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N.Y. judge finds Trump committed fraud and sanctions his attorneys
By Curt_Anderson
September 26, 2023 7:35 pm
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(WaPo)NEW YORK — A judge overseeing a $250 million lawsuit against Donald Trump ruled the former president and his company committed fraud by inflating his net worth in business transactions, narrowing the scope of what the state’s attorney general must prove at an upcoming civil trial.

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron also ordered the cancellation of Trump business certificates and imposed sanctions on attorneys representing him, two of his adult children, two other company executives and the business for repeating arguments that failed multiple times previously and were called “borderline frivolous.”

The judge’s ruling represents a significant setback for Trump by revoking his company’s authority to do business in New York, where the Trump Organization is headquartered and where Trump has major real estate interests. It also represents a victory for Attorney General Letitia James (D), who had asked that Engoron simplify the upcoming trial by deciding in advance that fraud was broadly committed so the state would need to prove only specific illegal acts.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2023 4:01 am

    Oy vey! What a surprise! On the day the House announces the first day's witnesses in the Biden Impeachment Inquiry, more charges against Trump.

    I can't believe that you all don't HatetheSwamp! Really.

    Just a few thoughts:

    Since this from corrupt New York and it's only civil, my guess is that this'll only increase Trump's lead over the Doddering Old Fool by a point or two.

    Also, on the right, this seems to be also nearly a perfect nuthinburger. The guys on Red Eye Radio did mention it...as a joke...in their third hour.

    For my SS community, I checked out Fox and Friends First for the first time since Tucker. It was the fifth story mentioned.

    As I write this, nuthin yet on Fox Business nor Newsmax, which I also check.

    For someone like me who hates the SwampDem cult, this is a disappointment. The right-wing media seems to think that the Banana Republic story's barely worth reporting these days.

    Gang,

    It seems to me, bringing criminal charges and civil actions against Trump was the ace up the Dems' sleeve if the Former Truck Driver's frailty became the primary election issue. The Dems have played their ace up the sleeve and Trump's now all but a lock to win the GOP nomination...

    ...and, more than a year out, Trump has caught "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" and seems to be pulling away.

    Unless Dems really refine the cheating, the election may be about whether or not the GOP controls everything in DC in 025.


  2. by Ponderer on September 27, 2023 6:42 am

    There was a Facebook post that I put up years ago, just a couple months into his presidency, that I think has turned out to be rather prescient:


    Donald Trump may very well discover that the very worst possible thing that a career criminal like him could ever do is to get himself elected president.


    Had he never become president, he would still be getting away with all the crimes and fraud that he and his business had committed and have always committed as regular business. People would still be thinking that he was a billionaire. His "empire" might even be bigger by now than it is.

    Becoming president puts a pretty big target on one's back. You're going to get investigated and researched like few other people in the country ever are. And given how blatant and wanton Trump's crimes were throughout decades, and that he is psychologically incapable of ever changing his felonious ways, it was only a matter of time before his crimes came back to devour him. As they currently and justly are.

    .


  3. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2023 8:28 am

    Had he never become president, he would still be getting away with all the crimes and fraud that he and his business had committed...

    So far, po, Trump's still gotten away with everything. Bahahahahahahahahahaha baha ha!


  4. by Curt_Anderson on September 27, 2023 8:59 am
    Really, HtS, do you think Trump has been getting away with it? He has lost cases in court, he is facing more cases in court. He has been ordered by courts to pay millions of dollars to plaintiffs. He has been paying millions of dollars in legal fees. He has assured himself of going down in history not just as one of the worst, if not the worst president, but as one of the worst people ever to step foot into the political arena. He is not just James Buchanan bad, he is Aaron Burr bad.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2023 9:06 am

    Curt,

    When Trump exhausts all of his appeals in these cases, I'll happily acknowledge that he didn't get away with stuff. I despise Trump...

    ...but I can recognize TDS for what it is.


  6. by Ponderer on September 27, 2023 2:13 pm

    And now his children are even paying for his crimes too. Crimes they were born into committing. Crimes I feel at least one of them fully knew just how felonious they were, and their father was to commit them.

    I kind of pity them in a way. Not that you would understand, Bill. It has to do with empathy. But they probably grew up believing their father was a great and brilliant man... because that's what he told them he was. That the way he said to do something was certainly the best. That he had all the bases covered. That not doing things his way was for suckers. It would have been difficult for them to have not felt that way. Their father would have seen to that. At least to a certain age.

    Well, anyway. He won't live long enough to spend much time in prison. But his children will.


    A rare shot of the Trump Crime Family in
    action actually digging their own graves...


  7. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2023 2:18 pm

    po,

    Lots of fathers say that...

    ...then the kids become teenagers...and all hang breaks loose. Eh?


  8. by oldedude on September 27, 2023 5:05 pm
    Curt- I'm interested, which court cases has he lost? I don't think any of them have been decided, have they? If you could tell me which cases are done and their outcome, I would appreciate it. I don't keep up with him other than to understand the preliminary motions, and I'm pretty sure those aren't done yet, so I'm interested in which trials are actually started and/or done.


  9. by Curt_Anderson on September 27, 2023 9:14 pm
    "Curt- I'm interested, which court cases has he lost?" ---OD

    Trump's four criminal cases as of yet are undecided. He has lost a few times already in his various pre-trial motions.

    Besides the 60 court cases that Trump lost in attempting to have the 2020 election results overturned, Trump must be one of the most litigious people in US history. If he's not suing, he's being sued. Many of his cases involved people he grifted or stiffed.

    Before he became president, as the defendant, Trump lost or settled 31 contract dispute cases, 38 employment lawsuits, 2 golf club lawsuits, 12 government and tax lawsuits, 90 personal injury cases.

    Since becoming president:
    Trump Tower Assault Suit, settled

    DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds, settled.

    Trump pays out $25 million to settle Trump University lawsuit

    Trump golf club must pay $5.7 million to ex-members

    Found liable in E. Jean Carroll rape/defamation case.

    Also of note: Trump's "big lie" lawsuit against CNN dismissed by judge. Another judge dismissed Trump’s lawsuit against The New York Times over an investigation into his tax returns. He was ordered to pay The Times’s legal expenses.

    azcentral.com
    justsecurity.org
    politico.com
    money.cnn.com


  10. by oldedude on September 28, 2023 3:26 am
    So guilty of nothing of note or worth. Got it.

    And pretrial motions are nothing of note. Everyone asks for the moon and see what pans out. They're just agreeing on the rules. That's all.

    Again, this is reminiscent of what happened to Palin. Nothing more than a propaganda campaign showing he's a threat and they're scared. If he loses in the primaries, you'll see these just go away. Then they'll chickenshit the next person. and then the next. In jack-booted lockstep just like the good little germans they are.

    And just like the former good little NAZIs, they'll continue to believe in the party and refuse to believe their leadership is gassing and burning Jews, gays, "artists," and political opponents.



  11. by Ponderer on September 28, 2023 7:00 am

    Bill, I gotta tell you, olde dude is giving you a heck of a run for your money as far as defending Trump goes. Seriously, I swear that the two of you could probably do a far better job than any of the lawyers he's got have been doing so far.




  12. by Donna on September 28, 2023 7:02 am

    So are you rooting for Trump, od?


  13. by HatetheSwamp on September 28, 2023 7:11 am

    Bill, I gotta tell you, olde dude is giving you a heck of a run for your money as far as defending Trump goes.

    Translation:

    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!
    I HAVE TDS!

    Y'know, po. What OD is, is capable of grasping the objective truth about Trump.


  14. by Donna on September 28, 2023 7:20 am

    How about you, Hate. Are you rooting for Trump?


  15. by HatetheSwamp on September 28, 2023 8:22 am

    Donna,

    Apparently, my memory of what I post here is flawed.

    Perhaps I've never posted: I despise Trump. I support Ron DeSantis for President. I oppose the Biden DOJ attempt to transform our constitutional republic into a Banana Republic.

    Sorry. I thought that I'd posted those things repeatedly. But, both of my parents did die with dementia and I'm getting up there.


  16. by Indy! on September 28, 2023 9:08 am

    Da-da-da-doo-ran-ran da-da-doo-ran-ran...


  17. by oldedude on September 28, 2023 9:11 am
    So are you rooting for Trump, od?
    You need to get off the weed. and if you don't smoke weed, you need to be checked for advanced dementia.

    The issue has always been the chickenshit "trials" the dims use against political rivals. Especially when they got caught bullshitting their way through a bought and paid for conspiracy LIE that was paid for by cliton's and the DNC.

    It has nothing to do with the victims in the cases, it has to do with your little german lords you fall into lockstep with.


  18. by Indy! on September 28, 2023 9:26 am

    Not that I want to get involved - but both "sides" are doing it right now to avoid any real work governing. This is our country now - a dog and pony show.


  19. by Ponderer on September 28, 2023 2:20 pm

    "The issue has always been the chickenshit "trials" the dims use against political rivals." -olde dude

    Could you perhaps give us a concise list of the "chickenshit trials" you're talking about? And can you think of a single other political rival of the Democrats other than Trump who has fallen a helpless and innocent victim to these chickenshit trials of which you speak? I mean 'cuz if you're talking about Trump, you can go ahead and say his name.



  20. by HatetheSwamp on September 28, 2023 2:32 pm

    I hope OD knows better than to enable your TDS, po. I'm confident that he does.


  21. by Donna on September 29, 2023 5:47 am

    Graduates of Trump University are incensed that they were never taught that defrauding banks was a crucial strategy to building a real-estate empire, the grads have confirmed.

    In interviews with Trump U. alumni, the former students expressed shock and dismay that such an important entrepreneurial skill was somehow omitted from the school’s curriculum.

    “If I had learned to defraud banks, my post-Trump University career would have played out very differently,” Tracy Klugian, class of 2006, said. “As it is, I’ve gone bankrupt four times.”

    “Every time a bank asked me how much my properties were worth, I put down the correct figure,” Harland Dorrinson, class of 2007, said. “Trump University really should have taught me how important it is to just pick a big number out of thin air.”

    Carol Foyler, ’08, said that, given the school’s failure to teach the fundamentals of asset overvaluation and bank swindling, her Trump University diploma “isn’t worth the Staples printer paper it was printed on.”

    “Trump University claimed it would teach me all of Donald Trump’s real-estate secrets,” she said. “Now it seems like he kept his most important secrets secret.”

    - Andy Borowitz


  22. by HatetheSwamp on September 29, 2023 6:05 am

    Presumption of innocence, Donna. A prosecutor who CAMPAIGNED on getting Trump has gotten a New York judge to rule against Trump.

    Celebration...Kool and the Gang.

    C'mon man, gimme a break!

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