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The Tragedy of Hershal Walker

By islander
December 7, 2022 7:10 am
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The Atlantic had a sad but true article about how the GOP used Walker. Here is a bit of it. Click on the link to read the whole piece (it’s not long).

"I watched the film version of Friday Night Lights almost obsessively during my senior year of high school. My father had just died. He was a diplomat, a businessman, and the general counsel of the U.S. Army, and he loved conservative optics and southern spaces and all manner of iconic Americana, for good or ill. So the movie connected me to him, or something—offered me catharsis, or something. The movie immersed me in all of the hard, strange things about the South, the questions about achievement and race and class and excellence and objectification, and what it can mean to lose or win or talk to God about any of it.


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Comments on "The Tragedy of Hershal Walker":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 9:39 am

    Interestingly, Buck Sexton, of Clay and Buck did a Twitter poll to get a feel for who his followers think is to blame for Walker's loss. The four choices:

    Walker himself
    Mitch McConnell
    Donald Trump
    Other

    Ideas on who was blamed by most among that group of voters. Any guesses? So far, more than 50,000 responses.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on December 7, 2022 10:24 am
    Trump. He deserves the blame picking Walker and propping him up. Trump wanted another MAGA in Congress. Walker was clearly unqualified, but that’s not his fault. McConnell expressed concern about “candidate quality”.


  3. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 10:45 am

    Well, you and I agree.


  4. by islander on December 7, 2022 11:31 am

    Hate ~ You should read the article. It has nothing to do with "why" Walker lost the election, it could however give you some insight into what you call of the inclusiveness of the Republican party is really all about.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 12:06 pm

    I tried to read it. There's a pay wall. I'm not going to go through the free trial rigamarole.

    Why don't you just copy and paste key portions of the article?


  6. by islander on December 7, 2022 12:31 pm

    Here ya go Hate...In it's entirety:

    "Commodity. Chattel. Contraband. Capital. What is a Black body in the South? What is a Black southern man, carted out to work a white-owned field?

    It’s impossible today to talk about Black men and white agendas without talking about Herschel Walker, the Republican candidate for Senate in the runoff election in Georgia. But in order to talk about Walker, I’ve got to start in what may be his actual state of residence, Texas.

    I watched the film version of "Friday Night Lights" almost obsessively during my senior year of high school. My father had just died. He was a diplomat, a businessman, and the general counsel of the U.S. Army, and he loved conservative optics and southern spaces and all manner of iconic Americana, for good or ill. So the movie connected me to him, or something—offered me catharsis, or something. The movie immersed me in all of the hard, strange things about the South, the questions about achievement and race and class and excellence and objectification, and what it can mean to lose or win or talk to God about any of it.

    But there was one scene I hated to watch.

    Coach Gaines is getting ready for the start of the season, and attending a booster-club dinner with a table of wealthy white donors who presumably love God and football and Texas and not a whole lot else. It’s a subtle scene, the dinner party spliced with distracting clips of the players at a raucous high-school party. A woman talks almost salaciously about the physicality of the young men she saw on the field during practice: “What I saw was speed out there, but where’s the beef, Coach? I saw me some small boys.” The master’s wife, perusing the auction block. Then a cut to more beer guzzling, more Run-D.M.C., more teenage hijinks. And then it’s back to the elegant, sinister dining room.

    Quietly, the woman worried about how small the players are this year offers Gaines some advice. “You know what you should do?” she says. “You should play Boobie Miles [on] defense. Work him both ways.”

    Coach doesn’t quite see it that way—you don’t risk your prize thoroughbred on a recreational outing. “Well, see, the problem with that is,” he replies, “I don’t want to get him hurt. We need him to score touchdowns.”

    The woman doesn’t miss a beat. And her reply is seared forever on my brain. “Bullshit. That big nigger ain’t gonna break. You wanna beat Midland Lee, you play him middle linebacker.”

    That big nigger ain’t gonna break. Every time I watch one of these smug, jowly, dangerous Republicans sitting next to Herschel Walker, wheeling him out for their own designs, I see that dinner-table conversation in the background of my mind. Walker is a big, ball-carrying Black man, and these Republicans do not have an ounce of care for him. They are using him to advance their own Constitution-compromising agenda, the way conservative white people in this country have always used Black bodies when given half a chance.

    Walker stands up at podiums, and I feel shame and sorrow and resentment. He is incoherent, bumbling, oily. He smiles with a swagger that does nothing to disguise his total ignorance of how blatantly he is being taken advantage of by a party that has never intended to serve people who look like him.

    Walker’s candidacy is a fundamental assault by the Republican Party on the dignity of Black Americans. How dare they so cynically use this buffoon as a shield for their obvious failings to meet the needs and expectations of Black voters? They hold him up and say, “See, our voters don’t mind his race. We’re not a racist party. We have Black people on our side too.” Parading Walker at rallies like some kind of blue-ribbon livestock does not mean you have Black people on your side. What it means is that you are promoting a charlatan—a man morally and intellectually bereft enough, blithely egomaniacal enough, to sing and dance on the world stage against his own best interest. Is he in on the joke? Does he know they picked him to save money on boot black and burnt cork, this man who made his name by bringing the master glory on the master’s field, who got comfortable eating from the master’s table?

    For the record, Coach Gaines did play Boobie Miles, and Boobie Miles suffered a career-ending injury. And the team carried on. They left him and his broken Black body behind. His dreams, nothing to them. His legacy, utterly compromised.

    Whether Walker wins or loses, whatever was good or valuable or worthy about his prior professional legacy has been utterly compromised. His many trophies are now and forever eclipsed by the humiliating spectacle of his political foray. He is ruined, and the party that propped him up does not care.

    From where I sit, the election looks like a kind of grotesque minstrelsy. The Republican Party is saying that it wants power more than decency. It’s saying that race is a joke. We must all take note—it is willing to destroy a man to advance its cause. The party thinks he won’t break. And if he does, well, he wasn’t really one of them, anyway, was he?

    I grew up in Tennessee and still live here. Although it has become obscure, in the South, if you listen closely in the right (wrong) crowd, you will still hear the term ofe thrown around to describe a Black person. Not o-a-f. Ofe, spelled o-f-e. Obsolete Farm Equipment.

    I’ll ask again: What does it mean to be a Black man in the South, working a white-owned field?"





  7. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 12:43 pm

    Thanks, but...

    Wow, buddy, you've plunged to new depths of hate and GOPaphobia. Stick with Heather and Teri. How dare Herschel Walker even think about moseying off the Swampcultic Dem plantation!!!!! Keep them darkies in their place, eh. How dare the GOPs continue to be the party of openness and inclusion and tolerance and acceptance and diversity!!!!!


  8. by Curt_Anderson on December 7, 2022 12:51 pm
    Islander, see my post #9 in the link below. It's a scene from the movie "Soldier's Story". In the scene one soldier represents the old Stepin Fetchit type African-American who white people trotted out for their entertainment. Outside the jail cell is an African-American seeking respect and a place in America.

    OD and HtS accused my of being racist. They are wrong of course. Many Blacks in Georgia felt personally insulted by Walker's candidacy. Trump and Republicans clearly calculated that Walker could cut into the Warnock's vote among Black voters. Basically, the GOP argument for Walker was one Black is as good as another or Blacks won't notice the difference. That's pretty racist.

    Seriously, can imagine Walker giving a floor speech in the Senate?
    selectsmart.com


  9. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 1:07 pm

    I'm certain that you can't appreciate how subtle and vile your racism is...both of you!

    Walker wasn't appointed by his white massahs to run against Warnock. He won the primary fairly. He was a poor candidate, no doubt. What is telling, though, is that you're focusing your hate and sanctimony on the black poor GOP candidate, not on white Senate candidates several of whom who fared worse than did Walker. Why's Herschel Walker your target? We know full well. The one thing that distinguishes him from, say, Blake Masters and Don Bolduc is his race. He's a black man who had the audacity to stray from your plantation. Plain. Simple.

    You should be ashamed!


  10. by islander on December 7, 2022 1:24 pm

    "OD and HtS accused my of being racist." ~ Curt

    Of course they would. When they do that they're confessing their own hatred and bigotry.

    I've described a number of times what the term TDS really means. It's a term that they and their ilk made up..."Trump Dyslexia Syndrome"...They see everything backwards. That's their "delusion".

    Your post and the Atlantic piece really hit home with Hate but he can't except what the posts were saying so he has to turn it around to mean the opposite. Hate does so by claiming you and I are the racists and haters for pointing out something he can't face. I doubt Hate and his ilk really believe what they say deep down inside. But they have to, somehow, hide the truth from themselves and reversing meaning is how they do it.

    I don't think for one moment that they are really unable to understand the point of the two pieces.



  11. by islander on December 7, 2022 1:33 pm

    By the way...Caroline Randal Williams, the author of the Atlantic piece is an African American author and poet. It's too bad Hate can't talk to her to find out why the piece does not mean what he thinks she is saying.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 2:06 pm

    I'll be happy to read her pieces on Bolduc and Masters, oh, and Dr Oz. I'm sure that, since those races are long settled, they're out there. Just post those links.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on December 7, 2022 2:34 pm
    HtS, there is no mystery. Trump endorsed Dr. Oz, Bolduc, Blake Masters, Kari Lake, Herschel Walker, and others. Their single qualification for office (as far as Trump and MAGA voters were concerned) and the reason they won their respective primaries is because everyone of them were election deniers. Their election denialism was an insult to all intelligent people.

    President Joe Biden presided over the most successful midterm election by a political party since 1934.


  14. by islander on December 7, 2022 2:53 pm

    ”Walker wasn't appointed by his white massahs to run against Warnock. He won the [Republican] primary fairly. He was a poor candidate, no doubt.” ~ Hate

    And the Georgia Republicans knew that, yet, knowing he was a totally unqualified for the job and a poor candidate to boot, the Georgia Republicans got together in their smoke filled rooms (to use your language) and decided to run Walker against Warnock anyway. So they endorsed and backed this unqualified poor candidate from the very beginning...Why would they run such an unqualified candidate? How did they think they could benefit by doing such a thing? 



    You’re not as naive as you pretend to be, Hate. By endorsing Walker, which voters did they think they could siphon off in order to ensure themselves another six year Republican Senate seat? Which voters did they need to siphon off?

    Did the Republicans in their smoke filled rooms foolishly think they could insult the intelligence of the the Black Georgia voters by imagining they would vote for for an unqualified candidate because he was Black and a former football player? 

Well guess what...The Georgia Republicans made fools of themselves !!!


    But by recognizing this...According to you, Curt and I are haters and racists. LoL !!!


  15. by HatetheSwamp on December 7, 2022 3:23 pm

    Georgia Republicans knew that, yet, knowing he was a totally unqualified for the job and a poor candidate to boot,...

    You despicable racist! Raphael Warnock is nuthin but Liberation Theology preachin Bible-thumper. What qualifies him other than that he agrees with you!!!!!? He's your typical Dem political plantation house boy. Completely compliant. Submissive. Obedient. A good darkie! Yasir yasir, massah!

    As far as your hate of Walker who dares to promote MAGA-ism, you absolutely are vile racists. You should be ashamed.


  16. by islander on December 7, 2022 3:37 pm

    "Raphael Warnock is nuthin but Liberation Theology preachin Bible-thumper. What qualifies him other than that he agrees with you!!!!!? He's your typical Dem political plantation house boy." ~ Hate

    Your Hatred and racism is showing, Hate.

    I don't hate Walker one bit...He was, as Caroline made clear, simply "used' by the Georgia Republicans.



  17. by islander on December 7, 2022 3:55 pm

    "What qualifies him other than that he agrees with you!!!!!? ~ Hate

    Click on the link to see some of the bills Warnock sponsored or co-sponsored.
    congress.gov


  18. by Donna on December 8, 2022 10:50 am

    Rev. Warnock's a good man and one of the rising stars in the party.



  19. by HatetheSwamp on December 8, 2022 11:02 am

    According to his ex wife, he ain't such a good man.

    And, as a qualified politician, he's exactly what pb said, a Liberation Theology preachin Bible-thumper. Nuthin more.


  20. by Donna on December 8, 2022 11:09 am

    Liberation Theology is suddenly a bad thing to you now?

    LOL! Martin Luther King, who you purport to be a big fan of also preached Liberation Theology. In fact Rev Warnock is the pastor at Ebenezer Baptist in Atlanta where Rev. King was the pastor.



  21. by HatetheSwamp on December 8, 2022 11:16 am

    The point is, Donna, he's no more qualified to serve in the Senate than was Herschel Walker...except, of course, he's a good Dem plantation house slave.


  22. by Curt_Anderson on December 8, 2022 11:26 am
    HtS,
    The general election voters of Georgia disagreed with you. They voted for Raphael Warnock four times. Twice against Kelly Loeffler, twice against Herschel Walker.

    Warnock said something Tuesday that you'd also disagree with. He said the four most important words in a democracy are "the people have spoken".


  23. by HatetheSwamp on December 8, 2022 11:32 am

    Unlike you Blue MAGAs here. pb ain't an election denier.

    Warnock was, undoubtedly, a stronger candidate that Walker. But that mean he's not a Bible-thumper.


  24. by Curt_Anderson on December 8, 2022 11:48 am
    I suppose in the bizarro world you inhabit, HtS, you are not an election denier but we are because we accept the outcome of a free and fair election.

    Btw, aren't Christian pastors by definition "Bible Thumpers"?



  25. by islander on December 8, 2022 12:20 pm

    Curt ~ On the old board Hate even described himself as a "Post Modern Bible Thumper" along with his many other name changes.


  26. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2022 3:25 am

    I think that it was Postmodern Bible-thumper. And, I am. Thing is. I'm not running for Senate. If I do, please don't support me.

    You, as po'd say and since it's Friday, EFFIN hypocrites!


  27. by islander on December 9, 2022 5:41 am

    I think, in this thread, Hate has demonstrated with crystal clarity his disingenuousness and lack of integrity. The character traits that particularly stand out are his hypocrisy and deceitfulness.


  28. by Donna on December 9, 2022 7:48 am

    Hts's hypocricy problem stems from his propensity to post things that are intentionally provocative as opposed to factual or representative of his real positions which are more nuanced.


  29. by islander on December 9, 2022 8:33 am

    That could be but I think it’s just a way for him to get the attention he craves and needs. Either way it makes it impossible to hold a rational conversation with him since his posts basically consist of childish name calling and hyperbole as his means of arguing.


  30. by oldedude on December 9, 2022 12:05 pm
    "OD and HtS accused my of being racist."

    When? I'm willing to listen if you give me some context.

    I've purposefully avoided this thread because I think the premise is racist and only invites disruption, division, and hate.

    I have said the dims are racists for the past almost 200 years. This is just a fact. They were completely part and parcel to the slave trade, the "anti's" during the 1950's- 1970's. Now they have assumed the minorities "need" them because they give them stuff (read too stupid to have a job or to manage money). That's racist to believe that people don't want to work or be safe, while the white rich snowflakes (read owners) go to their clubs and good jobs to make the rules for others.

    Walker is a bad candidate. No doubt.

    Warnock is a slum lord who apparently made a deal with the devil. The only reason they gave him money was to win a seat and to have someone that "owes" them.

    Is it worth the hatred on this thread? Absolutely not.


  31. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2022 12:22 pm
    OD,
    Here is the context. See link below.

    In comment #8 you say, "Honestly, the issue is that sheep(literaly) hate minorities voting for anyone that doesn't support them." That's something you apparently believe as you've made similar observations in the past, including your contentions about Democrats for the past 200 years as you expressed immediately above.

    Just below your comment in #10 of that thread HtS said, "if you read isle's article and don't see the racism...and didn't object...you're either lying or you are a virulent racist."
    selectsmart.com


  32. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2022 12:41 pm

    I've purposefully avoided this thread because I think the premise is racist and only invites disruption, division, and hate.

    Obviously, I haven't avoided it but the racism is obvious. It astounds me that our progressives claim not to see their racism. Their hate is apparent. It's baffling. Aggravating. Liberals have practiced this brand of racism since at least Clarence Thomas. They're unrepentant. More than that, they seem proud of themselves. It's evil.

    Amazing.


  33. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2022 1:11 pm
    For those who want to hear Caroline Randall Williams in an interview, see the link below She debunks the HtSs of the world who say it's racist to question a candidate like Herschel Walker.
    msnbc.com


  34. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2022 1:11 pm
    For those who want to hear Caroline Randall Williams in an interview, see the link below She debunks the HtSs of the world who say it's racist to question a candidate like Herschel Walker.
    msnbc.com


  35. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2022 1:34 pm

    This is a joke, right?


  36. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2022 2:01 pm
    HtS, I am not sure what you think is the joke here. However, the notion that you would put forth a substantive response is a joke.


  37. by islander on December 9, 2022 2:02 pm
    Curt ~ Here’s where Hate and od fail miserably in their smarmy claims that we are racists and haters.

    I don’t, and have never voted for or against any candidate because of the candidate’s skin color or ethnicity. Whether a candidate is African American, Italian American, or Irish American, is completely irrelevant.

    I do not hate Walker nor have I ever expressed any kind of hatred toward Walker and there was no hatred for Walker expressed in the article by the author or in anything she or I said.

    I challenge both Hate and od to back up their claims by quoting anything that either you, the author, or I said that expressed any kind of hatred for Walker...I won’t accept a simple repetition of their false claim.

    What I have acknowledged, as have Hate and od themselves, is that Walker was unqualified for the position he was seeking and that he was very a poor candidate. Both of which have absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I did support Warnock, not because he is black, but because I thought he was more qualified and a better candidate than Walker. The voters of Georgia agreed.

    The question in this thread is why would the Republicans, who claim to be the party of family values recruit, back, and support a completely inexperienced and incompetent person who embodies everything the Republican party has claim to oppose: violent crime, abortion, homes broken by absentee fathers etc. to run against Warnock? What possible advantage could they possibly think they were going to gain by doing so? How did they think it could it possibly help them?



  38. by oldedude on December 9, 2022 9:22 pm
    Prove where I said it. Other than dims being a racist group, which is historically verified.


  39. by oldedude on December 9, 2022 9:44 pm
    "In comment #8 you say, "Honestly, the issue is that sheep(literally) hate minorities voting for anyone that doesn't support them." That's something you apparently believe as you've made similar observations in the past, including your contentions about Democrats for the past 200 years as you expressed immediately above."

    I'll stand by that if YOU think the shoe fits. It's calling the party racist. Honestly, if you and isle are so either paranoid and/or self absorbed you believe you're the center of everyone else's universe, then so be it. They were the ones that were the confederates in the war of Northern Aggression. They started the KKK. They were the ones that turned dogs on the civil rights marchers. The first article is about mandatory IDs to vote. I think they are more than irate and call you both out on what you have been saying about that subject. Perhaps you should get a second opinion...

    And I'm not the only one. "This is What Liberals Think of Black Americans"
    o claim that requiring a government-issued form of photo identification to vote is “racist” against black Americans is to imply that black Americans are too dumb and/or too lazy to go to the DMV like everyone else.

    Americans of all colors, shapes, and sizes need photo identification to conduct personal and business matters in their daily lives. If you want to open a bank account, you must present a photo ID. If you want to buy alcohol or cigarettes, you must prove you’re of legal age with photo ID. If you want to receive government welfare, you must show a photo ID. Applying for an apartment, unemployment, Social Security, and Medicaid all require proof of identity in the form of photo ID.

    An individual must present a photo ID card to rent an apartment or a hotel room. Need a life-saving prescription filled? You must show your photo ID to get it.

    People don’t have to possess a driver’s license unless they drive. Residents can apply for a non-driver’s license photo ID card, and in some cases, get it for a reduced fee.

    But liberals claim that requiring Americans to show photo ID to vote is burdensome for certain racial groups, the elderly, and the “poor.”

    Every black American, regardless of political leanings, should be offended by this.

    Watch the video below, and listen as these liberals answer the question: Do you think requiring photo ID to vote suppresses the black vote? Then listen to what actual black people have to say.



    How Liberals Use Black People
    Let's look at some of the ways white liberals use black people. One of the more obvious ways is for liberals to equate any kind of injustices suffered by homosexuals and women to the black struggle for civil rights. But it is just plain nonsense to suggest any kind of equivalency between the problems of homosexuals and women and the centuries of slavery followed by Jim Crow, lynching, systematic racial discrimination and the blood, sweat and tears of the black civil rights movement.

    The largest and most powerful labor union in the country is the National Education Association, with well over 3 million members. Teachers benefit enormously from their education monopoly. It yields higher pay and lower accountability. It's a different story for a large percentage of black people who receive fraudulent education. The NEA's white liberals — aided by black teachers, politicians and so-called black leaders — cooperate to ensure that black parents who want their children to have a better education have few viable choices.

    Whenever there has been a serious push for school choice, educational vouchers, tuition tax credits or even charter schools, the NEA has fought against it. One of the more callous examples of that disregard for black education was New York Mayor Bill de Blasio's cutback on funding for charter schools where black youngsters were succeeding in getting a better education. That was de Blasio's way of paying back New York's teachers union for the political support it gave him in his quest for the mayor's office.

    White liberals in the media and academia, along with many blacks, have been major supporters of the recent marches protesting police conduct. A man from Mars, knowing nothing about homicide facts, would conclude that the major problem black Americans have with murder and brutality results from the behavior of racist policemen. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, there are about 200 police arrest-related deaths of blacks each year (between 300 and 400 for whites). That number pales in comparison with the roughly 7,000 annual murders of blacks, 94 percent of which are committed by blacks. The number of blacks being murdered by other blacks is of little concern to liberals. Their agenda is to use arrest-related deaths of blacks to undermine established authority.

    Liberals often have demeaning attitudes toward blacks. When Secretary of State John Kerry was a U.S. senator, in a statement about so many blacks being in prison, he said, "That's unacceptable, but it's not their fault." Would Kerry also say that white prison inmates are also faultless? Johns Hopkins University sociologist Andrew Cherlin told us: "It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes. ... (The problem) is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income." The liberal vision is that fathers and husbands can be replaced by a welfare check.

    Liberals desperately need blacks. If the Democratic Party lost just 30 percent of the black vote, it would mean the end of the liberal agenda. That means blacks must be kept in a perpetual state of grievance in order to keep them as a one-party people in a two-party system. When black Americans finally realize how much liberals have used them, I'm betting they will be the nation's most conservative people. Who else has been harmed as much by liberalism's vision and agenda?


    There are two additional citations you can look up. FYSA, These articles were written by blacks, not some white conservative making this up.
    blackcommunitynews.com
    cnsnews.com
    aminadujean.substack.com
    thehill.com
    View Video


  40. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 3:17 am

    I do not hate Walker nor have I ever expressed any kind of hatred toward Walker and there was no hatred for Walker expressed in the article by the author or in anything she or I said. -isle

    Nah! Your hate is the fruit of your condescension and sanctimony.

    I'll ask again. Why all your brouhaha over a conservative black man but not failed GOPs Masters or Bolduc or even Oz. I'm sure that you're in honest denial but, when a black (especially man) has the audacity to leave the progressive Dem plantation, many of you go bonkers...as your posting of that offensive article proves...as you did right here on SS.

    We've all seen it in real time.


  41. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 3:34 am

    They were the ones that were the confederates in the war of Northern Aggression. They started the KKK. They were the ones that turned dogs on the civil rights marchers. The first article is about mandatory IDs to vote. I think they are more than irate and call you both out on what you have been saying about that subject. Perhaps you should get a second opinion... -OD

    Exactly!

    One of the truths that condemns today's Dem/progressive Swampcult is that all of the racist evil...the KKK, Jim Crow, the violent abuse of people in the Civil Rights movement were done when the Dems ran the south. When the south shifted to the GOP?, all that ended.

    This hideous, sanctimonious hatred being expressed toward Herschel Walker, whose affront is being a black conservative, comes from the KKK/Jim Crow mindset. It's vile. The KKK believes that theirs is a righteous cause...in the same way our progressives here are self-righteousness in their hate speech screamed about Walker. It disgusts me in the way the south's racist abuses of the past disgust me.

    And, yet, like the KKK, they're unabashed.


  42. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 3:48 am

    How dare they so cynically use this buffoon...a charlatan—a man morally and intellectually bereft...

    Question: This was said about which failed GOP 020 candidate? (And, praised by isle)

    A. Don Bolduc
    B. Blake Masters
    C. Herschel Walker

    (Hint. One of these is a black conservative.)


  43. by islander on December 10, 2022 4:42 am

    I'll simply repeat my challenge since neither Hate nor od has stepped up to the plate. It would be simple enough if what they claimed were true.

    "I challenge both Hate and od to back up their claims by quoting anything that either you [Curt] , the author, or I said that expressed any kind of hatred for Walker...I won’t accept a simple repetition of their false claim."

    I'm waiting...


  44. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 5:14 am

    Be honest. isle. That hate speech pb quoted? That didn't even register with you as being even slightly over the line. Here are your first words in this thread:

    The Atlantic had a sad but true article
    Your own words. Your description of its words as, "true."

    This could be a meaningful moment for you. You could engage in self-examination. You could adjust your attitude. And, change.


  45. by islander on December 10, 2022 6:06 am


    ""I challenge both Hate and od to back up their claims by quoting anything that either you [Curt] , the author, or I said that expressed any kind of hatred for Walker...I won’t accept a simple repetition of their false claim."

    I'm still waiting...


  46. by oldedude on December 10, 2022 6:12 am
    Again, the great Alinsky move. Where did I say you hate Walker?
    Your deflection noted, which is generally a statement to change the subject so you can "win" in your own small mind.


  47. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 6:16 am

    Y'know. When I was a child, my mom's sister married a man who was so vile a racist that, at age 4 or 5, I could apprehend it. It deeply disturbed me even as a child. (She divorced him before long and he was no longer in my life but my memories of his self-righteousness and hate are still vivid.)

    You're like him.

    You are an unrepentant racist. You're proud to be who you are...

    ...but, you are a racist.

    Nuff said. No need to go there any longer.


  48. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 6:19 am

    Bang on on Alinsky, there, OD. To appropriate isle's own words in introducing that vile article. Sad. True.


  49. by islander on December 10, 2022 6:30 am

    "I challenge both Hate and od to back up their claims by quoting anything that either[Curt], the author, or I said that expressed any kind of hatred for Walker...I won’t accept a simple repetition of their false claim."

    I'm still waiting...


  50. by HatetheSwamp on December 10, 2022 6:48 am

    So was my Uncle Jim...until he died.

    The word "unrepentant" means stuff.


  51. by islander on December 10, 2022 7:18 am

    😀 Smiley said to tell you he is enjoying watching you squirm (shame on Smiley) while you post non sequiturs! However...He wonders if you really might NOT have read Caroline's article. "If" you actually read it, he thinks you might need to click on the link below as it would be of tremendous value to you in order to help you avoid embarrassing yourself in front of others simply because you didn't understand what you read.

    Meanwhile my challenge still stands:

    "I challenge both Hate and od to back up their claims by quoting anything that either[Curt], the author, or I said that expressed any kind of hatred for Walker...I won’t accept a simple repetition of their false claim."

    I'm still waiting...



  52. by oldedude on December 10, 2022 7:34 am
    And I told you to prove I did...

    Still waiting...


  53. by islander on December 10, 2022 7:58 am

    Hate ~ Here's the link 😀 Smiley recommended to you. It will help you to comprehend what Caroline was saying in her article.
    scholarwithin.com


  54. by islander on December 10, 2022 8:05 am

    od wrote; "And I told you to prove I did..."

    Curt already answered your request see the link below #8, but here you go:

    ”Honestly, the issue is that sheep(literaly) hate minorities voting for anyone that doesn't support them.

    “if” the sheep you are referring to does not include us then you are forgiven.
    selectsmart.com


  55. by oldedude on December 10, 2022 9:16 am
    And I answered. At nauseum. And I'll stand by that. Next time, please correct your cranial- rectal inversion.

    Then please read my thread on Alinsky. You're the poster child for a useful idiot. The bad part with me is that I've read your play book. I can call you on your crap because sheeple use the same play book, but you're not spun up enough to be creative.


  56. by islander on December 11, 2022 5:38 am

    More on the tragedy of Hershal Walker.

    "As a Black man, I found the US Senate race between Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker a particularly painful one to watch, observe and analyze. The assumption that a Black football player whose celebrated symbolism in Georgia would be enough to split the Black vote thankfully went unrealized, but the reality that a number of White Georgians were willing to support Walker underscores the troubling questions ahead for a country mired in division and bracing for former President Donald Trump’s bid for his old office in 2024.

    I grieve for the parts of America that enthusiastically embraced Walker’s candidacy. Some people are hopelessly unaware of the negative message their support of him sent to millions of Black Americans, who won’t soon forget it.

    The GOP embrace of Walker represents an American tragedy. Walker’s behavior on the campaign trail included incoherent ramblings about movies and farm animals, nonsensical asides that went nowhere and dancing in front of overwhelmingly White audiences in bizarre scenes that recalled the minstrel shows of the Jim Crow era. The whiff of the Jim Crow era’s objectification of Black men as intellectually feeble but physically powerful grew stronger as Walker’s humiliating campaign continued to showcase the GOP’s failure to understand or connect with Black voters."
    *

    * click on link below


    cnn.com


  57. by oldedude on December 11, 2022 5:58 am
    In this case, you had a crooked slum lord politician that the left sunk more money into than the right.

    "Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock’s campaign had almost three times as much cash on hand as GOP candidate Herschel Walker’s campaign in the runup to Georgia’s runoff Senate election.
    Warnock had just over $29 million on hand as of Nov. 16.
    Walker had over $9.8 million in the bank heading into the final weeks of the election."


    So to Isle, why would the left do that? I think the answer is that he's just as crooked as the rest of the left, and now he's obligated to the depths of hell to the dims. They own him. Remember the dedication Alinsky had in Rules dedicated to Satan. Warnock struck a deal with Louis Cypher and will have to pay for that the rest of his political career.
    cnbc.com


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