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November 9, 2022 6:24 am
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Biden had the most successful mid-terms in modern history. We can all thank the Orange man. It is doubtful whether this could have happened without Trump’s help!

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on November 9, 2022 7:00 am

    Most successful? Bush II, 2002?


  2. by islander on November 9, 2022 7:09 am

    Like Marcy Wheeler says:

    "The more important factor is within the Republican Party. Republicans may finally have to face what an electoral disaster Trump is for them. He has never won a majority, and under his leadership, the Republicans have lost the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and a mid-term election in which they should have flooded Dems. The GOP lost this time by running a bunch of MAGAt candidates who were far easier for Democrats to defeat And DeSantis’ strong win will set up a natural conflict between the two men in Florida.

    The tension between those two — as well as the tension between Trump and McCarthy or McConnell (Trump has, perhaps cynically, endorsed both continuing on as leaders) — may shift the internecine war from one that pits Trumpist Republicans against the country to one that pits Trumpist Republicans against those who would like to move on. It is possible that by setting up a war (or wars) within the GOP, this result will have the effect of suffocating the MAGAt flame.

    It’s never a good idea to rule Trump out. But this election gives the Republicans an opportunity to rip the bandaid of Trumpism off. DeSantis is no better as a person (he’s the competent authoritarian everyone has warned about, but he is nowhere nearly as charismatic as Trump). But tensions between the two of them may serve to give Democrats time to maneuver." 👍


  3. by HatetheSwamp on November 9, 2022 7:52 am

    isle,

    You're thinking of the GOPs as if they're the Dems. We are the party of openness and inclusion. We aren't run out of a smoke filled room. There's no central authority in the GOP to rip off the Trumpism.

    Among the pb GOPs, the Bill Barr GOPs, the mainstream Fox News GOPs now can see a way forward apart from Trump.

    pb first saw that possibly with the backlash against Trump when he floated that DeSanctimonious nickname at the Dr Oz rally.

    Having said that, there are still many in the party who think that Trump's the answer.


  4. by oldedude on November 9, 2022 5:29 pm
    I'm hoping that dwindles to having someone from that deep field that isn't Trump to be able to take the primaries. The DeSantis debacle really stirred up many. New York Jews even. The GOPs need to look beyond Trump for a viable candidate that doesn't split the nation.

    DeSantis is a much better politician. He actually understands the art of compromise, which has been lost with the left's last holdout. A dementia-ridden "former" racist who likes to touch little girls inappropriately and sniff women's hair. He doesn't call people "pet" names and will keep on the subject of specific steps to help constituents. We already have an heir apparent, Jeanette Nuñez. She's great, been with the Gov for awhile now, a Maimi native, also a former state representative from that area, and served on many high level committees.

    We've already had our first official briefing by the Governor regarding Nicole. This is his MO. He is incredibly transparent (huge difference right there), and doesn't speak for all the counties, but refers everyone to their county for very localized updates.


  5. by oldedude on November 9, 2022 6:54 pm
    Lead- This is what you get when everything they learned is out of someone else's books.... and nothing from the real world. It shows as incredible naivete.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 4:43 am

    Lead- This is what you get when everything they learned is out of someone else's books.... and nothing from the real world. It shows as incredible naivete.

    OD

    It used to drive me crazy, back in the day, when conservatives and GOPs would listen to Rush Limbaugh and think they understood Dems and liberals.

    What isle does is far worse. It's like reading MEIN KAMPF and thinking you understand Jews.


  7. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 6:13 am
    Yeah, I think of it this way. If your media ia all one way, then it's still just single source learning. They all come using the same play book. Although I rarely agree with them, BBC and al Jazeera are two of my go-to sources. Der Spiegel is just kind of out there and blatantly put in a lot of "opine" in their stuff. Interesting to the sheep, there are at least two channels much further right than FoxNews. I rarely look at them, but they are interesting at times. Mexican free press is pretty interesting because you get the dirt on everything. And this coming from a pretty liberal news. But they're tired of finding people literally hung on bridges and left there. Or not be willing to open a beer cooler because many times there will be body parts (minus thighs) cut up in them.

    SO. just because you look at five sources doesn't mean they're "different."


  8. by islander on November 10, 2022 6:19 am

    "This is what you get when everything they learned is out of someone else's books.... and nothing from the real world. It shows as incredible naivete."

    LoL !!!

    Coming from a very conservative Republican family I'd have to say this to Hate and od, you two could be poster boys representing the typical Republican mindset !

    😀 Smiley said that will probably go right over your heads !!!



  9. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 6:37 am

    As a libertarian/conservative, who has a 100% awareness of what he thinks and believes, pb suggests that you don't understand libertarians and conservatives as comprehensively as you think you do.


  10. by Donna on November 10, 2022 8:31 am

    I think Jeanine Pirro has it right. LOL! That's something you won't here me say often.

    "...Fox News‘ “Judge” Jeanine Pirro openly admitted she was stunned that voters didn’t vote on issues Fox News has been promoting to attack the left: the economy, inflation, and crime.

    “I think what, what is, what is really disturbing, though, is the fact that most of the country thinks we’re headed in the wrong direction and the fact – 75 percent, some said 80% – and yet, so many people voted on issues that weren’t the issues we thought they were voting on,” Pirro said on “The Five.”

    “We thought it was all about the economy, inflation, and crime,” she continued, listing the issues Fox News has been pushing for months.

    “But,” she realized, “it was a lot about abortion. It was a lot about the threat to democracy.

    As Washington Post columnist Monica Hesse last month noted, as have many, many others, “abortion access is an economic issue.”


    alternet.org


  11. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 9:33 am
    Of course, those were lies the dims and media agreed on to sell the election.

    Remember, "we won't have a democracy if the GOP gets elected! They'll riot in the streets if they don't get their way!. bullshtbullshtbullsht. Like I said before, only the most stupid among us fell for it. That's why the Cubans in Miami-Dade voted FOR the GOP.


  12. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 10:23 am
    "Coming from a very conservative Republican family I'd have to say this to Hate and od, you two could be poster boys representing the typical Republican mindset !"

    They don't let you out much, do they... And Republican doesn't necessarily mean conservative. Or visaversa.

    Lead and I are pretty close but like everyone we have differences. He may even agree on all of these. The Idea is that we don't look at differences. We're more than willing to disagree and work for a common good.

    As a conservative libertarian, I believe in SMALL GOVERNMENT. and LIMITED GOVERNMENT (IAW the US Constitution)
    This means: things that private enterprise cannot do on their own. The government is bound to have a military. The power grid (not the individual companies). National Highway system. Protect our border. Reinforce public safety. Period.

    The Second Amendment is the only amendment that says the words "SHALL NO be infringed."

    Keep spending down to avoid inflation.

    Keep the markets open and market based.

    For me, I also modify my thoughts, because I believe that's normal if you actually don't regurgitate a "view."
    I like the idea of using Community Colleges for tech jobs. Auto repair, Masonry, Electrical, Plumbing, dental, medical, optometry techs. I also think these colleges should have day care for the students, especially single parent families. They could actually train and certify childcare workers from "sitters" to established certified day cares.

    Oddly, both Lead and I are pro- Ukraine. I think we need to support them better than we did the Kurds and Hmong. All of these folks were willing to fight for their own lands and families. Not cower in the face of threats. We need to support that. I only did five combat tours, and some time in "other Places," but I'm supporting people that actually want to fight.

    I think immigrants are a needed piece of the American experience. It just has to be legal.
    Curt has made the accusation twice that I hate immigrants. Which is pretty interesting. I am a 2nd generation American. My daughter-in-law is a zero-Gen American whom I was honored to watch get sworn in as a US Citizen. My children are 1/2 Hispanic from two families in New Mexico that were part of the Spanish Conquistadores in the 16th century.

    So to say that we're run of the mill "Republicans" is simplistic and stupid.


  13. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 10:27 am
    This was all about the dim lies and untruths. Scare tactics for the terminally stupid.


  14. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 11:13 am

    Good for you, Donna. I didn't know you watch THE FIVE.

    Who's your fave? OD and pb like Dana.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 11:24 am

    OD,

    You and I agree about a surprising amount considering the vast diversity and inclusiveness of GOPs today.

    One reality I've heard from both sides of news commentators is that, if the GOPs hold 223-ish seats in the House, Kevin McCarthy is going to find it impossible to keep the troops in line because GOPs tend to think for themselves, and won't yield to party authority like Dems did to Nancy.

    To be fair to isle, I think he has GOPs in his family and he assumes that, like Dems like isle, we all turn off our brain and let party leaders tell us what to think and what to do.

    It ain't like that in GOP land.


  16. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 12:03 pm
    Okay. I can deal with that. I just know so many diverse conservatives. Several won't vote for Trump at all. They'll go Libertarian instead.

    It is interesting when you hear the same talking points verbatum on the site, and then from the administration. and then from the media all in a span of 12 hours or so. That is the dims at their finest. Parrot the talking points even though you don't know what they mean and what the lie is.

    I still wonder, had the GOP taken both houses, how would we destroy the democracy? Honestly, if anyone can come up with a logical answer, I'm all ears. Please, if it involves majik or dungeons and dragon scenarios, I don't want to hear that. Something of this earth would be good.


  17. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 12:09 pm
    "This is what you get when everything they learned is out of someone else's books.... and nothing from the real world. It shows as incredible naivete."

    Dude. You have four sources and they all agree with each other. You're a novice. You don't have the ability to but facts together in any sort of a logical order. "terry" said this, and "tom" said that, and "Dick" said the same thing because they all learned from the same trash heap.


  18. by Donna on November 10, 2022 12:41 pm

    I still wonder, had the GOP taken both houses, how would we destroy the democracy?

    "...But occasionally there are midterms whose stakes rise beyond whether or not the president’s party will be able to pass new laws, and instead concern the whole future of the American republic. This year is one of them.

    That’s because this year, the majority of Republican candidates running for Congress, governor’s mansions, and other key statewide offices have denied or questioned the results of the 2020 presidential election. Donald Trump’s attempted coup failed in 2020 because officeholders at the federal and state level refused to go along with it. This year’s midterm elections could change all of that, producing a set of Republican officials willing to extinguish American democracy...

    The problems can be expected to start this November, when Republican candidates who lose will question the validity of the results and try to stir unrest. State officials who do win will begin to act on their plans to sabotage future polls by centralizing power in their own offices, de-registering millions of voters, and moving to error-prone hand-counting systems. Then, if voter suppression doesn’t prevent a Democratic win in 2024, they’ll just suppress the evidence instead and announce that they are sending Republican electors to the electoral college. Meanwhile, the majority of Republican House candidates in 2022 are election-deniers, and a Republican-controlled Congress might attempt to sabotage the certification of the presidential vote on 6 January 2025.

    theguardian.com


  19. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 12:52 pm

    Donald Trump’s attempted coup failed in 2020...

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

    The evidence PROVES that you are paranoid and deluded.


  20. by islander on November 10, 2022 2:47 pm

    LoL !!! Looks like Hate and od are beginning to talk like liberals (or at least trying to) in order to distance themselves from the conservative Republicans who thought that by dancing with the devil they could get what they wanted!
    I've noticed a lot of them are doing that now! Some of the staunchest Trump voters and enablers that I come in contact with are now claiming they've always hated and despised "Trump" the leader of the GOP! I think they re going to throw him under the bus now...which would be a fitting end for him.

    They'd be better off repenting and just acknowledge that they recognize their grave errors, drop the hate language, and just admit that Trump has severe psychological problems and that he's has done a tremendous amount of damage to the former Republican party, and from now on they will work to make the Grand Old Party what it once was back in the old days.


  21. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2022 2:54 pm

    pb noted, back in 016, that he hurled when he voted for Trump. Nuthin new from pb.

    OD, as far as I know, only voted for Trump to save America from Hillary...and "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap."

    I doubt that you know well any Trump voters...or have serious conversations with them.


  22. by oldedude on November 10, 2022 7:40 pm
    спаси́бо.
    Yes, correct. да. (th)da

    dims are more interested in an empty glass of water to vote than someone that is a human being. I got that. it's where we are right now. I pray that changes. and will work for that.


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