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MAGA Republicans: curses, foiled again!
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July 31, 2023 3:27 pm
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Former business partner says Hunter Biden sold ‘illusion’ of access to Joe Biden, source says
(CNN)Devon Archer told the House Oversight Committee on Monday that his former business partner, Hunter Biden, was selling the “illusion” of access to his father, according to a source familiar with the closed-door interview, the latest development in the Republican-led congressional investigations into the president’s son.

The source also reiterated that Archer provided no evidence connecting President Joe Biden to any of his son’s foreign business dealings.

Rep. Dan Goldman, a Democrat on the panel who sat through the portion of Archer’s interview where he was questioned by Republicans, also said there was a lack of evidence connecting the president to his son’s foreign dealings. Goldman said Archer told the panel that Hunter Biden did put his father on speaker phone in the presence of business partners, but that business was never discussed.

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  1. by oldedude on July 31, 2023 4:26 pm
    This was a closed hearing. Was that shiffless spouting about what was said? Oh. sorry. He was kicked out of every committee because he has a loud mouth and can't get facts straight. So I guess it was him... I heard a VERY different from the GOP participants. They said there was no illusion. That he sold the pedofamily crime family access with pedojoe at the lead.

    If you want to go with hearsay, fine. I'm going to wait until I can actually watch the information live. Or at least documents of the hearing (which won't come out. ergo, it was closed.

  2. by Curt_Anderson on July 31, 2023 5:03 pm
    OD,
    Rep. James Comer also made a public statement about Devon Archer’s testimony. You got a problem with that?

  3. by Ponderer on July 31, 2023 5:29 pm

    "Was that [U.S. representative from California Adam Schiff] spouting about what was said? Oh. sorry. He was kicked out of every committee because he has a loud mouth and can't get facts straight." -olde dude

    Actually no. He wasn't. Far from it. Not even close. Quite the opposite. Boy are you cold.

    He was kicked out of committees by the new GOP majority in the House for being a rather brilliant, entirely proficient and devastatingly effective mortal enemy of the Orange Scourge and his MAGA Republican Lemming PArty.

    You must realize, od... The right never attacks any Democrat for being bad or incompetent at their jobs. You always go after the ones who are the most successful at and dedicated to doing their jobs, fulfilling their oaths to the Constitution, and kicking your sorry asses six ways from Sunday.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on July 31, 2023 6:41 pm
    [Rep. Dan] Goldman confirmed that Archer said Hunter Biden was “selling the illusion of access to his father.” Goldman added that Hunter Biden, according to Archer, “tried to get credit for things that Mr. Archer testified Hunter had nothing to do with.”

    “When Vice President Biden went to Ukraine on his own … Hunter said, 'Well, let’s tell them that I have no idea what is going to happen, but I can take credit for the fact that he is going.' He was not involved in any of that at all, but he was trying to get credit with Burisma on behalf of actions that his father took that were completely unrelated,” Goldman added.
    politico.com

  5. by oldedude on July 31, 2023 7:45 pm
    curt- 🙄 so again... You're getting ONE side, and believing everything you ever heard is true. You (et al) don't bother to check any other source. I find that disconcerting.

    I'm going to remind you what YOU said early in this investigation. You said that a "company" has board members that have juice, that have influence in their business. I agreed with that. And it proves us both true. For example.

    The Don of the Martellaro crime family is very interested in getting a "business" job done. Maybe hookers, maybe cocaine, maybe running numbers. It doesn't matter.
    He sends a capo (underling in this case) in to make sure everyone is "supportive."
    The Capo is having some "issues" with the local "board."
    The Capo phones the Don, "Don Martellaro, we're having some issues with me being here. We're having a meeting at 10:00 tomorrow. Can I call you just to prove to them I have your ear.
    "That sounds like a good idea. What do you want me to do?"
    "Follow my lead, Don Martellaro, please." "Of course, says the Don.
    The Capo goes to the meeting and has some "issues" with the negotiations."
    The Capo says, "Hold for a minute" in the middle of the talk.
    Who appears on the phone? The Don. Ten minutes after the phone call (talking about the weather), the issue is done.

    WTF do you think that happened. Are you too naive to think that the person who THEY need to help them didn't just threaten them?
    If so, I wish I had lived such an Ozzi and Harriet existence. Because if that's what you think, your lily-white existence is showing through. I would never ask you to broker any sort of agreement or settlement at all. There is no-one more naive than you.

    Remember, in 2015, Burisma ASKED the obomber administration to "help" them with a "problem." The problem of a crooked (admittedly) investigator getting ready to "investigate" Burisma. If the investigation didn't happen (pedojoe did his job), or did is immaterial. He went to Ukraine, and according to HIS story, he threatened the Ukraine government to get rid of the investigator. They did that. pedojoe won. He came through for the criminals. Flip side is that Burisma did not get investigated. AND, as promised, NATO and the EU followed pedojoe lock, stock, and barrel.

  6. by HatetheSwamp on July 31, 2023 10:45 pm

    Retweeted by that gay Guy:

    As others have pointed out, the progression is perfect.

    1. Joe has never spoken to his son about his business dealings
    2. Joe has never spoken to Hunter's business partners
    3. We all have known all along that Joe spoke to his son's business partners.. duh.

    Joe is so toast.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on July 31, 2023 11:06 pm

    Jonathan Turley: "Breathtaking."

     View Video

  8. by HatetheSwamp on July 31, 2023 11:23 pm

    James Comer, "Bombshell."

     View Video

  9. by Ponderer on August 1, 2023 6:46 am

    Jonathan Turley: "We're looking at one of the most significant corruption scandals in our history. And I've been a critic of influence peddling for decades. I've never seen anything like the scope of this scandal."


    Wow. Well he's certainly an expert at destroying his own credibility right off the bat. That's for sure.

    He appears to be quite old enough to remember and have been conscious of the Trump administration I would think. That overgrown orange homunculus was already "influence peddling" tens of millions of dollars outta people at his inauguration for fucksake. Turley's gotta know about that.

    The former president owns an entire hotel near the White House where he peddled his influence. Marks were willingly overcharged for rooms they sometimes never even occupied to gain his influence. Turley's gotta know about that.

    His incompetent son in law, a disgraced slumlord whose father was serving time for tax evasion and "influence peddling" and was later pardoned for it by Trump along with many other criminals, literally had nothing to peddle to the Saudis but his influence with his father in law. There was literally no legitimate reason that the Saudis would just give Jared Kushner TWO BILLION DOLLARS other than for how he was connected to Trump and his position in the administration. Turley has got to know about that.

    If the coffee would hurry up and kick in I could list many more, but that's a good sampling.


    But according to Jonathan Turley, unsubstantiated attestation from people not even under oath about phone calls that may or may not have happened is bigger "in scope" than all of Trump's corruption scandals combined apparently.

    By his own hyperbolic and spun words, Turley's credibility is zero.






    nytimes.com
    npr.org

  10. by oldedude on August 1, 2023 6:48 am
    So we digressed into whataboutisms yet again.🙄

  11. by HatetheSwamp on August 1, 2023 7:01 am

    You just have to laugh...at po especially. Trump clearly is nestled tightly in po's brain, such as it is.

    Baha baha bahahahahahahahahahaha baha.

  12. by Donna on August 1, 2023 7:18 am

    I remember when Mr. Turley was a regular on MSNBC. Now, an ardent Trump apologist, Mr. Turley has apparently undergone a change of... heart? Hmm. Something changed. You have to wonder if this self-described expert on influence peddling was influence-peddled himself.



  13. by Ponderer on August 1, 2023 7:24 am

    "So we digressed into whataboutisms yet again." -olde dude

    od, you and your entire political party exist on nothing BUT whataboutism.

    It's literally your only response to actual crimes that any MAGA Republican ever commits! The more slam-dunk a case is against Trump or any MAGA Republican, the more you ignore all the facts about it and ratchet up the whataboutisms. The whole Hunter's Laptop gobbledygook is in essence nothing but whataboutism. I doubt that there is a single thread in this entire forum with more than ten posts where either you or Hate haven't engaged in whataboutism.

    So please... PLEASE forgive my incursion into your private monopoly. I know it's a cheap, feeble and lame way to debate any issue, but again, I think I must have drunk decaf this morning.

    Please go about indulging your penchant for whataboutism, secure in the knowledge that I shall endeavor to abstain from appropriating your wholly owned debating tactic any further.


  14. by Indy! on August 1, 2023 11:15 am

    Well again... Ds are Rs... Rs are Ds... I hope that is finally getting through to at least one or two of you. Remember Indys #1 Rule of Politics?

    They're all dirty. If they weren't they'd have real jobs like the rest of us.

  15. by HatetheSwamp on August 1, 2023 12:10 pm

    I remember when Mr. Turley was a regular on MSNBC. Now, an ardent Trump apologist...

    C'mon man. Gimme a break. Turley was the first person I know who predicted Trump's dead in the water over the documents...even before the indictments.

    How is his assessment of yesterday's testimony connected to Trump in any way at all!!!!!?

  16. by Donna on August 1, 2023 12:20 pm

    My wife already explained that in post #9.

  17. by oldedude on August 1, 2023 12:25 pm
    od, you and your entire political party exist on nothing BUT whataboutism.

    I actually try to stay away from them. trumpster and pedojoe are entirely different cases. They have ZERO relevancy to each other.

    The only ones the "might" are the classified documents. And I'm waiting for charges to be filed and watch as the courts do their work. Separately. And with completely different evidence.

  18. by HatetheSwamp on August 1, 2023 1:59 pm

    #9

    But according to Jonathan Turley, unsubstantiated attestation from people not even under oath about phone calls that may or may not have happened is bigger "in scope" than all of Trump's corruption scandals combined apparently.

    Turley's not referring to a single thing that is unattested. He's merely referring to the most straightforward facts Devon Archer testified to.

    Bottom line. Trump being despicable doesn't justify "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" in any way.

  19. by Curt_Anderson on August 1, 2023 6:48 pm
    Rep. Comer doesn’t share OD and HtS’s certitude:

    Republicans had hoped that Archer, who is due to start a year-and-a-day prison sentence after being convicted of conspiring to defraud a Native American tribe in 2019, would confirm an as-yet uncorroborated allegation made by an alleged FBI informant who claimed that the president and his son each pocketed a $5m bribe from a Ukrainian energy executive who’d also hired Hunter Biden to serve on the board of the company he’d founded, Burisma.

    Asked whether he would be able to prove the outrageous claim about the president, Mr Comer hesitated.

    Pressed further by Hannity, he finally replied: “I sure hope so. And I do believe that there’s a lot of smoke and when there’s smoke, there’s fire”.
    independent.co.uk

  20. by oldedude on August 2, 2023 2:53 am
    With that, DOJ asked the courts to move his sentencing up to the day he was supposed to testify so he couldn't appear before congress. Why do you think that would be any sort of thing DOJ might get involved in? 🤔

  21. by HatetheSwamp on August 2, 2023 3:23 am

    Curt,

    Your post is factually inaccurate.

  22. by Ponderer on August 2, 2023 6:26 am

    "Curt,

    Your post is factually inaccurate."     -Hate


    That may actually be the case. But it's only in your own private reality, Bill. So there's no reason for anyone else to accept your alternate universe. It has no bearing on this one the rest of us live in.


  23. by HatetheSwamp on August 2, 2023 4:11 pm

    No. It's truly factually inaccurate.

    The GOPs got exactly what they wanted from Archer, i.e., eyewitness testimony that Joe lied about his connection to Hunter and his business associates.

  24. by Curt_Anderson on August 3, 2023 7:40 pm
    From the transcript:
    Asked what the Bidens talked about when Joe Biden was on speaker phone, Archer responded, "Say, where are you, how's the weather, how's the fishing, how's the — whatever — but, you know, it was very, you know, casual conversations."

    Archer was also asked if then-Vice President Biden regularly "checked in on his son, who's admitted he's had issues with drugs."

    "Every day," Archer replied. But asked whether he had ever heard them discuss the "substance of Hunter Biden's business," he responded, "No."


    Archer said he was not aware of any $5 million payment to Hunter or his father from the Ukrainian official.

    Archer also told lawmakers that he was “not aware of any” wrongdoing by President Biden, the transcript shows.
    cbsnews.com
    cnn.com

  25. by oldedude on August 3, 2023 7:52 pm
    And nobody answered the elephant in the room. WHY DID THE DOJ WANT THE ARCHER SENTENCING TO HAPPEN THE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING AND DO THEY HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT LEGALLY?

    all y'all still don't get this is STILL a DOJ/FBI investigation regardless of who charged him (Read SWAMP).

    I'm really disappointed the dims haven't been more supportive of 1. Free press, free speach, etc. That was their litany for three decades, that they've now abandoned. My dad saw it before I did that the dims are nothing but a self serving POS that only cares about their own assets. And no one else. That's why they're in lockstep with the party. You're creatin's, that's all. Mindless fools that do their "master's" bidding. Prove me wrong.

  26. by oldedude on August 4, 2023 6:34 am
    sorry, Free press, free speech, etc...

    The point is they "used" to be the defenders of the first amendment and the constitution. Now, they're the destroyers of them.

  27. by oldedude on August 4, 2023 6:34 am
    sorry, Free press, free speech, etc...

    The point is they "used" to be the defenders of the first amendment and the constitution. Now, they're the destroyers of them.

  28. by Donna on August 4, 2023 7:03 am

    It would have happened much earlier if not for Archer's lawyers filing appeals to his conviction.

  29. by HatetheSwamp on August 4, 2023 8:05 am

    It's Archer's fault? Am I following you, Donna?

  30. by Donna on August 4, 2023 8:08 am

    Archer's lawyer filed the appeals.

  31. by Curt_Anderson on August 4, 2023 8:37 am
    Hunter Biden’s former business partner Devon Archer was first subpoenaed on June 12 to testify before the committee on June 16. Mr. Comer told The Washington Examiner that Mr. Archer rescheduled his appearance three times before his lawyer confirmed on July 30 that he would appear the next day. Mr. Archer then spoke to the House oversight committee in nearly five hours of closed-door testimony on July 31. Republicans and Democrats on the committee gave conflicting accounts of what Mr. Archer said.

    Mr. Trump announced on July 18 that federal prosecutors had informed him he was a target of their investigation into his efforts to stay in office, suggesting that he would soon be indicted.

  32. by Ponderer on August 5, 2023 9:20 am

    That shut 'em up perty darned quick, eh Curt?

  33. by oldedude on August 5, 2023 1:56 pm
    Sorry po, I spent the afternoon with the kids. I do have a life outside of this.

    Donna- It would have happened much earlier if not for Archer's lawyers filing appeals to his conviction.

    You destroying the constitution? You've been doing that for decades. Once you learned you couldn't win within it, you've set out to destroy it for your own utopia.

  34. by Ponderer on August 5, 2023 2:19 pm

    Trump and the MAGA Republican party wipes their asses with the Constitution. So obviously, it must be declared that the Democrats are destroying the Constitution. These simpletons are so easy to read.

    Difference being, of course, that our side has the proof and evidence that Trump and his henchmen have wiped their asses with it and it's soon to be presented in court.

    And there is no evidence that the Democrats have done anything untoward at all regarding the Constitution that can be presented anywhere but maybe Joe Rogan's show.


    I must beg your pardon, olde dude, but if you think you ever presented any here, you are wrong. I usually don't read much of your voluminous non sequitur posts, but whether I read it or not doesn't alter the fact that even if you did post it, it's wrong.

  35. by Donna on August 5, 2023 2:34 pm

    I don't recall ever "destroying the Constitution" od. I don't even know how I'd go about doing that.

    Of course a defendant has the right to appeal a conviction. My comment was to the baseless accusation that the DOJ timed the recent indictments to overshadow that other case.

  36. by oldedude on August 5, 2023 2:50 pm
    By supporting those in the government that are illegally using the law that you never fail to support.

  37. by Curt_Anderson on August 5, 2023 3:09 pm
    “…illegally using the law”. —OD

    Oxymoron.

    Apparently the scores of Trump appointed judges including presiding Judge Aileen Cannon and members of the Supreme Court disagrees with OD. None have uttered a complaint about prosecutors abusing or violating the Constitution.

  38. by Donna on August 5, 2023 3:28 pm

    All of those judges are destroying the Constitution, Curt.



  39. by oldedude on August 5, 2023 4:39 pm
    Apparently the scores of Trump appointed judges including presiding Judge Aileen Cannon and members of the Supreme Court disagrees with OD. None have uttered a complaint about prosecutors abusing or violating the Constitution.

    OMFG!. Are you really that dense? The FISC DID. I'm talking about the DOJ/FBI you continually support! The FBI Admitted wrongdoing in that case. And they haven't stopped.

    curt- you're disgusting. Any way at all you continually use to support people, especially in law enforcement that use illegal means against US citizens domestically. You don't see anything wrong with that. You continually lie, deceive, and twist what you don't know about the law in order to support your religion.

  40. by Donna on August 5, 2023 4:51 pm

    What's the FISC?

  41. by Curt_Anderson on August 5, 2023 6:07 pm
    Donna,
    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) which has nothing to do with either of the current cases against Trump.

  42. by oldedude on August 5, 2023 6:54 pm
    AND?????? You still support the lawlessness at every turn. You don't care about humans (but we already knew that).

  43. by oldedude on August 5, 2023 7:35 pm
    You are correct, although you didn't see how that sidebar happened apparently. Donna asked a question. I answered it.

    Donna- FISC are the courts that do the warrants, etc under the FISA portion of the PATRIOT act. It's technically the correct term for the courts. I've been saying FISA courts, but that's technically "wrong."

  44. by HatetheSwamp on August 6, 2023 2:30 am

    Difference being, of course, that our side has the proof and evidence that Trump and his henchmen have wiped their asses with it and it's soon to be presented in court. -po

    Good to know.

    Such as?...

  45. by Ponderer on August 6, 2023 8:32 am



    "Such as?..." -Hate


    Such as READ THEFUCKING INDICTMENT ALREADY!!!


  46. by HatetheSwamp on August 6, 2023 9:48 am

    Such as READ THEFUCKING INDICTMENT ALREADY!!!

    This is why I posted what I posted about doofuses reading primary sources instead of high-quality secondary sources. I'm pretty certain that I can't read this sort material with insight and, clearly, you can't.

    You possess less useful knowledge, having read the EFFININDICTMENT, than you did before you read it. That's obvious to me.

    It's why pb has his Legal Advisory Council.

  47. by Donna on August 6, 2023 9:53 am

    od - noted. Thanks.

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