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We're soon going to get a Snap Shot of Trump's Clout among GOPs
By HatetheSwamp
July 25, 2021 1:38 pm
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The big story, between now and Primary season 022, will be how Trump fares in his campaign to assert control over the GOPs as the GOPs retake at least the House in 022. Texas will give us a glimpse in the upcoming special election.

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  1. by Curt Anderson on July 25, 2021 2:09 pm
    The gubernatorial election in Virginia is soon too. A Trump candidate faces a Biden candidate in a general election in a purple state.

  2. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2021 2:53 pm
    The NRA hasn't endorsed Youngkin, the GOP, and the Dem is Golden boy Terry McAuliffe. If the Dems lose Gov in VA, the sky really is falling.

    From where I'm sitting, the real struggle for the moment is how well Trump will assert control over the GOP. There's a chance that the party will move on.
    wric.com

  3. by oldedude on July 25, 2021 5:54 pm
    Like most purple states, the dims only hold small, highly populated urban areas. Those actually producing goods (because the dims have murdered manufacturing jobs in their cities) are the rural areas, the "other half" of the states. Coloradans would love to get rid of denver/boulder narcissistic, elitist pricks and get back to taking care of the working class. VA dims only hold inside the beltway and Richmond. Both of those hold the highest per capita of gang members in them.
    So the dims have demanded voter harvesting, dead people voting, and a lack of control over elections.

  4. by oldedude on July 25, 2021 5:56 pm
    Lead,
    Did you see where the "gop" "candidate" got booed off stage? It was pretty funny. She's an "R" in letter only and has voted with the dims for years. Now she decides to change her stripes. Dims are falling for it, informed voters aren't.

  5. by HatetheSwamp on July 26, 2021 3:58 am
    OD,

    Good to see you here. How are you?

    We spend a lot of time in Virginia, touristing Virginia Beach and Colonial Williamsburg.

    You're right about Blue MAGA strongholds.

    It'll be interesting to see how this election shakes out. If GOPs do even fairly well in Virginia, expect Clouseau's gang to be buried under an avalanche in 022.

  6. by HatetheSwamp on July 26, 2021 4:06 am
    Lead,
    Did you see where the "gop" "candidate" got booed off stage? It was pretty funny. She's an "R" in letter only and has voted with the dims for years. Now she decides to change her stripes. Dims are falling for it, informed voters aren't.

    I saw the video of it.

    One way to describe what's going on among the GOPs is that Trump is declaring war against SwampGOPs. The people in that crowd were fully aware of that.

  7. by Curt Anderson on July 27, 2021 7:04 pm
    Donald Trump’s PAC makes last-minute ad buy for Susan Wright in District 6 congressional race
    Susan Wright’s campaign consultants are confident that she’s well ahead of state Rep. Jake Ellzey in North Texas’ District 6 runoff for Congress.

    But in advance of Tuesday’s election, Donald Trump’s Make America Great Again Action PAC has dropped a last-minute, $100,000 campaign ad buy to help secure victory for Wright, records show.

    The ad buy follows Trump’s restatement this week of his endorsement of Wright, who is running to replace her late husband, Ron Wright, who died in February after battling COVID-19 and cancer.

    The full election results are not in yet. A winner has not been called...
    dallasnews.com

  8. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2021 4:00 am
    The Trump backed candidate did lose.

    Three comments:

    1. She lost handily but it was not a rout.

    2. She was a weak candidate.

    3. TDSers should not do a victory lap celebrating the death of Trump's influence...just yet.

    Having said that, pb will be publishing a brief position paper on Trump, perhaps later today, depending on how pb's day goes.

  9. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2021 4:07 am
    Oh, sorry, forgot the link. Decent non-TDS article.
    nbcdfw.com

  10. by Curt Anderson on July 28, 2021 10:38 am
    Snap shot shows Trump's clout overrated.

    Trump claims he has good judgment. Yet between two Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum conservatives he managed to pick and back the weaker candidate.

    We learned from last night's election that a Trump endorsement---and his last minute $100,000 ad buy and robocalls---does not assure a win and the lack of a Trump endorsement is no impediment.

  11. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2021 11:06 am

    Trump claims he has good judgment. Yet between two Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum conservatives he managed to pick and back the weaker candidate.

    I think that you are seriously missing the point, Curt.

    This is not Vegas.

    Trump has no interest in picking winners. He wants to shape the GOP in his own image. He picked the candidate whom he wanted to win and tried fairly hard to get his candidate in the House.

    The fact that Trump's candidate didn't win may turn out to be significant.

    Also, I think you're still missing the point if you're thinking of Trump as a conservative...or as all of conservatism as being one an the same. I imagine that, from your perspective, so far out there on the left, we all do look the same to you, but we ain't all alike.

    Trump's candidate was a populist Trumper running against a Reagan Republican.

    There were serious ideological issues at stake in this election. And, Trump-ism lost.

  12. by Curt Anderson on July 28, 2021 11:34 am
    HtS,
    No, I don't think Trump is a conservative. That would imply that Trump had a set of principles. I don't agree with Liz Cheney's conservative principles, but she has principles.

    The candidates in the Texas contest according to local news reports were nearly identical in their political views. The difference was that one was endorsed by Trump.

  13. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2021 12:02 pm

    No, I don't think Trump is a conservative. That would imply that Trump had a set of principles. I don't agree with Liz Cheney's conservative principles, but she has principles.

    That's just insane. It's deranged.

    In my opinion to you woke, Swampcult Blue MAGAs, Liz is little more than an Uncle Tom...Aunt Tammi...Republican

  14. by Curt Anderson on July 28, 2021 6:41 pm
    Texas loss alarms Trump advisers worried about party clout
    Trump and his advisers are trying to figure out what Wright’s defeat means for them — and how to contain any damage. Her loss Tuesday night sent shockwaves through the former president’s inner circle. Many privately concede the pressure is on them to win another special election next week in Ohio, where a Trump-backed candidate is locked in a close primary.

    Advisers worry that a second embarrassing loss would raise questions about the power of Trump’s endorsement — his most prized political commodity, which candidates from Ohio to Wyoming are scrambling to earn before next year’s midterms. More broadly, losses could undermine his standing in the Republican Party, where his popularity and influence has protected Trump’s relevance even as a former president barred from his social media megaphones.

    “A loss is a loss, and for someone who touts himself as the ultimate winner, putting your thumb on the scale and then losing tarnishes that brand within the party,” said Doug Heye, a former top Republican National Committee official.
    politico.com

  15. by HatetheSwamp on July 29, 2021 3:44 am

    To be fair to Trump, even the 1927 Yankees lost a game now and then.

    Still, having watched the rallies, Trump is very serious about exerting his influence in the party between now and the end of 022.

    I'm not sure that he's ever been effective in casting other GOPs as the enemy. At the least, though, prospective opponents for the 024 nomination have to be emboldened.

  16. by Curt Anderson on July 29, 2021 7:27 am
    The difference being that the 1927 New York Yankees played every game on their schedule. They didn't pick and choose who they played. Trump only endorses candidates who are favored or have at least a reasonable chance of winning.HtS

    Trump's endorsement was thought to be a magical commodity. But if Trump has a mediocre batting average in helping his chosen candidates to win and it is not beyond normal expectations he'll be sent back down to the minors.

    I suspect that some of the more intelligent Republican politicians are looking at Trump's past endorsements to see if there is much evidence that they were worth anything.

  17. by HatetheSwamp on July 29, 2021 7:41 am

    I suspect that some of the more intelligent Republican politicians are looking at Trump's past endorsements to see if there is much evidence that they were worth anything.

    Agreed.

    The day that GOPs start distancing themselves from Trump's support would mark the beginning of the end for Trump.

  18. by Curt Anderson on July 29, 2021 7:57 am
    The former president had supported Susan Wright who was battling Jake Ellezy for the opportunity to be the Republican candidate in Texas’ 6th District. Trump had endorsed her on multiple occasions and recorded a robocall for her.

    “I think this is the only race we’ve lost together,” Trump said of himself and Republican group, Club for Growth. Realizing that he had actually admitted a loss, he corrected himself, “This is the only race we’ve … this is not a loss, again, I don’t want to claim it is a loss, this was a win. …The big thing is, we had two very good people running that were both Republicans. That was the win..”
    hillreporter.com

  19. by HatetheSwamp on July 29, 2021 11:13 am

    He don't lose gracefully but he didn't cheat like that former 18 wheeler driver currently in the White House.

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