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Ah. The glories of the objective press: Drag shows are next on hitlist for US state that is heading back to dark ages
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February 27, 2023 7:37 am
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Back to the dark ages, eh? No editorializing, there!

This is the Tennessee bill we discussed earlier.

Tennessee is on track to become not only the first US state to ban drag shows but also the latest to ban healthcare for trans youth. This is a lie. Why do the woke seem to need to abuse truth?

House Republicans passed joint anti-LGBTQ+ l5egislation yesterday which, if signed by the governor, would make Tennessee the first state to criminalise drag shows. Lie.

Plunging the southern state into the dark ages,...[bahahahahahahahahahaha]...Senate Bill 3 will prevent ‘adult-oriented businesses’ from operating within 1,000 feet of public property such as schools, parks or places of worship.

Ah. Some actual reporting of fact at the very end, there.


Now, gang, if the law were what it's accused here of being...which it ain't...it would absolutely be unconstitutional and pb'd oppose it. But, this? I'm guessing that it will pass legal muster, even if a wacked woke judge shoots it down initially. And, pb's on board.

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Comments on "Ah. The glories of the objective press: Drag shows are next on hitlist for US state that is heading back to dark ages ":

  1. by Curt_Anderson on February 27, 2023 8:45 am
    That seems pretty close to a complete ban to me. That doesn’t leave much place in which to have a drag show. How many places in a city or town are NOT within 1,000 feet of public property such as schools, parks or places of worship?

  2. by Donna on February 27, 2023 10:14 am

    But Curt , they're the "freedom" party.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on February 27, 2023 10:33 am

    Well, pt, the GOP is, among other things, the party of diversity.

  4. by Donna on February 27, 2023 10:44 am

    It's those "other things" that are worrisome.

  5. by Curt_Anderson on February 27, 2023 10:45 am
    Yes, the GOP diversity ranges from subtle racists to the out-and-out racists.

    The entire Make American Great Again movement is racist.

  6. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 11:04 am
    That's another thing I "like" about you. Objectivity. Especially since it's the dims that have proven to be racist so much. Work for inner city people of color, education of those of color. CRT. And so many other things.

  7. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 11:09 am
    "How many places in a city or town are NOT within 1,000 feet of public property such as schools, parks or places of worship?"

    So you'd approve of prostitution and drug lords setting up in elementary school playgrounds? There's a reason why we have had these laws for decades. But of course you don't give a hoot in .... about the kids going there, only that we don't come close to limiting the rights of gangsters and pedophiles. Which of course you support. Welcome to portland....

  8. by Curt_Anderson on February 27, 2023 11:27 am
    "So you'd approve of prostitution and drug lords setting up in elementary school playgrounds?" --OD

    That is the sort of ridiculous argument we've come to expect from you. What does prostitution and drug lords have to do with drag shows? Prostitution and drug dealing is illegal in most locales. What's your point?

    Let me try making a OD-style argument in response to you and HtS:
    So you'd make it illegal for people to watch movies like "Mrs. Doubtfire", "Tootsie" and "Some Like It Hot" in the privacy of their own homes if they lived near a school, park or church!

    You wouldn't allow people to watch reruns of "Bosom Buddies"...how long have you hated Tom Hanks? Tom Hanks has been an active supporter of veteran organizations and a philanthropist to veteran charities. So comrade, you must hate Americas veterans and our freedom too!
    militarytimes.com

  9. by HatetheSwamp on February 27, 2023 11:35 am

    Donna,

    When pb describes the attributes of the GOP, he notes that the party is the home, most of all, not of freedom but of free-thinking. There's some of what's in the GOP that is every bit as intent on domination of political opponents as in run of the mill Dem-ism.

    But, to join this club, you have to respect people who think differently. None of thar lockstep stuff.

    Nevertheless, under this law, you can run drag shows in your home 24/7, or in the private club or bar you own, or, even, in the private school you send your kiddies to.

    Freedom. Lots and lots of freedom. Even in Tennessee. Even under this law.

    But, in America these days if you want to inflict drag shows on the unwilling in public places, as Gutfeld says, go for it. This is, indeed, America. But, from now on, you're going to have to fight for it. No more foisting. But, by all means, fight the good fight.

  10. by HatetheSwamp on February 27, 2023 11:37 am

    So you'd make it illegal for people to watch movies like "Mrs. Doubtfire", "Tootsie" and "Some Like It Hot" in the privacy of their own homes if they lived near a school, park or church!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

  11. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 11:42 am
    You were just whining incessantly about having restrictions near schools, playgrounds, or places of worship, saying it was too restrictive to have adult "entertainment" there. I gave you examples of where states and municipalities choose to exclude certain groups from those places. Adult "entertainment" businesses (porn stores, soliciting, drug sales, and strip bars) are generally included in that category. What is known by police and citizens in the neighborhoods, is that when you put a strip joint in a neighborhood, it also pulls in a different demographic. In most areas, this also includes bars and weed sales also. So it's not about being hateful towards a community, it's about that community not wanting to have their children exposed to that demographic. You can call it what you want. I'd say it's a community protecting it's children.

    The truth is that all they did was enumerate another piece of their law for clarification.

  12. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 11:44 am
    Also, your other "arguements" are just plain stupid. As usual. As you KNOW, what two adults do in their homes is what they do. So now, you're just being stupid and reactive. Thank you for your heartfelt and gracious method of putting that out there.

  13. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 11:45 am
    sorry, arguments.

  14. by Donna on February 27, 2023 12:33 pm

    But, to join this club, you have to respect people who think differently. None of thar lockstep stuff.

    I guess you got me there, Hts, as I don't respect Nazis or White Supremacists.


  15. by Donna on February 27, 2023 12:39 pm

    Of course Nazis and White Supremacists are free to register as Democrats though.

    Why do you suppose that Nazis and White Supremacists often register as Republicans but probably never as Democrats?

  16. by HatetheSwamp on February 27, 2023 12:44 pm

    Yeah, yeah, Donna, we know. Our side condemned J6 while it was taking place. Many on your side still remember fondly the 020 Antifa and BLM Summer of violence and mayhem and murder.

  17. by Donna on February 27, 2023 12:55 pm

    There's no one on your side who remembers fondly the J6 insurrection?



  18. by HatetheSwamp on February 27, 2023 1:02 pm

    Not that I'm aware of. As you know, the majority of GOP thinks that there was significant vote fraud in 020 many still suspect that the election was stolen. Still, the GOPs I know were condemning the J6 riot in the moment.

  19. by Donna on February 27, 2023 1:20 pm

    I'm not aware of anyone on my side who remembers the riots you mentioned, either. But as you know, those people exist on both sides.




  20. by Donna on February 27, 2023 3:03 pm

    I mean "who remembers fondly..."

  21. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 4:47 pm
    You mean the summer of love event? Not one of you condemned them. All that was said was they were "mostly peaceful." Except they weren't. $20 billion later, stores looted, burned and sacked. Small businesses put out of business. Yeah, just another day in the life of the left.

  22. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 4:22 am

    To this day, OD, I can't recall one of our progressives denounce their Summer of Love. When they declare the obvious: It was far worse than J6. I'll believe that it's all not a fond memory.

    They love it. They know it. We know it.

  23. by Donna on February 28, 2023 6:33 am

    This looks like an objective overview.

    usatoday.com

  24. by Ponderer on February 28, 2023 6:35 am

    "Freedom. Lots and lots of freedom." - Hate

    Just a lot and lots less freedom than Americans had before the Republicans started to go all "diversified" and "freedom loving" in eliminating freedoms they don't approve of others having.

    And they are doing all this for no constitutionally justifiable, rational, reality based reasons whatsoever. For no other reasons other than their religiously dogmatic, hateful, paranoid bigotry.


    But according to Both Ways Bill, all their religiously dogmatic, hateful, paranoid bigotry is just the misunderstood fruit of their love for freedom and diversity. According to him, the Republicans are only taking people's freedoms, rights, and liberties away from a diverse set of minorities in this country because that's just what you are driven to do when you love freedom, liberty, and diversity as much as they do.

    It must be a religiously conservative thing I guess. We libtards simply wouldn't understand.


    The absurd insanity currently emanating from the religious/conservative right is emblematic of just how frantic they are to impose their religious beliefs on the citizens of this country. And the closer they feel they are getting to accomplishing that task, the more frantic, unreasonable, and sociopathic they get in their tactics.

    The only freedom that Hate's side respects and loves is their own. Period. Everyone else has far too many freedoms in what is supposedly their Christian based nation as far as they are concerned.


  25. by Ponderer on February 28, 2023 6:52 am

    I guess we're just going to need to have another Stonewall uprising. Just a matter of time now.

    The Supreme Court is going to rip this unconstitutional Trump 2.0 shitt to shreds.

    Wonder which will happen first.

  26. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 6:57 am

    And they are doing all this for no constitutionally justifiable, rational, reality based reasons whatsoever. For no other reasons other than their religiously dogmatic, hateful, paranoid bigotry.

    Were you in the Syracuse Law School with Curt and the Flatulent Fool? My guess is that at least part of the law will, ultimately, be upheld in court.

    But according to Both Ways Bill, all their religiously dogmatic, hateful, paranoid bigotry is just the misunderstood fruit of their love for freedom and diversity. According to him, the Republicans are only taking people's freedoms, rights, and liberties away from a diverse set of minorities in this country because that's just what you are driven to do when you love freedom, liberty, and diversity as much as they do.

    Whoa Nellie Belle.

    What pb says is that the GOP is the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, diversity, tolerance and, most of all,...FREE-THINKING. Clearly, there are GOPs who tend toward authoritarianism...nearly as much as you locksteppin libs.

    One of the beauties of life among GOPs is that libertarians, such as pb, and authoritarians coexist. No lockstepping over here, po, something that pb's guessing violates your values.

    Understand. pb's bang on. The GOP is the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, tolerance, diversity...

    ...and FREE...THINKING. But, some GOPs are not into individual freedom any more than are you, po.

  27. by Donna on February 28, 2023 7:18 am

    I think what's happening is that over the last decade or so, many socially conservative parents have seen their kids become transformed into these socially liberal, or as they say, "woke" teens and young adults they no longer recognize.

    In a desperate attempt to reverse this trend, some of those parents have taken it on themselves to blame public schools for this metamorphosis when actually it's their kids addiction to social media that's responsible for the changes they're seeing.

    I predict that over the next decade, after so-called wokism has been thoroughly expunged from their kids' curriculum, those efforts to shield kids from so-called woke culture will prove to have been a miserable failure, because their kids spend much more time on social media than they do in the classroom.

    Look for these parents then to refocus their efforts on social media reform and call for laws restricting what people are allowed to discuss on social media, which will also fail miserably because by that time, the wokesters themselves will be raising kids of their own and the transformation of America into woke culture will be near complete.

    Change, like it or not, is here to stay. This is has been true with every passing generation. Resistance is futile.







  28. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 8:09 am

    I think what's happening is that over the last decade or so, many socially conservative parents have seen their kids become transformed into these socially liberal, or as they say, "woke" teens and young adults they no longer recognize.

    In a desperate attempt to reverse this trend,...

    Donna,

    Desperate, eh!!!!!?

    You're no po, but po's wearing on you. I think that you're on to something but I would add many of those kids have been tempted to the dark side through the Big Brother tactics that have become commonplace in most public schools, and other public, tax funded, venues, e.g., PUBLIC libraries, and that it's the woke world's Big Brother-ism that parents find especially offensive.

    This Tennessee bill?, can be understood as a fight against the power, dominance and oppression of Big Brother, interfering even in the relationship between parent and child.

    I'll paraphrase Gutfeld. If you want drag queens to have open access to toddlers, fine. This is America. Go for it...but, for the time being, you're going to have to fight for it.

    No more foisting.

  29. by Ponderer on February 28, 2023 8:25 am

    You nailed it, Donna. Right on the nose. As did I.

    And Both Ways Bill has nothing of any substance at all to refute our assertions with. All he can do is lamely attempt to justify his bigotry and hatred with absolute nonsense.

  30. by Ponderer on February 28, 2023 8:28 am

    "Free thinking"?????

    Bill, you theocratic zealots are about as "free thinking" as a 17th level Scientologist.

  31. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 8:36 am

    Still, that Tennessee bill is now law...no matter superior and entitled you imagine yourself to be.

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

  32. by islander on February 28, 2023 8:50 am

    I think it’s normal that as people (most but not all) get older they become more fearful of change and more fearful of risk. And with every passing generation all through history there has always been a certain percentage of older people who look down on the younger generation as pretty much screwed up compared to their imaginary image of themselves, and ya can’t dismiss this because it seems very real to them.

    I’m very optimistic about the younger generation. I think they are doing just fine, and this isn’t because I’m only talking about my own kids, 12 grand-kids and nephews and nieces and their friends !!! 😀


  33. by Donna on February 28, 2023 8:56 am

    Agreed, islander. Sheri and I don't agree with everything Gen X and Y have been putting forth, but all in all we think that they're bringing positive changes to our culture.

    Btw, this isn't just happening in America. It's worldwide.

  34. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 9:04 am

    I think it’s normal that as people (most but not all) get older they become more fearful of change and more fearful of risk.

    Yeah. I'm thinking of those aged alarmists in Germany who were fearful in the early 1930s. You, too?

    Challenge is ALWAYS good, eh!!!!!?

  35. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 9:05 am

    Btw, this isn't just happening in America. It's worldwide.

    To what do you refer, pt?

  36. by Donna on February 28, 2023 9:13 am

    Their compassion for marginalized people like Sheri and I. I love how they're working to make it okay for people to live out loud and be their authentic selves, which definitely isn't the world you and I grew up in.

  37. by HatetheSwamp on February 28, 2023 9:21 am

    Who was it, Curt?, who made light of Putin running for the GOP nomination? Quite in spite of himself, I'm sure, Curt made the point that, apart from Europe and the US and Canada, woke genderism ain't flying high these days. And, for the moment, it seems to be losing ground in the US.

  38. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 10:32 am
    It's interesting, but not really surprising. The 'party of the working class" is absolutely not. They hate small business, and love "company stores." which is interesting because they say they hate Walmart (the US poor person's company store). And they don't care about people at all. It's now the party of destroying US exceptionalism and moving to a single global Marxist government. I do marvel at their cajónes though.

    AOC just went on another rant on social media "demanding" Japan be more inclusive. WTF? Honestly, who does she think she is? She goes to the country as a US representative and then insults them. Again, the respect for others is "only" what shallow little world is to them. And people don't matter at all. It's about their goals, and people be damned. We KNOW what is better for you!

    At the head of this, is their insistence the government dictate to parents how to raise their children. pedojoe even said it, "those aren't their kids, they're "our" kids." Even at the head of our Bill of Rights, they openly disallow teachers to live by their morals and religion. To the point, the Islamic clerics (both Sunni and Shiite) are meeting with the Christian and Jewish clerics in an unprecedented show of mutual support for each other in the sheep's "woke" agenda. This shows yet another piece of reality (through the eyes of Islam), "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

    They attempted several breaches into the Senate chambers during the Kavanaugh and Comey Barrett hearings, an attempted assassination on more than one US representative, and tried for a couple more, as well as a SCOTUS Chief Justice. They burned down cities in the name of "progress" set up their own "government" in some cities where they wouldn't allow EMS folks in, even to pick up bodies of the dead.

    Through all of this, they forgot one basic premise. The opposite and equal reaction on the right. They wrongly "ASSumed" the right was just going to be asleep and allow this to happen. That proved not to be true (thusly the term "awake" as opposed to "woke). Yes, they did take the house and senate building, the vast majority of the right disclaimed and condemned them. This was stupid from the start, but the left had tried (and failed). They just succeeded.

    My view? Don't blame us for your abject failures. And deflection isn't a good look for you. jussayin...

    foxnews.com
    news.yahoo.com
    nypost.com
    thefederalist.com

  39. by Ponderer on February 28, 2023 10:40 am

    "It's interesting, but not really surprising. The 'party of the working class' is absolutely not. They hate small business, and love 'company stores.'" -olde dude

    This is why I rarely ever read any of your long-ass posts, od. When you start right out by making some ludicrous, bombastic, pig-ignorantly asinine assertion that couldn't be further from the truth, why on Earth would anyone want to continue reading any further? Other than curiosity, just to see how totally insane your ramblings will continue to get.

  40. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 12:23 pm
    At least I cite my posts. Which is MUCH more than I can say about the sheeple (inclusive)

  41. by Curt_Anderson on February 28, 2023 1:55 pm
    "At least I cite my posts. Which is MUCH more than I can say about the sheeple (inclusive)" --OD

    OK, cite where you got these percentages about voter registration which you posted in the thread linked below:
    by oldedude on February 27, 2023 8:46 pm
    The normal amount of registered voters generally runs between 40-60%. Many districts are lower than that. In LA County, there's a voting difference of 50-70% in the average and how many were registered. You don't think that's odd?

    selectsmart.com

  42. by Donna on February 28, 2023 1:58 pm

    Unless I'm posting my opinion, I almost always post references.

  43. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 2:37 pm
    So just being a dick now, eh curt?

    The 2020 election featured the largest increase in voters between two presidential elections on record with 17 million more people voting than in 2016.

    In 2020, 67% of all citizens age 18 and older reported voting, up 5 percentage points from 2016 (Figure 1).

    Only citizens — U.S.-born or naturalized — age 18 or older are eligible to vote.

    In addition, 73% of all voting-age citizens were registered to vote, 2 percentage points higher than in 2016.

    The COVID-19 pandemic did not prevent Americans from registering and voting at relatively high rates. Only 2% of citizens 18 and older who did not register to vote reported not registering because of concerns about the COVID-19 pandemic and only 4% of registered nonvoters reported not voting due to such concerns.

  44. by Curt_Anderson on February 28, 2023 2:48 pm
    OD,
    So? Cite your source for the sketchy statistics you posted about voter registration. See my comment #41 above.

    Without doing an exhaustive research, I am quite sure that this forum's liberals, including me, are much better at providing citations than the conservatives here.

  45. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 3:25 pm
    Actually, you're really the only one that routinely cites. Donna is a close next. The other two are rare if ever. And refuse to cite. Prove me wrong
    census.gov

  46. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 3:27 pm
    Lead,
    This is called "passive aggressive sharpshooting" It's when someone feels inferior and needs to prove you wrong to make themselves feel better about themselves. Isle uses deflection in his.

  47. by Curt_Anderson on February 28, 2023 3:39 pm
    OK, OD, I won't press you any more on this matter. Suffice to say nothing supports your claim that the percentage of registered LA voters is "odd" or suspicious. You posted without citation that the "normal amount of registered voters generally runs between 40-60%. Many districts are lower than that. In LA County, there's a voting difference of 50-70% in the average and how many were registered. You don't think that's odd?" I was skeptical about about the thrust of that thread from your OP onward.

    If pointing that out makes me a "dick", so be it. I can live with that.



  48. by oldedude on February 28, 2023 6:05 pm
    Let's try this. I agree, my numbers were on those who voted. my error, and yes you were.
    statista.com

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