't like or are afraid of is not despicable.



  16. by Ponderer on October 26, 2023 8:12 am

    Exactly how you never thought that any of the despicable things that Trump ever did were despicable.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2023 8:21 am

    Because of the many despicable and sociopathic things he's done.

    Keehee. I thought so. Some classic po universe centering, eh? Baha baha haha ha.

    Eg.?


  18. by Ponderer on October 26, 2023 8:48 am

    No. It's exactly as I said it was. You can't recognize the egregiously despicable things he's done for the egregiously despicable things that they are. Once you decide to support someone, they apparently become infallible saints to you incapable of ever committing any bad thing ever. You will truck no condemnation towards them for anything that they ever do, for in your demented and deranged eyes, they can do no wrong.

    It was exactly the same way with you and Trump. And still is!


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