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There ya go, Donna...Trump sues CNN claiming defamation, seeks $475 million in punitive damages
By HatetheSwamp
October 3, 2022 5:35 pm
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You can stop taunting me, Donna, for suggesting that Trump was sincere in saying that he'd file the suit.

I still believe that the unprecedented raid on Melania's boudoir and Barron's bedroom diverted him for a while...

...he's not to be daunted.

So there!

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Comments on "There ya go, Donna...Trump sues CNN claiming defamation, seeks $475 million in punitive damages":

  1. by Curt_Anderson on October 3, 2022 10:14 pm
    HtS,
    Donna didn't predict that Trump wouldn't sue CNN. She predicted that he would be unsuccessful with his lawsuit against CNN. I made the same prediction.

    You on the other hand predicted that Trump will be able to prove his case. I still say he won't win his lawsuit against CNN.

    I suspect that this is another ploy to bilk his gullible supporters out of more donations "to fight the liberal media".
    selectsmart.com

  2. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 4:33 am

    Thanks, Curt, for finding and linking to that thread. It proved my assertion. Up to the end, Donna was taunting pb about when OrangeMan would file his suit. Well, now he has!

    And, you didn't understand that, in a civil suit, the plaintiff's filing defines the issue.

    One twist since we posted all that: pb went through a time in which he bought into you progressives' sanctimony that Trump's lawyers are inept twits...until they won the Special Master issue, which the fascists in the DOJ promised to appeal but didn't.

    At first, as I said, I thought his lawyers would prove his case. Then, I doubted. Now? Now, I think that, either CNN will settle or Trump will expose it for its brainless TDS statements, which all y'all are truth. Either way, Trump gets to make his case. Winning, I don't think, is what's important.

    There are legal nuances about a public figure proving defamation against a free press...BTW, I suspect that, suddenly, you'll be a proponent of the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment...bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

    But, Trump will make his case... to the electorate...

    ...and, he'll be making it as the 024 campaign gears up.

    Clever. Eh!!!!!?

  3. by Donna on October 4, 2022 7:03 am

    "Donna didn't predict that Trump wouldn't sue CNN. She predicted that he would be unsuccessful with his lawsuit against CNN. I made the same prediction." - Curt

    Actually I predicted that he wouldn't sue CNN.

    Now I'm predicting that his lawsuit will fail.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 7:18 am

    Touché.

    Fail?

    I'm not certain about that? Will CNN have to fork out $475 million? Of course not.

    But, pb's thinking that filing four weeks before the 022 election may have been the plan all along. It gave your ilk time to mock Trump for not filing it and,...

    It will be news after the 022 results stories fade...and, for quite some time.

    That will be propaganda gold for OrangeMan, aint?

  5. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 11:52 am
    HtS,
    Reportedly, Trump's lawsuit cites an interview with Linda Ronstadt in which she apparently likened Trump's presidency to Nazi Germany.

    Trump may be able to define the issues, but he still has to prove the statements on CNN were presented as fact, that they are false and that it was done with malice. Ronstadt was clearly expressing an opinion. It's not like CNN flashed on the screen "Breaking News: Trump is Hitler".

    The most probable outcome of Trump’s legal challenge is that it will be thrown out once CNN filed a motion to dismiss the suit. If the case goes to trial, both sides would be able to request evidence from each other to discuss the degree of truth behind CNN’s statements. As I said in the subject line of the thread I linked to above, "We may finally find out if Trump actually has evidence of fraud in the 2020 election".

  6. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 11:57 am

    Curt,

    Are you still suggesting that there's no evidence of fraud in the 020 election? Even after Dem operatives have pleaded guilty to felony charges for doing just that?

    Of course, he has evidence.

    Can he prove that the election was stolen? No.

  7. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 12:15 pm
    HtS,
    What "Dem operatives have pleaded guilty to felony charges"? Are you referring to the isolated cases in which people cast illegal votes for dead mothers, et cetera? There are as many or more examples of Republicans casting illegal votes.

    He needs to prove more than a few isolated examples of illegal or miscounted votes. No intelligent person believes that any presidential election is ever devoid of any fraudulent votes. But that doesn't make the entire election a fraud. Trump has been saying since the last election, he is the actual winner: "This is a fraud on the American public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election."

  8. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 12:29 pm

    Curt,

    It's fascinating that you seem not to recall the many posts here that reveal Dem guilt of 020 fraud.

    OD posted ANOTHER one from Pennsylvania last week.

    There's tons of evidence that there was fraud in 020. Your pretending it didn't happen, I'm sure, gives you some sort of comfort when evidence of the Former Truck Driver's failures increase.

    I've listened to the rally speeches when Trump details pieces of the proof. Almost no one is aware of it. They will be when testimony begins.

  9. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 12:45 pm
    I don't remember the specifics of the election fraud in Pennsylvania that OD cited. What were the details? Whatever it was, it didn't change the results of the 2020 election which is what we are discussing.

  10. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 12:57 pm

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh, Curt. Maybe you should look into dementia testing!

    "Former Democratic Rep. Michael J. “Ozzie” Myers, of Philadelphia, was sentenced to 2½ years after he admitted he worked with election officials to pad the vote tallies of his political consulting clients."

    This one of MANY reports. From NBC. I don't recall if this was what OD cited. Myers' case illustrates the deep seated culture of corruption in Philadelphia that went BONKERS in 020.


    nbcnews.com

  11. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 1:36 pm
    That's what I thought. Representative Ozzie Myers was convicted of interfering with the 2018 election and elections prior to that. Not 2020.

  12. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 1:50 pm

    Did you notice that his first conviction for political corruption was 40 years ago...and that he continued to thrive in the Philadelphia political culture?

    He's typical. A perfect picture of what it means to be a Democrat Pennsylvania operative...practicing ballot stuffing for decades!

    Anyway, Trump doesn't cite this guy as evidence that that Dems swiped the 020 election.

    But, the point is that you didn't recall OD citing his case.

  13. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 2:13 pm
    Oh I remembered what OD wrote about. I just wanted you to confirm particulars. In Myer's case he attempted to influence elections in the years 2018 and before. It has nothing to do with the 2020 election.

    This is an example of what I wrote about yesterday, namely your tendency to dredge up past history in an attempt to apply it to current situations. What Myers did had nothing to do with the 2020 election, in fact his interest was solely in local elections and he never attempted to influence any presidential election.

    This doesn't say much for your ''evidence'' of voter fraud in the 2020 election if the best you can come up with is something that happened 4 years ago.

  14. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 2:23 pm

    C'mon man, gimme a break. Because I connect Dem cheating in 020 to their history of nearly two centuries, I'm wrong?

    Because I point out that FBI intrusion into individual liberty, being practiced today, extends back to the 1950s, the fibbies didn't practice an unprecedented invasion of the current President’s chief rival in the next election...only to raid the former First Lady's boudoir?

    Because I connect the present to the past, the truth I present ain't truth?

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

    I'm beginning to understand how you can't see dementia in President Clouseau.

  15. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 3:16 pm
    I won't reargue the points I already made. As I explained, past allegations and even convictions are not evidence of and have no relevance to later unrelated cases.

    Do you realize how ridiculous your notion that "boudoirs" are off limits to search warrants is? If that were true, then any suspected criminal would hide the evidence of their crimes in their wife/girlfriend's underwear drawers.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 3:35 pm

    I don't argue that a boudoir is off limits in a search, only that it's evidence of the sort of intimidation common in fascist states.

    Since members of the federal government's investative bureau carried out a search of the current President’s chief rival's private residence, on the orders of the current President’s Justice Ministry, "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" resembles, very closely, the leader of any corrupt banana republic.

    And, you're comfortable with that...and unabashedly support it,...to your shame.

  17. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 3:53 pm
    I am comfortable with Merrick Garland's assertion that nobody, including the wealthy and politically powerful, are beyond the law.

    Let's see what the Supreme Court says in response to Trump's latest request that they intervene in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case.
    abcnews.go.com

  18. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 4:03 pm

    What the Supreme Court does will be interesting.

    The fact is that no sitting President’s Justice Ministry and federal law enforcement agency has been this obnoxious toward his political foe says something about the fragility of republic with a tyrant like Joe Biden in the White House.

    To me, though, what's scary is that people like you are cheering him on.

  19. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 4:03 pm
    Btw, why do you keep referring to Melania's "boudoir"? Do you have reason to believe that Trump and his wife don't sleep together and have separate bedrooms?

  20. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 4:15 pm

    How the heck would I know. It's been reported that the thugs spent a suspicious amount of time in Melania's bedroom.

    I refer to Melania's boudoir because the federales invaded her private space.

    And, interestingly, as much as the FBI and DOJ have been leaking to make their case to people like you, there's been nuthin to justify that intrusion...and no suggestion that OrangeMan was hiding anything in her private space.

  21. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 4:39 pm
    "and no suggestion that OrangeMan was hiding anything in her private space." --HtS

    That's disgusting!

  22. by HatetheSwamp on October 4, 2022 5:07 pm

    Huh?

  23. by oldedude on October 4, 2022 8:28 pm
    Sorry, I'm going to jump in on curt's BS.

    These are COURT RECORDS. You need to argue that the court is lying about the dates (by years) things happened. He was FOUND GUILTY then. I'm really sorry, but please pull your head out. This has been going on for 40 years, and you still defend it. I find that horrible at best. I find that you are supporting political thugs that run the numbers in state and national elections.

  24. by Curt_Anderson on October 4, 2022 9:52 pm
    OD,
    I don't dispute that Ozzie Myers was found guilty in COURT. But his crimes dated 2018 and before. HtS used that case as "evidence" that there was sufficient fraud in the 2020 election, HtS has said that it unfairly denied Trump a second term, which is a claim he's been making since November 2020.

    Nobody seriously denies that not all of 155 million votes cast were legitimate or properly counted. But the relatively small number of illegal votes and discrepancies did not change the results of the presidential election.

    But let's not prejudge what Trump and his lawyers might prove in his lawsuit against CNN. If he doesn't prove that he won the election then election deniers might want to reconsider their beliefs.

  25. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 3:53 am

    Nobody seriously denies that not all of 155 million votes cast were legitimate or properly counted. But the relatively small number of illegal votes and discrepancies did not change the results of the presidential election.

    Oh, bahahahahahahahahahaha! Way to go, Curt! To quote you?

    "Now we're getting somewhere."

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha!

    No one cares about votes in California or New York or Chicago...or Mississippi. What's under scrutiny are the votes in a handful of purple states...and BLUE, historically corrupt, cities.

    You've acknowledged that Ozzie Myers thrived as a Dem operative in Philadelphia for four freakin decades. Are you silly enough to suggest that you believe that the ballot stuffing Myers was doing...since the days of Jimmy Carter...through 018, didn't take place with others in 020!!!!!?

    C'mon man! Say it ain't so, Joe.

    Cheating. Election fraud...is in the DNA of the DNC!

    Drop your Good German gig. Be honest. Be a man!

  26. by Curt_Anderson on October 5, 2022 8:56 am
    HTS, when Myers was still impacting election outcomes in 2016 Pennsylvania voted for Trump. When he was not impacting votes in 2020 Pennsylvania voted for Biden.


  27. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 9:24 am

    Exactly.

    I remember, on election night in 016, former Pennsylvania Governor and, Philadelphia Mayor, Ed Rendell, in the course of late evening EST interview, I think with NBC, slipped and said, literally, in reference to the vote in Philadelphia, "I think the machine will come up with enough votes." Literally! Really!

    Rendell's health, we know now, was beginning to crumble. Later on, he announced that he has Parkinson's. His mind was slipping...

    ...and he said the quiet part out loud. Dem ballot stuffing has been going on in Philly for generations. Only you, apparently, don't know that.

    Is it fun being a Good German?

  28. by Curt_Anderson on October 5, 2022 9:43 am
    A political machine (sometimes called just machine in politics) is a political organization in which a person or small group with authority that has enough votes or is popular enough to have control over political administration or any type of government in a city, county, or state.

    Political machines become effective because they are responsive to their constituents. The ultimate way to retain political power is to be popular.

  29. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 9:51 am

    Curt,

    Bahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

  30. by Donna on October 5, 2022 1:43 pm

    So there's a physical "machine" that can "come up with enough votes"? ROFL!

    Both parties engage in that kind of lying - when you quote someone out of context and insert your own meaning. There are plenty of idiots on both sides of the political spectrum who fall for that kind of stuff. To the point, there are lots of stupid Americans. That's why both parties do it. They probably employ full-time staffers who's sole job is to scour the internet looking for quotes they can distort.

    From Philadelphia Magazine:

    Is Rendell trolling the local Democratic Party? Or, to put it in less clickbait-y terms, is he trying to push for change in the party? What’s going on?

    Probably a few things. One, Rendell isn’t in office anymore, so he doesn’t have to worry too much about upsetting the city’s Democratic machine...     [emphasis mine]

    phillymag.com

  31. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 2:45 pm

    Donna,

    The Tammany Hall MACHINE? Does anyone deny it engineered election fraud?

    The Richard Daley Chicagoland machine? Does ANYONE, with a brain, deny it engineered election fraud? Remember, "Vote early and vote often?"

    Of course Dem political machines engineer election fraud. The Philly machine is notorious!

    As for Philly Mag? Another source of High Disinformation. Why can't you search for objectivity? And, enlighten yourself with truth?
    cs.hmc.edu

  32. by Donna on October 5, 2022 3:18 pm

    It took a Democrat, FDR, to kill Tammany Hall.



  33. by Curt_Anderson on October 5, 2022 3:25 pm
    Donna,
    That's correct. Tammany had a moribund existence into the 1950's and early sixties, but it was dead for all intents and purposes when FDR left the influence of Al Smith.

  34. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 4:00 pm

    The truth, that no honest person can deny, is that electoral fraud has always been essential to the identity of the Dem party.

    Specifically, as the fact that Ozzie Myers fit so snuggly in the Philadelphia Dem party for so long...and still would except he was busted...proves, the Philadelphia Dem party is a hotbed of political corruption spawning electoral fraud

  35. by Curt_Anderson on October 5, 2022 4:13 pm
    HtS,
    Ozzie Myers was investigated and prosecuted by the FBI and the DOJ, two agencies that you repeatedly tell us are dishonest and corrupt. Should we all withhold judgment of Myers despite his conviction?
    justice.gov

  36. by HatetheSwamp on October 5, 2022 4:15 pm

    Judge not, lest ye be judged.

    The Ozzie Myers story is about the Philadelphia Dem political culture.

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